Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Dayne Goodwin
I notice that many young socialists around here (intermountain west) get involved with the SRA's as an unromantic practical matter of course. The SRA's seem to function as a united socialist front with people from M-L's to DSAers to anarchists working together. I agree that revolutionary socialis

[marxmail] The Campus Underground Press | JSTOR Daily

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
The 1960s and 70s were a time of activism in the U.S., and therefore a fertile time for campus newspapers and the alternative press. https://daily.jstor.org/community-collections-campus-underground-newspapers/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this grou

Re: [marxmail] The left as enablers of violent misogyny

2021-01-08 Thread Andrew Stewart
Useful article quote https://www.thecut.com/article/who-did-j-k-rowling-become.html In the U.S., right-wing supporters of “bathroom bills” have long conjured the specter of a male predator in the ladies’ room. Yet there’s an element of psychological reality to an argument like Rowling’s that ma

[marxmail] Sweden Covid-19: Plan to Use New Lockdown Law Soon, PM Says - Bloomberg

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
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Re: [marxmail] Twitter bans President Trump's account - CNN

2021-01-08 Thread judeanpeoplesfront via groups.io
And other tech giants are lining up with incredible swiftness. Perhaps with Trump out the door and a Democratic Senate, they're less worried about being hauled before Congress for charges of "anti-conservative bias." Here's a rundown from The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2

Re: [marxmail] The Washington Riot Was a Defeat for the Far Right, Not a Triumph

2021-01-08 Thread fkalosar101
IMO If the Biden government does not regain the legitimacy that has been drained out of the political system for decades, liberal democracy in the US may fail. I think that turnaround is a tall order to say the least.  I don't believe the ruling class has the agency to just snap its fingers and

Re: [marxmail] The left as enablers of violent misogyny

2021-01-08 Thread FredrickMullins
Marxists should not consider themselves part of “the left”. That left no longer exists. The leftist today is the neoliberal snitch. They are the guardians of capital. Fredrick Mullins -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#5304

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Richard Modiano
We now have a new identifiable neo-fascist movement in the United States made up of the hard core of Trump supporters. He has given them a high profile, much more credibility than anyone else would give, and he has brought them through the membrane into the political mainstream. That does not me

Re: [marxmail] The Washington Riot Was a Defeat for the Far Right, Not a Triumph

2021-01-08 Thread Michael Meeropol
GOOD STRONG ARTICLE one interesting hopeful sign is the possible REAL split in the Republican Party -- It is my hope that any member of Congress who is on Trumps side will get primaried AND that if that Trumpist wins the primary, the "real" Republican should run as an independent in the elect

[marxmail] The Washington Riot Was a Defeat for the Far Right, Not a Triumph

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
The rise of German and Italian fascism in the twentieth century took place in the context of severe splits within the ruling classes of these societies. Dynamic new capitalist sectors, especially advanced manufacturing, could not find space within existing state institutions for the expression

Re: [marxmail] Twitter bans President Trump's account - CNN

2021-01-08 Thread FredrickMullins
Congress should have moved to regulate the social media companies. The Democrats certainly won’t do it. Fredrick Mullins -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#5300): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/5300 Mute This Topic: ht

[marxmail] Twitter bans President Trump's account - CNN

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/trump-twitter-ban/index.html -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#5299): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/5299 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/79537946/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & N

[marxmail] Finally, some good news

2021-01-08 Thread Alan Ginsberg
We can all breathe a sigh of relief. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/mary-miller-hitler-remarks-controversy.html Congresswoman Apologizes for Making an Approving Reference to Hitler ***

Re: [marxmail] US education secretary Betsy DeVos resigns, blaming Trump 'rhetoric' for violence | US news | The Guardian

2021-01-08 Thread wytheholt
She is also attempting (successfully, probably) to escape having to deal with the procedures under the 25th Amendment. Wythe > On January 8, 2021 at 8:06 AM Louis Proyect mailto:l...@panix.com > wrote: > > > Rats abandon a sinking ship. > > > https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/

Re: [marxmail] The left as enablers of violent misogyny

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
On 1/8/21 5:56 PM, Philip Ferguson wrote: https://rdln.wordpress.com/2019/11/06/the-leftists-enabling-violent-misogyny/ Thank goodness this alliance between socialists and JK Rowling only seems to exist in New Zeal

[marxmail] The left as enablers of violent misogyny

2021-01-08 Thread Philip Ferguson
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[marxmail] NY Times Opinion Video: Stop Pretending ‘This Is Not Who We Are’

2021-01-08 Thread Alan Ginsberg
In the wake of Wednesday’s insurrection, lawmakers have embraced one response: “This is not who we are.” But that’s not true at all. Guns, conspiracies, rampages: The video above argues that everything we saw that afternoon was exactly who we are — because it’s the product of who we’ve always be

[marxmail] West Virginia Lawmaker Who Filmed Self Storming Capitol To Face Charges | HuffPost

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
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Re: [marxmail] Largest global study of ‘long Covid’ finds many patients unable to return to work six months later

2021-01-08 Thread Roger Kulp
It is becoming recognized that COVID-19 produces a permenant disease, or disability in some patients,similar to ME/CFS, and COVID long haulers,are reaching out to the patients in this community, for support, and advice. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55369434 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
On 1/8/21 4:05 PM, Alan Ginsberg wrote: As their bylaws say, they don’t want to be seen as a “militia or anti-fascist action group.” I never heard of them. Clearly, they are not the kind of people I was referring to. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to

Re: [marxmail] How Progressive Democrats Almost Re-Elected Trump - CounterPunch.org

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
On 1/8/21 3:22 PM, Roger Kulp wrote: This is what Lenin ,and others, taught us */No, it's not./* It is what the PSL leaders learned from the people who learned from Sam Marcy's acolytes, like Deirdre Griswold. Sam learned his "Leninism" from James P. Cannon, who learned it in turn from Leon

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Alan Ginsberg
Re the armed leftist groups under discussion -- I am not knowledgeable about the various groups mentioned by Jeffrey Masko, and criticized by Louis Proyect. I think both may be conflating a variety of groups that need to be examined individually. All I know about the Socialist Rifle Association

Re: [marxmail] How Progressive Democrats Almost Re-Elected Trump - CounterPunch.org

2021-01-08 Thread Roger Kulp
Re: "Teamsters For Howie" When I was in the Green Party,my branch never did any outreach to union members ,but there are two union members in my branch of the PSL. One is a teacher, the other a carpenter. Both have worked as independent activists to recruit union members to the party, and have h

[marxmail] Dominion Voting Sues Former Trump Lawyer, Seeking More Than $1.3 Billion In Damages : NPR

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
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Re: [marxmail] The Journey of Ashli Babbitt - bellingcat

2021-01-08 Thread Michael Meeropol
I imagine the folks at BELLING CAT are loathe to do this, but it is essential that they share all videos from inside the Capitol with law enforcement --- There should be felony murder charges filed against Babbitt's fellow rioters --- she would not be dead if they had not participated with her in t

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
On 1/8/21 12:38 PM, Jeffrey Masko wrote: As for a link to trumpet yourself, I don't need to hear more about your exploits in the SWP. It makes for dreary reading when every one of your "posts" end up back with you at the front and center, no matter what the topic. Thanks, but no thanks. Yeah

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Jeffrey Masko
The precedent is vulnerable folks protecting themselves. I'm sure you're aware of the for Deacons for Defense and Justice and so on. Pure stupidity is dismissal of folks trying to protect themselves and preparing for the worst, but you've made the same silly arguments before so I'm not surprised at

[marxmail] H-Net Review [H-Environment]: Routledge on Cusack-McVeigh, 'Stories Find You, Places Know: Yup'ik Narratives of a Sentient World'

2021-01-08 Thread Andrew Stewart
Best regards, Andrew Stewart Begin forwarded message: > From: H-Net Staff via H-REVIEW > Date: January 8, 2021 at 12:09:44 PM EST > To: h-rev...@lists.h-net.org > Cc: H-Net Staff > Subject: H-Net Review [H-Environment]: Routledge on Cusack-McVeigh, 'Stories > Find You, Places Know: Yup'ik N

[marxmail] I.F. Stone Question

2021-01-08 Thread FredrickMullins
I have another question. A long time ago, I found a web site with writing from I.F. Stone. It wasn’t the official web site and was eventually the taken down. While it was up, I read some thing that was a discussion of the U.S. War Department’s explanation of what fascism is. It was probably part

Re: [marxmail] After Riot, Business Leaders Reckon With Their Support for Trump

2021-01-08 Thread fkalosar101
The analogy with the Weimar Republic--or the Roman republic--is only that the insurrections that break out reveal deep crises of legitimacy in the republican systems being challenged and may presage their collapse, usually into some form of anti-republicanism (which is of course also antidemocra

[marxmail] Marighella | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
“Marighella” hearkens back to the best political films of the 1960s like Gillo Pontecorvo’s “The Battle of Algiers” and Costa-Gravas’s “State of Siege”. Set in 1968, it tells the story of Carlos Marighella’s desperate struggle against the military dictatorship in Brazil. Founder and leader of /

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
On 1/8/21 11:29 AM, Jeffrey Masko wrote: Leftist gun clubs have been doing just this for years, Redneck Revolt/the John Brown Gun Club, the SRA, the Huey Newton Gun Club, have all understood the challenges ahead and modestly began preparing. Yes, the politics of these groups can be problematic

Re: [marxmail] Trump and Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch

2021-01-08 Thread fkalosar101
On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:40 AM, Mark Lause wrote: > > > I haven't been able to find solid numbers on this, but the people who > actually stormed the Capitol seem to have been only a fraction of the > people who were attending the rallies most of whom had more sense than > that.  And those who w

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Jeffrey Masko
Leftist gun clubs have been doing just this for years, Redneck Revolt/the John Brown Gun Club, the SRA, the Huey Newton Gun Club, have all understood the challenges ahead and modestly began preparing. Yes, the politics of these groups can be problematic in that they often are trying to mesh Anarchi

Re: [marxmail] Trump and Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch

2021-01-08 Thread Mark Lause
This was Duck Dynasty trying its hand at biker street theatre, though it's serving as a Rorschach test. In social terms, the coastal commentators say its that work of the incomprehensible unwashed masses from the darkest interior of America, and the bourgeoisie with some delusions of noblesse obli

Re: [marxmail] US education secretary Betsy DeVos resigns, blaming Trump 'rhetoric' for violence | US news | The Guardian

2021-01-08 Thread Fred Murphy
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[marxmail] After Riot, Business Leaders Reckon With Their Support for Trump

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
(Any resemblance between the USA today and the Weimar Republic is purely coincidental.) NYT, Jan. 8, 2021 After Riot, Business Leaders Reckon With Their Support for Trump By David Gelles Big business struck a Faustian bargain with President Trump. When he said something incendiary or flirted w

Re: [marxmail] Trump and Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch

2021-01-08 Thread fkalosar101
The "idiot" commands the full-throated support of the majority of white people in the USA.  How is this possible?  It's possible because the republic, no matter what they say, no longer has legitimacy in the eyes of those people. The analogy with Hitler--like the analogy of the Roman republic du

[marxmail] Pardons

2021-01-08 Thread Ken Hiebert
Some of Trump’s supporters may be hoping that he will issue pardons for some or all of the those who face charges after the riot. Some may be hoping that he will issue a pardon for Julian Assange. Neither seems likely, but we won’t know until it’s over. ken h -=-=-=-=-=-

[marxmail] Trump condemns Capitol riot, concedes to Biden | PBS NewsHour

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
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[marxmail] Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement | Brennan Center for Justice

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
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[marxmail] University College London apologises for role in promoting eugenics | UCL (University College London) | The Guardian

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
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[marxmail] Fascism, Fascisation, Antifascism | Historical Materialism

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
///Ugo Palheta, author of/La Possibilité du fascisme/(La Découverte, 2018), offers elements for reflection on fascism (past and present), on processes of fascisation and on the antifascism that is needed, in the hope that this may contribute to a wider understanding of present and future battle

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

2021-01-08 Thread Jim Brash via groups.io
What we saw on the other day was simply a test run. A section of the ruling class will actually use these types of goons when the time comes, and another section will blame these types after they themselves orchestrate something nefarious. What we on the left (socialists, anarchists, etc) need t

Re: [marxmail] US education secretary Betsy DeVos resigns, blaming Trump 'rhetoric' for violence | US news | The Guardian

2021-01-08 Thread judeanpeoplesfront via groups.io
What hypocrisy. It’s ok for the likes of DeVos and Mulvaney to take a sledgehammer to government from the inside, but once their plebeian supporters emulate them, they’re all shock and horror. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online

[marxmail] US education secretary Betsy DeVos resigns, blaming Trump 'rhetoric' for violence | US news | The Guardian

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Rats abandon a sinking ship. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/07/trump-adviser-resigns-two-other-senior-officials-consider-quitting-matt-pottinger -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#5265): https://groups.io/g/ma

[marxmail] No future: the English Left in retrospect | Politics News | Al Jazeera

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
By Richard Seymour. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2020/12/29/no-future-the-english-left-in-retrospect -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#5264): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/5264 Mute This Topic: https://groups.

[marxmail] The Capitol Riot Reveals the Dangers From the Enemy Within | The Nation

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
By Eric Foner. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-insurrection-sedition-capitol-coup/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#5263): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/5263 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/7

[marxmail] Trump and Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Posted to FB by Daniel Taylor, a member of Socialist Alternative in Australia: The January 6 events were not a Beer Hall Putsch. The Beer Hall Putsch happened three years after Germany's new bourgeois-democratic government had been briefly overthrown in a right-wing military coup initiated fr

[marxmail] The Journey of Ashli Babbitt - bellingcat

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
On January 5, Bellingcat published anarticle detailing how the January 6 rally in Washington D.C. was preceded by weeks of online discussion among the

[marxmail] ASSA 2021 – part one: the mainstream dilemma – Michael Roberts Blog

2021-01-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Perhaps the most interesting paper in this session was that by Janice Eberly of NorthWestern University who showed that during the COVID slump, companies had saved huge amounts of capital spending on offices, travel and other physical equipment as staff worked from home (at their own expense).