Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Kant & "Serious Marxism" (Was & Bhaskar)

2006-05-25 Thread andie nachgeborenen
> > I suspect that when people argue that Marxism is > incompatible with Kantianism they have in mind > such people as Eduard Bernstein or Nicolas Berdyaev > who started out as Marxists but who over time > drifted > away from Marxism. So the Bolsheviks said about Bernstein, but why think they had

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Kant & "Serious Marxism" (Was & Bhaskar)

2006-05-25 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Thu, 25 May 2006 13:49:17 -0700 (PDT) andie nachgeborenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > --- Paddy Hackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Paddy Hackett: I dont see how any serious marxist > > can forge an argument by > > using Kant's categorical imperative. > > It's talk like this th

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Kant & Bhaskar

2006-05-25 Thread Paddy Hackett
It is just an idea. I could just as easily say the idea of humans as not ends in themselves. Paddy Hackett - Original Message - From: "Charles Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Forum for the discussion of theoretical issues raised by Karl Marx andthe thinkers he inspired'" Sent: Thursd

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Kant & "Serious Marxism" (Was & Bhaskar)

2006-05-25 Thread andie nachgeborenen
--- Paddy Hackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paddy Hackett: I dont see how any serious marxist > can forge an argument by > using Kant's categorical imperative. It's talk like this that helped persaude mt that the term "Marxist" is merely an impediment to clear thinking and socialist practic

[Marxism-Thaxis] Kant & Bhaskar

2006-05-25 Thread Charles Brown
That's somebody else whose writing on Kant's categorical imperative. Is the idea of humans as ends in themselves alien to Marxism ? What is the idealist error in that. Charles Paddy Hackett: I dont see how any serious marxist can forge an argument by using Kant's categorical imperative. Charle

[Marxism-Thaxis] Brown and philosophy

2006-05-25 Thread Charles Brown
Paddy: That was written by the people named in the post. You are going to have them charging me with plagerism. A materialist categorical imperative would be to save the world from capitalism. Charles ^^ Paddy Hackett Charles Brown ( posting something somebody else wrote): Moreover, the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Brown and philosophy

2006-05-25 Thread Paddy Hackett
Charles Brown: Moreover, the moral injunction of the categorical imperative, namely "act only on that maxim through which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law". Paddy Hackett: I cannot see how the struggle for the abolition of wages through the struggle for real inc

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Kant & Bhaskar

2006-05-25 Thread Paddy Hackett
Paddy Hackett: I dont see how any serious marxist can forge an argument by using Kant's categorical imperative. Charles Brown: I am presently preparing/reworking the chapter in which I put forward my case for egalitarianism (my thesis is a critique of the New Classical Model and Liberal Capitali

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein responds to Ralph

2006-05-25 Thread dogangoecmen
Charles, I agree with you entirely. After Gramsci's profound critique of Bucharin's mechanist approach to dialectics, Bucharin's works must be read very carefully and only for historical reasons rather than to understand what dialectics are about. Dogan -Original Message- From:

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein responds to Ralph

2006-05-25 Thread Charles Brown
Rosa cites Bukharin as giving the best summary of Dialectical Marxism. Ironically, at one point Lenin called Bukharin the Party's favorite , but criticized him for lack of dialectics in his work. I guess it makes sense that if Rosa is a critic of dialectics ,a weak dialectician would be the best a