Ralph D.:
Most of this is prototypical fascist garbage that only a French or Yale
philosopher could love. But the picture regarding the Jew is unclear.
Nietzsche clearly indicts the Jews as a defeated people who in revenge
inflicted Xianity on the noble Romans and the rest of the world.
CB
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These anti-Nietzsche remarks are childish. As I have
said there is a lot in to criticize, also to learn
from, but this Nietzsche the inspirer of Nazis and
racists is just stupid, I mean, idiotic, and I m not
using this in the Ralph Dumain "I'm pissed" sense,
it's really dumb a
Jim Farmelant
We also shouldn't ignore the fact that during the
twentieth century, Nietzsche had widespread
appeal to lots of leftist intellectuals, starting
with such folk as Lunacharsky, Bogdanov,
Trotsky and a number of other Bolsheviks,
was a major influence on the young Lukacs,
and was gr
> Jim Farmelant
Nietzsche's Bolshevik admirers were attracted to
his ideal of the Overman. However, whereas
Nietzsche saw this ideal as realizable only
by a select few, the Bolshevik Nietzscheans
argued that it would be realizable by the
many in a communist society. Leftwing
Nietzscheans have
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I am bored with this discussion.
^
Yawn
^^^
Charles' argument is
a tedious fallacy:
CB: As opposed to an exciting fallacy.
^^
Nietzsche's ideas appealed to reactionary
petty-bourgeois snobs and fading aristocrats;
Some of the members of those groups were at
Ralph Dumain :
Nietzsche's genealogy of morals has contributed about as much to historical
materialism as my left testicle. (Maybe I should rethink this last
part.) Again, consult my piece:
The Owl of Minerva: The Evolution of German Ideology Critique and Social
Theory from Hegel to Nietz
Most of this is prototypical fascist garbage that only a French or Yale
philosopher could love. But the picture regarding the Jew is unclear.
Nietzsche clearly indicts the Jews as a defeated people who in revenge
inflicted Xianity on the noble Romans and the rest of the world.
It's not clear
These anti-Nietzsche remarks are childish. As I have
said there is a lot in to criticize, also to learn
from, but this Nietzsche the inspirer of Nazis and
racists is just stupid, I mean, idiotic, and I m not
using this in the Ralph Dumain "I'm pissed" sense,
it's really dumb and uninformed. This cr
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> These anti-Nietzsche remarks are childish. As I have
> said there is a lot in to criticize, also to learn
> from, but this Nietzsche the inspirer of Nazis and
> racists is just stupid, I mean, idiotic, and
This is all a load of shit, but first, I could use some specific references
for Carnap's evaluation of Nietszsche. I've seen stray references to
Nietzsche, but no sustained commentary.
BTW, I don't think Trotsky's 1900 essay on Nietzsche was translated into
English, unless it's happened over
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From: Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Perhaps your recent career change will help you regain what's left of your
mind. Or maybe finish it off once and for all. Anyway, your final
paragraph undoes your harangue. It's not clear that we factually disagree
about anything.
The disagreement seems to center around your objection to th
It's not. I'm pretty sure I read it when I last took this book out of the
library, but apparently my retention leaves something to be desired. I
remember some remarks about Nietzsche and metaphysics as bad poetry, but
very little.
This reminds me that I need to acquire this book:
Friedman,
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:09:01 -0400 "Charles Brown"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> Jim Farmelant
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> We also shouldn't ignore the fact that during the
> twentieth century, Nietzsche had widespread
> appeal to lots of leftist intellectuals, starting
> with such folk as Lunacharsky, Bogdan
I am not a philosopher, but would like to comment the following remarks:
But Hitler never read or (I believe) refers to N, most
of the Nazis were not smart or literary enough to
bother. His appeal among the German upper classes was
to conservative aristocrats who despised Hitler as a
I am bored with this discussion. Charles' argument is
a tedious fallacy:
Nietzsche's ideas appealed to reactionary
petty-bourgeois snobs and fading aristocrats;
Some of the members of those groups were attracted to
Nazism
So Nietzsche is the intellectual godfather of Nazism
Childish. Charles, las
Nietzsche's genealogy of morals has contributed about as much to historical
materialism as my left testicle. (Maybe I should rethink this last
part.) Again, consult my piece:
The Owl of Minerva: The Evolution of German Ideology Critique and Social
Theory from Hegel to Nietzsche: A Sketch
h
Some short answers for misunderstandings:
N is not a racist, despite his talk of races. He
doesn't, e.g., think that whites are superior to
blacks because of "blood" or "race" or a lot of the
common 19th C & subsequent lies. He's such an elitist
that he thinks that most Europeans are pretty infer
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Some short answers for misunderstandings:
^
CB: I can believe that there are some misunderstandings of N., however, his
discussion is so , I don't know, "fractured", "spacy", that it is inherently
misunderstandable.
Secondly, it is still not clear that there is "any th
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