Re: [marxmail] Venezuela denounces US piracy after presidential jet confiscated (Venezuelanalysis)

2024-09-03 Thread Vladimiro Giacche'
So is Us piracy justified? VG Inviato da iPhone > Il giorno 4 set 2024, alle ore 06:50, Charlie via groups.io > ha scritto: > >  > Isn't it a little tone deaf to dwell on the seizure of a personal jet that > comfortably seats 8-12 passengers, two of which recline to make a full-size >

Re: [marxmail] Venezuela denounces US piracy after presidential jet confiscated (Venezuelanalysis)

2024-09-03 Thread Charlie
Isn't it a little tone deaf to dwell on the seizure of a personal jet that comfortably seats 8-12 passengers, two of which recline to make a full-size bed? With all the privation suffered by the people of Venezuela from U.S. sanctions and government disdain for working people, the real question

[marxmail] Venezuela denounces US piracy after presidential jet confiscated (Venezuelanalysis)

2024-09-03 Thread Chris Slee
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/venezuela-denounces-us-piracy-after-presidential-jet-confiscated/ Mexico City, Mexico, September 3, 2024 (venezuelanalysis.com) – Venezuela accused Washington of “piracy” after a jet used by Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro wa

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Marv Gandall
With respect, Mark, you're harbouring  illusions about the old British Labour Party. Class and political consciousness everyhere was higher in the 1920’s then than it is now, and more so in Britain than in the US, but the ostensible commitment to “socialism” in the Sunday-speechifying of the LP

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Mark Lause
The Labour Party of the 1920s isn't the same as the Democratic Party of 2020s. I shouldn't have to spend a post pointing this out. :-) On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 8:38 PM Marv Gandall via groups.io wrote: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 03:28 PM, Charles Rachlis wrote: > > So why would Debs, Lenin and Trot

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Marv Gandall
On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 03:28 PM, Charles Rachlis wrote: > > So why would Debs, Lenin and Trotsky say its unprincipled to vote for the > Democrats... revolutionary Marxists start from what is objectively > necessary (we say what is) not from the backward consciousness of the > working class. But

[marxmail] The New Yorker Publishes 2005 Haditha, Iraq Massacre Photos Marines “Didn’t Want the World to See”

2024-09-03 Thread Dennis Brasky
After nearly two decades of obstruction by the U.S. military, *The New Yorker* has obtained and published 10 photos of the aftermath of the 2005 Haditha massacre, when U.S. marines killed 24 Iraqi civilians in revenge for an IED bombing that killed a service member. The graphic images show dead Ira

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Dennis Brasky
In the absence of a strong labor movement pushing for independent candidates opposed to the bourgeois parties, I see nothing unprincipled about supporting social-democratic types who run as independents, whether it be the presidential campaigns of Nader in 2000 or La Follete on the Progressive Part

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Mark Lause
On Marv's questions. (1) yes, given the electoral college, it only matters in swing states. My vote for Harris or Trump would not matter in Ohio which will go for Trump or in Illinois, where I now live which will go Democratic regardless of my vote. (2) Theoretically, yes. It did not happen on 2000

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread Charlie
On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 06:59 PM, hari kumar wrote: > > Is that referenced somewhere by any chance? I expect it to be referenced in a statement from the CP of Venezuela a week from now. (It will be in English, which the PCV rarely does.) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread hari kumar
Hi Charlie: Is that referenced somewhere by any chance? Cheers H -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#31988): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/31988 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/108120933/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES &

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread Charlie
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 05:56 PM, Chris Slee wrote: Tareck el Aissaimi has > been arrested > > A friend in Venezuela tells me: Tarek El Aissami was indeed arrested, four months after his dealings came out publically. The state couldn't find a PSUV leading member for that period?! He was in

Re: [marxmail] Thesis on world perspectives... I

2024-09-03 Thread Duane Filan
Marv - "They [the ball busting, bourgeois feminists] rarely if ever identify with their lower-income sisters" // Is Feminism No Longer the F-Word? - Canadian Women's Foundation

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Charles Rachlis via groups.io
To Marv's question,  I love the question because it confirms the conclusion that the various "third party" options are no more than pressure groups attempting with a thread bare string to pull the Democrats to the left while massive tow lines are pulling them further to the right. I would like t

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread Charlie
On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 05:56 PM, Chris Slee wrote: > > Tareck el Aissaimi has been arrested Yeah, years later (just last April) Tareck el Aissaimi was arrested. It's Maduro copying Xi Jinping's anti-corruption stunt, while the corruption goes on and on. Good luck getting much of that $23 billi

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread Chris Slee
Tareck el Aissaimi has been arrested for alleged corruption. The US economic blockade of Venezuela has created extreme hardship for the Venezuelan people. In an attempt to circumvent the blockade, Venezuelan government bodies such as PDVSA have secretly used private companies as intermediaries

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread Charlie
On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 02:59 PM, Mike Sola wrote: > > Maduro and his plutocratic cronies have become *enormously wealthy* at the > expense of the Venezuelan working class." > > Just curious: what's your evidence for this claim? >From the CP of Venezuela: " Tareck El Aissami (former oil minister

[marxmail] Thumbnail skewer of the multipolaristas

2024-09-03 Thread Charlie
"The latest notion distracting the left from socialism is the doctrine that global multipolarity --removing the unipolar US from the pinnacle of the imperialist heap-- will somehow produce a more just world and even move us closer to socialism. While capitalists in many countries would welcome l

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Marv Gandall
My quadrennial election cycle questions for my American friends: 1. The issue of whether to support the Democrats only matters in a handful of swing states does it not? 2. Isn't there a danger that if a third party takes just enough swing state votes from the Democrats allowing Trump to win, th

Re: [marxmail] Ecosocialist Bookshelf September 2024

2024-09-03 Thread David Walters via groups.io
If you want the original Engels editing of Capital I, it is available here: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#31978): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/31978 Mute This T

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread David Walters via groups.io
[Edited Message Follows] Mark, in all honesty, I couldn't give a shit what West accepts or not. This not a working class campaign so I have little interest in it's "success" at all. In general anyone with the vaguely "leftist" politics of West should reject and oppose, loudly, any other capital

[marxmail] Ecosocialist Bookshelf September 2024

2024-09-03 Thread Ian Angus
*ECOSOCIALIST BOOKSHELF, SEPTEMBER 2024 * A monthly column, hosted by Ian Angus This month: Karl Marx: Capital, Volume 1 (New Translation) Joe Roman: Eat, Poop, Die Beverley Best: The Automatic Fetish Andrew

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread Charles Rachlis via groups.io
Robin, That is a legitimate question especially for sectors of the left who uncritically support petty gangster capitalist regimes and emergent imperialists and champion them as the path forward for the working class.  Revolutionary Marxists, unlike those who you are focused on, do not support t

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread Mike Sola
Robin, You said, "Maduro and his plutocratic cronies have become *enormously wealthy *at the expense of the Venezuelan working class." Just curious: what's your evidence for this claim? Mike -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Onl

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Charles Keener via groups.io
The Green Party is an "Eco-Socialist" Party. Howie Hawkins ran as both the Green Party and Socialist Party candidate in 2020. Charles -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#31974): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/319

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread David Walters via groups.io
I agree with Charles and Mark, in a way...first, neither the West nor Stein campaign are seen as "socialist" by any operative for the two parties of Wall St.  That doesn't mean, Mark, that having ANY party on the ballot that can siphon votes away from the Democrats for the GOP advantage the GOP

[marxmail] From School Librarian to Activist: ‘The Hate Level and the Vitriol Is Unreal’

2024-09-03 Thread Dennis Brasky
Amid a surge in book bans nationwide, the librarian Amanda Jones was targeted by vicious threats. So she decided to fight back. *https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/03/books/amanda-jones-librarian-book-bans.html * One

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Mark Lause
Yes, but what does that do? The class criteria might suit European political parties, but what we have here are a corporate capitalist duopoly and a series on non-party one-shot protest candidates. (I'm not including RFK who was always just trying to slip into one or the other of them.) No sectio

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread Charles Rachlis via groups.io
These campaigns, West, Nader, Stein are all by admission and practice pressure campaigns to influence the Democratic Party.  None of them have the intention of fighting for a workers government and all stand as a roadblock on the path blocking workers from the fight for class independence and po

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

2024-09-03 Thread David Walters via groups.io
Mark, in all honesty, I couldn't give a shit was West accepts or not. This not a working class campaign so I have little interest in it's "success" at all. In general anyone with the vaguely "leftist" politics of West should reject and oppose, loudly, any other capitalist party giving him back h

Re: [marxmail] What happened in Venezuela’s presidential elections? An interview with human rights activist Antonio Plessmann (SurGentes)

2024-09-03 Thread robin cox
I cannot, for the life of me, understand the attraction of the gangster capitalist Maduro regime for some (not all) on the Left. Let's not kid ourselves - Maduro and his plutocratic cronies have become enormously wealthy at the expense of the Venezuelan working class. Poverty and inequality - Ven

[marxmail] Palestinians Will Speak Whether Democrats Want Them to or Not

2024-09-03 Thread Dennis Brasky
The party may have successfully prevented Palestinians from addressing the DNC. But it cannot hold back the tide forever. https://portside.org/2024-09-02/palestinians-will-speak-whether-democrats-want-them-or-not -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group

[marxmail] UN Rapporteur says Israel targets Gaza, West Bank in elimination, expansion strategy

2024-09-03 Thread Dayne Goodwin
Middle East Monitor, September 2 https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240902-un-rapporteur-says-israel-targets-gaza-west-bank-in-elimination-expansion-strategy/ The UN’s Special Rapporteur on Palestine, on Monday, said that Israel is targeting Gaza and the West Bank as part of an elimination and ex