Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread KaiGai Kohei
(2010/01/07 16:17), Toru Maesaka wrote: Yo all, Looks like I've jumped on this band wagon a little late but allow me to throw in my thoughts. Firstly, I'm totally against item-level authentication. Please use the correct term to avoid confusion :( Authentication is a different concept from

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread dormando
Are you suggesting that applications has to handle the scramble buffer correctly for each accesses? It seems to me we can obtain credential of the client using SASL authentication, without any additional hints. If the security map means something like access control list, what we are talking

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread Toru Maesaka
Please use the correct term to avoid confusion :( Authentication is a different concept from access control. Point taken :) Obviously, it is valueable. My proposition is just a framework to host an additional access control feature without any assumption for security models. In other word,

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread KaiGai Kohei
(2010/01/07 17:50), dormando wrote: Are you suggesting that applications has to handle the scramble buffer correctly for each accesses? It seems to me we can obtain credential of the client using SASL authentication, without any additional hints. If the security map means something like

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread dormando
http://github.com/memcached/memcached/tree/engine-pu Is it correct branch for the discussion base? http://github.com/trondn/memcached/tree/engine is the tip. engine-pu is ... not quite master yet. -Dormando

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread KaiGai Kohei
(2010/01/07 17:55), Toru Maesaka wrote: Please use the correct term to avoid confusion :( Authentication is a different concept from access control. Point taken :) Obviously, it is valueable. My proposition is just a framework to host an additional access control feature without any

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread Rami Badran
i would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list 2010/1/7 KaiGai Kohei kai...@ak.jp.nec.com (2010/01/07 17:55), Toru Maesaka wrote: Please use the correct term to avoid confusion :( Authentication is a different concept from access control. Point taken :) Obviously, it is

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread Dustin
On Jan 7, 2:02 am, Rami Badran ramibadran...@gmail.com wrote: i would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list OK. You don't have to announce it, though, just silently duck out. Nobody will be offended.

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread Toru Maesaka
Ahh, now I'm with you. I don't deny it is niche. However, it is absolutely necessary feature for people who want to set up secure web application platform. It seems to me there is no difference from what I said, except for name of the framework. Indeed. Apologies for not realizing this

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread Dustin
On Jan 7, 12:55 am, Toru Maesaka d...@torum.net wrote: BTW, Is the storage engine stackable? If not so, it seems to me we will face a tradeoff between persistent storage and access controls. No. It's not stackable. If you want to do this you'd have to create an abstraction layer within the

Re: Multiple memcached servers with same data

2010-01-07 Thread pub crawler
Well, someone is afoul within your network configuration wise. Traceroute should work well beyond 1 hop. Here's a list of public Looking Glass servers. Find one in your country with a provider known to you perhaps and run traceroutes from there: http://www.traceroute.org/ On Wed, Jan 6, 2010

Re: Multiple memcached servers with same data

2010-01-07 Thread Henrik Schröder
Ask Facebook, not this mailing list. http://www.facebook.com/help/ /Henrik Schröder On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 01:02, Martin Bay m...@netomia.dk wrote: How come sites like facebook does not place memcached servers around the world with a live updated copy of their primary memcached servers?

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread Brandon_Ramirez
Can an SSH tunnel not be used to add an authentication layer? Can't any TCP/IP-based application protocol be encapsulated in an SSH tunnel? Brandon Ramirez | Office: 585.214.5013 | Fax: 585.295.4848 Software Engineer II | Element K | www.elementk.com

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread Aaron Stone
2010/1/6 KaiGai Kohei kai...@ak.jp.nec.com: (2010/01/07 11:39), Aaron Stone wrote: If users means users of your site, then are you going to apply per-user access controls to the rows in your database, too? Yes, see the page.14 of the slides:  

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread Guille -bisho-
Like I said, I understand your argument. The question is what proportion of the users would benefit from this? To be honest I don't have the answer for this. However, taking into account that memcached has been used worldwide without serious complaints by players of all sizes in it's history,

Re: Issue 111 in memcached: compile errors: array subscript has type 'char'

2010-01-07 Thread memcached
Comment #6 on issue 111 by ptiquet: compile errors: array subscript has type 'char' http://code.google.com/p/memcached/issues/detail?id=111 Confirmed fixed here. memcached 1.4.4 now compiles on Sol9/sparc with no errors with this change to util.c. -- You received this message because

Re: Multiple memcached servers with same data

2010-01-07 Thread Martin Bay
Well my reason for asking was actually related to memcached - wether or not it is possible to use foreign located servers to maintain a live copy of the primary memcached db and thereby serve foreign users better. I guess the answer is yes. On Jan 7, 11:46 am, Henrik Schröder skro...@gmail.com

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread KaiGai Kohei
(2010/01/07 20:57), brandon_rami...@elementk.com wrote: Can an SSH tunnel not be used to add an authentication layer? Can't any TCP/IP-based application protocol be encapsulated in an SSH tunnel? This idea focuses on different topic. SSH/SSL tunnel prevent information leaks with tapping

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread KaiGai Kohei
(2010/01/08 3:56), Aaron Stone wrote: If we can identify the client (web application instance) in some way, memcached will be able to store the something identifier of the cached object. It may be called owner of the cached object (depending on the security model). Then, access control

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread KaiGai Kohei
(2010/01/07 23:36), Guille -bisho- wrote: Like I said, I understand your argument. The question is what proportion of the users would benefit from this? To be honest I don't have the answer for this. However, taking into account that memcached has been used worldwide without serious

Re: Multiple memcached servers with same data

2010-01-07 Thread pub crawler
Yes, you can run remote memcached instances be they even say international. I run expermentally a SSH connection to our server cluster remotely and via it have access to our memcached cluster. I could thereby connect memcached daemons at this location to our remote cluster. Personally, I am

Re: memcached and access control

2010-01-07 Thread KaiGai Kohei
(2010/01/07 19:19), Toru Maesaka wrote: Ahh, now I'm with you. I don't deny it is niche. However, it is absolutely necessary feature for people who want to set up secure web application platform. It seems to me there is no difference from what I said, except for name of the framework.