Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD

2000-06-06 Thread Sean Buckingham
SSR wrote: .. Improvements to ATRAC are really improvements to the psychoaccoustic models used for encoding. The "format" of data on a disc is identical; the difference is in which bits are recorded and which are not. And as the psychoaccoustic model has absolutely nothing to do with

Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD

2000-06-06 Thread Sean Buckingham
Sorry Rat! I broke my own rule for postings. I wrote: Not even close. There are no "bands, each of which has a fixed data width", unless you're calling a bit a band. It should read instead: "Please be careful about what you post as fact, you can easily give people a misconception

Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD

2000-06-06 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* Eric Woudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 06 Jun 2000 | Not even close. There are no "bands, each of which has a fixed data | width", unless you're calling a bit a band. I was simplifying things for the novice, is all. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be

RE: MD: Classical Music - CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Simon Barnes
David W. Tamkin wrote: pre-mastered MDs have to be at least as good and possibly better, since their ATRAC algorithms can be fine-tuned and adapted to do the best job possible for the type of music being mastered This is a nice idea, but is there any evidence it can actually

Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Sean Buckingham
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:05:01 -0700 Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some peices. However..the compression systems are getting better all the time. I think all this only applies to recordings you make yourself though... Nope, it applies to pre-recorded MDs as well. An MD still has

Re: MD: Classical Music - CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* Simon Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 05 Jun 2000 | This is a nice idea, but is there any evidence it can actually be done ? Sony ATRAC 4 vs. 4.5. The difference is primarilly in tweaks made to the psychoaccoustic model used by the encoder. It is most definitely possible to tweak the

Re: MD: Classical Music - CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* Simon Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 05 Jun 2000 | What, one is classical and the other not ? No, one is just "better". ATRAC 4 is what is in consumer grade MD equipment, 4.5 is in Sony's "home studio" grade equipment. What is in pro studio mastering equipment is quite possibly something

Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
* Sean Buckingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 05 Jun 2000 | Whilst I would have little technical comprehension of how discs could be | coded differently yet still read on the same machines, surely this is what | is happening? Not even close. What is different is the psychoaccoustic model used

Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD

2000-06-03 Thread Dan Frakes
Sean Buckingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problems arise because of the way the MD technology compresses the music.. the process involves losing the frequencies that it thinks you won't hear. As classical music tends to be more complex (and have vastly different dynamics) than other music,