Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL Market Value?

2007-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey
Now I KNOW this is a tough crowd when it comes to these 3.5L rodbender engines, but is the longevity of the factory replacement engines better than the originals? What might a car like this fetch on the open market? Factory replacement engines are just fine. No special worries. -- Jim

[MBZ] king pin fit

2007-10-13 Thread walter warren
Bob Bigham is correct! It isn,t that important. 50 years ago I bought all of the parts from Sears to rebuild the front end on my '40 Chev. They came in MOOG boxes. My dad told me that I would have to have the bushings pressed in and reamed to fit. I told him that I didn't think that was

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL Market Value?

2007-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would go $7,000, just based on your description, fly in and drive it home. My guess is someone who is really looking for a car like this, with the replacement engine, would go 12K. Marshall will probably chime in, but the replacement engines are supposed to be

[MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread wilton strickland
Mine is the finest driving/riding car I'VE ever driven. BTW, 'been driving for 57 yrs. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] King pin installation

2007-10-13 Thread David Bruckmann
Gang, I think it's worth remembering that king pins on a '39 GMC truck might be of a slightly different design than a '69 Mercedes, or for that matter a '48 to '89 Citroen 2CV. I can tell you with the 2CV there is no reaming whatsoever; the tricky part is that you need a 15-ton press to get the

Re: [MBZ] King pin installation

2007-10-13 Thread Robert Bigham
Hello Tom If you say 000 589 03 53 is a adjustable reamer, I have to believe you. Using an adjustable reamer to size bushings for a new ground O.D. pin is a near stone age way of doing things. except I don't think they had actual reamers in the stone age or shortly afterward. If you

Re: [MBZ] King pin installation

2007-10-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
The bottom bolt is a conventional bolt but the top bolt is actually an assembly that's also used in one of the front end adjustments. And that same top bolt has enough clearance in the threads to accept lubrication (grease) and consequently, has a small amount of free play. Thanks, Tom

[MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?

2007-10-13 Thread Robert Bigham
Hi folks And now for something completely different. - Monty Python I'm all set to change my coolant and install the Mercedes (actully, Daimler-Chrysler) approved Zerex G-5 or whatever to go with my new Behr Mercedes Benz radiator from Germany via Rusty. Thank you Rusty. The good things

Re: [MBZ] King pin installation

2007-10-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
My point exactly. But MB goes overboard with a lot of their mechanical designs. But, maybe that's one reason they last so long? And Ford the other examples used in the opposing arguements are not so critical with tolerances maybe this is one reason thay don't last so long? I do know one thing

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL Market Value?

2007-10-13 Thread OK Don
I think that is probably the ultimate 603 engine -- the new rods, improved head, more torque, etc. It ought to be good for a LONG time. On 10/13/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I KNOW this is a tough crowd when it comes to these 3.5L rodbender engines, but is the longevity of

Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?

2007-10-13 Thread Peter Frederick
If that is a 602 (should be a 616 in a W123 chassis, I think, even a Euro) the drain is on the side of the block between the last two cylinders, down at the bottom of the water jacket, or about halfway between the head gasket and the oil pan. It has a hose nipple on it and is a 19mm if I

Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?

2007-10-13 Thread Robert Bigham
Hello Peter I'll look for the thing you describe. It would be above the starter and really hard to see. Maybe that's why I haven't found it. I assure you this is a 102.980 four cylinder gasoline engine in a 123 chassis, marketed in most of the world, but not in the US, as a 230E. It is

[MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread wilton strickland
What color is it? Let's see photo. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] King Pin Reamer

2007-10-13 Thread Frederick W Moir
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Re: [MBZ] King pin installation

2007-10-13 Thread Robert Bigham
I continue to reject the idea that bolts holding a front suspension together, like holding a steering arm to a spindle, have slop and actually work back and forth in use, and this is normal or expected. Come on. I could be convinced by a drawing showning the parts and the clearance specified

[MBZ] 124 tumbler close call!

2007-10-13 Thread wilton strickland
Early morning several days ago, I drove my now nearly showroom 87 300D a few blocks to dental appt. 'Parked at curb out front. About 45 min. later back to car. Key would not go all the way in! (Only prob. I've had with it before was coupla times with wheels sitting on a bump or pavement ridge,

Re: [MBZ] King pin installation

2007-10-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
OK, then look at the following three pictures. Picture1 is of the page that includes the specs. Also included on the page is a drawing of the top bottom bolt with required play for receiving lubricant. http://www.kegkits.com/Mercedes/Picture1.jpg Picture2 is of the page that shows the entire

Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?

2007-10-13 Thread Hendrik Fay
What the heck are you talking about? The motor in question is a M102 not a OM. However you are close to the mark, the block drain plug is on the exhaust manifold side about halfway along the block. Pain to get at and I think it is 17mm. Make sure that the heater is set to full on while you run

Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?

2007-10-13 Thread Hendrik Fay
If you are searching around the starter you are on the wrong side. Robert Bigham wrote: Hello Peter I'll look for the thing you describe. It would be above the starter and really hard to see. Maybe that's why I haven't found it. I assure you this is a 102.980 four cylinder gasoline

Re: [MBZ] 124 tumbler close call!

2007-10-13 Thread Hendrik Fay
Ahh yes, job 46-8110. Why didn't you ask? http://www.mbcnsw.org.au/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=424b7351fe83eae762c431b2f4966826action=dlattach;topic=2427.0;attach=1565 wilton strickland wrote: Early morning several days ago, I drove my now nearly showroom 87 300D a few blocks to dental appt.

Re: [MBZ] 124 tumbler close call!

2007-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey
but I don't give up that easily. Always a useful trait! Today I mounted a key on the triangular removable sanding base of a Bosch detail sander to be used as an automatic jiggler/fibrator. Interesting idea. I just saved $700 to $800 by being lucky enough for the last resort sander

Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?

2007-10-13 Thread Loren Faeth
This is a Euro car, imported to the USA. 230E, 123 They are great cars! At 08:36 PM 10/13/2007, you wrote: If you are searching around the starter you are on the wrong side. Robert Bigham wrote: Hello Peter I'll look for the thing you describe. It would be above the starter and really

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread Loren Faeth
I agree the 126 is the best car ever made, and the OM 603 versions are the best of the best! Jeez Wilton, you must have had several thousand hours of flying time in before you drove! By my calculation you must have been flying for about 6-7 years at least before driving! Inquiring minds want

[MBZ] 124 tumbler close call!

2007-10-13 Thread wilton strickland
Why didn't I ask? 'Cause I read lots of posts and several sets of instructions on the subject (specifically, 124) in this forum's and mercedesshop's archives. 'Thought if I asked, likely response would have been, Check archives. BTW, I was already well-versed on the subject 'cept the protective

[MBZ] 124 tumbler close call!

2007-10-13 Thread wilton strickland
BTW, just checked job 46-8110. I didn't even have to remove (and did not) small panel around the switch (37L). Thnx. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL Market Value?

2007-10-13 Thread Luther - laptop
Here's one on eBay. http://tinyurl.com/2lenky I once saw one on a car lot locally. Drove it. It had LESS power than my '83 SD so I'm sure the engine wasn't in top shape. They wanted around $8k for it and it had been on the market for 8 months. I told them it was worth $2k with a most

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL Market Value?

2007-10-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
Get off my DSL, you leach! On 10/13/07, Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one on eBay. http://tinyurl.com/2lenky -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org

[MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread wilton strickland
Started driving in 1950; to B-52's in 1962. Which book? In The BUFF finished 4 yrs ago; A Carolina Country Boy finished 2 yrs ago. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL Market Value?

2007-10-13 Thread Luther - laptop
Help me fix this wireless! On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:07:09 -0500, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get off my DSL, you leach! On 10/13/07, Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one on eBay. http://tinyurl.com/2lenky -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL

[MBZ] King pin Grease

2007-10-13 Thread M.Affzaal.Khan
Surely the correct type of grease would make a difference to the longevity of the bushes. Would molybdenum grease among the recommendations for greasing the suspension nipples? mak - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes@okiebenz.com

[MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread wilton strickland
'Just realized - 'cause mine still has orig. engine and 188 kmi, I might aughta buy this one with replaced eng. and only 170 kmi. But I'm leary of cars from FL - I'v seen several with MANY more miles than claimed. Wonder what color, etc., it is. Wilton ___

Re: [MBZ] 124 tumbler close call!

2007-10-13 Thread Tony Wirtel
Wilton, Congratulations on getting the tumbler out! One thing I've learned the hard way (and this only applies IF the steering lock on the W124 is made in the same way as the 123/126) is that after replacing a tumbler on two cars, I had a steering lock problem soon after. With my cars it was

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
I got born in 1952 ... and I have grandchildren. ;-) On 10/13/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Started driving in 1950; to B-52's in 1962. Which book? In The BUFF finished 4 yrs ago; A Carolina Country Boy finished 2 yrs ago. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] WiFi in win2k

2007-10-13 Thread Luther - laptop
Network Stumbler is a great program, BUT it doesn't actually control the connection. It only tells you which networks are out there. McAfee's wireless security program controls the connection completely. That is what I needed. http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/Downloads.do

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread Gary Hurst
no updates on the Q? anyone show up? On 10/13/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got born in 1952 ... and I have grandchildren. ;-) On 10/13/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Started driving in 1950; to B-52's in 1962. Which book? In The BUFF finished 4 yrs

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread Luther - laptop
Old fart! z On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:31:14 -0500, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got born in 1952 ... and I have grandchildren. ;-) On 10/13/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Started driving in 1950; to B-52's in 1962. Which book? In The BUFF finished 4 yrs

Re: [MBZ] 124 tumbler close call!

2007-10-13 Thread Harry Watkins
Congratulations Wilton and thanks for sharing all the details with us. BTW, I worked on the engines of those B-52s you flew, I must be good because you're still here, you're welcome. (grin) Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

[MBZ] IowaQ update!

2007-10-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
We had fun. No one got wasted and made a fool of him/herself, there was plenty of food (my frig is bursting at the seams with leftovers), and I got to drive Tommy's 1998 S420. I need one -- would look good in my garage. I am in LOVE. Robbin's 300D snapped my neck and made me reluctant to climb

Re: [MBZ] King pin Grease

2007-10-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
Any modern, quality grease will do fine as you don't have the heat soak problems you have with disk brake wheel bearings, but it will not hurt to use the same high temperature grease you use for wheel bearings. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL

2007-10-13 Thread Loren Faeth
Sorry, I guess I missed something along the line! Last I knew you were working on a book. I'm not sure which one that was. Time flies... Anyway, where are the books available? Got a movie coming out yet? (only partially joking on the movie.) Loren At 10:00 PM 10/13/2007, you wrote:

Re: [MBZ] IowaQ update!

2007-10-13 Thread Robert Rentfro
Thanks for the report, Lt. Don. Hopefully someone was taking photos Too bad it wasn't 2K miles closer to me...I ended up having the day off. Bob R. Went and saw Across the Universe instead. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the