SV: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-05 Thread Bob Malecki
Rob writes! > [People want peace and security. The global order sells itself in precisely > those terms. And proves itself a liar at every turn. It's an enlightening, > if painful, process. 'Legitimation crisis', Habermas called it. Some doors > have been slammed shut - but others open - we

SV: SV: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-05 Thread Bob Malecki
The information that Jim provides is certainly one aspect of this, And it should be taken into consideration. Another aspect is what Europe and foremost Germany are going to do with the Eastern Europe economies. The Irish found a nitch in accepting foreign capital and low taxes --sort of a Bah

Re: SV: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-05 Thread Jim heartfield
In message <004e01bedf1f$2ae0ac20$0ef3143e@malecki>, Bob Malecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Well what is going on in Ireland has more to do with its entry into the common >market which for Ireland was in fact a positive thing in raising the welfare of >the entire nation over the short term --b

M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-05 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Bob, You write: >Well, who would not oppose and end to the killing! But to compare this to that this leadership is dedicated to a genuine struggle towards socialism is fairly mind boggling. And in fact in regards to the killing only has for a short time perhaps reduced it. And even if succ

SV: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-05 Thread Bob Malecki
John wrote! > Comrades, > > In my opinion as someone from Britain, the Republican movement though > now far from it revolutionary arder of previous years is still the > legitimate voice of the national liberation struggle against British > Imperialism. It might not have the aims we might like

SV: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-05 Thread Bob Malecki
Rob in reply to John.. > G'day John, > > Maybe my memory plays me false, but I thought so vast a majority of the > combined Irish population wanted an end to the killing that any notion of a > genuinely socialist armed struggle in the here and now is untenable. Well, who would not oppose and e

Re: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-04 Thread Jim heartfield
I agree with some of what Rob says, re. the false counterposition of armed struggle to 'peace process' sell-out. It would be nonsensical to demand that the republicans fight on regardless of the real isolation of their movement. Worse, it would be obscene from the comfort of a country not occupie

Re: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-04 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day John, Maybe my memory plays me false, but I thought so vast a majority of the combined Irish population wanted an end to the killing that any notion of a genuinely socialist armed struggle in the here and now is untenable. Some here would argue that different leaders than MacGuinness and A

M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-04 Thread J.WALKER, ILL
Comrades, In my opinion as someone from Britain, the Republican movement though now far from it revolutionary arder of previous years is still the legitimate voice of the national liberation struggle against British Imperialism. It might not have the aims we might like, it may have made compr