Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-19 Thread S. Artesian
27;s blood. - Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Apling" To: "David Schanoes" Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography > Lou is showing rather a isolationist view of WWII here, without any > ___

Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-19 Thread Gary MacLennan
I suppose it must be my age showing but have a fascination with this topic I must confess and it is good to see Paddy take a part in the thread. WW2 is a complex phenomenon and it is unfortunate that Trotsky did not live long enough to make a definitive contribution to its analysis. I am away fro

Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-19 Thread Politicus E.
Paddy Apling wrote: "Bringing the Bengal famine into the argument is a red herring. British communists - and indeed the working class movement in Britain generally, were active throughout the war - and before - in promoting the anti-colonial struggle; but all direct contact with Marxists in India w

Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-19 Thread Shane Mage
On Sep 19, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Paddy Apling wrote: > > ...From then [June 22, 1941] on there could be no doubt that WWII > was a just war, a war of > liberation against fascism - and anyone who now seeks to dispute > that is > effectively a "holocaust denier". > Anyone who claims that the firest

Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-19 Thread Paddy Apling
jected by the electorate, is another story Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com - Original Message - From: "Louis Proyect" To: Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography > Paul Flewers wrote: >> The Second

Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-18 Thread Louis Proyect
Paul Flewers wrote: > The Second World War was the last time that Britain played anything like a > major role on a world scale, and I guess that the endless commemorating of > it here is at least in part an unconscious recognition of this. After more furniture busting than has been seen since the

Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-18 Thread Paul Flewers
Re Lou P's query: I ought to know more about this, but from what I know the British revisionist historians tend to be right-wingers who feel that Churchill's line brought Britain unnecessarily into a war with Germany, and as a result lost its Empire. They feel that Britain could have stayed out of

[Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-09 Thread Louis Proyect
Andy Newman, the Socialist Unity blogger, has posted a number of articles recently that can best be described as pro-WWII, for lack of a better term. In other words, it is the classic CP position even though Newman has not exactly been associated with the CP. One article is distinctly odd. Fest