Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Agamben - Coming Community vs. Negri & Hardt - (Coming?) Commonwealth

2010-03-15 Thread CeJ
I'm not sure how generous Zizek is with Islam--or how deep his understanding. The Islam, Christianity and Judaism that we have to deal with in this world all developed in the Middle Ages. C and J largely 'deterritorialized' to Europe--C. to both W. and E. Europe. J. largely to E. Europe, in terms o

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Agamben - Coming Community vs. Negri & Hardt - (Coming?) Commonwealth

2010-03-15 Thread Ralph Dumain
h the dynamics of contemporary capitalism, the opposition between rigid State control and carnivalesque liberation is no longer functional. " -Original Message- >From: CeJ >Sent: Mar 15, 2010 6:03 AM >To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu >Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Agam

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Agamben - Coming Community vs. Negri & Hardt - (Coming?) Commonwealth

2010-03-15 Thread CeJ
Deterritorialization The concept appears to have been deterritorialized! But even without proper reference, I believe Negri and Hardt were using the terms as derived from D&G's concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deterritorialization Deterritorialization is a concept created by Gilles Deleuze

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Agamben - Coming Community vs. Negri & Hardt - (Coming?) Commonwealth

2010-03-15 Thread CeJ
And Zizek is in the midst of all this too. I don't think the Z man answers the question about 'deterritorialization', but it seems to me to be a concept borrowed from Deleuze and Guattari. I do agree with him on some points, and then find him maddeningly reactionary on others. But the dude is popul

[Marxism-Thaxis] Agamben - Coming Community vs. Negri & Hardt - (Coming?) Commonwealth

2010-03-15 Thread CeJ
What makes me think these two jokers (Negri and Hardt) went back to 1993 in order to find sufficient inspiration to finish off their 3-book contract with Harvard Univ. Press? Their sustained line of thought and argument is now FINISHED. Onwards to the commonwealth. Pres. Obama is the messiah. The