Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues

2008-04-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
Also, are these the ones with the single chain/double chain issue? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave H... Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues My mother'

Re: [MBZ] sl #2log

2008-04-18 Thread OK Don
Check out the Road & Track article on the 107 from Mar., '94. The section on the production history will answer a lot of questions. http://fly.hiwaay.net/~gbf/107/rt.html On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Jim.. I suppose that I should be looking for 76

Re: [MBZ] sl #2log

2008-04-18 Thread Douglas
Thanks Jim.. I suppose that I should be looking for 76 and prior is there any in that time frame that have hydraulic lifters or are they all solids? Douglas - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:18 PM Su

Re: [MBZ] Sticky clutch W123

2008-04-18 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:10:47 +0930 Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My thinking here is to remove the slave cylinder and either give > the piston seal a bit of a work over with fine sandpaper or put the > original piston seal back in. > Does anyone have any brighter ideas, it may well

Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues

2008-04-18 Thread Dave H...
My mother's had an electronic valve that had gone bad causing it to run improperly. I believe the bill at the Mercedes dealer in CT was approximately $600.00 An $1,800 oil pan gasket? !!! My those shysters rot !ll. Dave H... -- From: "Robe

[MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues

2008-04-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
The wife has a work bud who just was willed an '85 380SL 103K miles. The bud told her that it was running rough so she took it to our local rip-off loser shop. Those shysters told her she needed an oil pan gasket ($1800 quote) and, since it is running rich she needed a new fuel injection system ($2

Re: [MBZ] sl #2log

2008-04-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> I like the idea of a 1975 450SL for the > fact that there is no smog check here in CA. Though I know you and > everybody > else in the world hates the Chysler climate control from '76 through > '80. I > have spent like 3 months fixing my 1980 300D climate. Works wonderful! The 75 SL doesn't ha

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Houston is the center of the all bidness in the US. Most of the "easy" oil has been found and extracted. Now, the big reserves (that the companies are allowed to tap) are located off-shore in thousands of feet of water in the Gulf. The technology and equipment used to get to this stuff is am

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread LarryT
Hi Tom, I bought a '91 300D 2.5T in Feb06 with 99k miles on it. You need to find out how it was driven. Lots of short trips like mine or perhaps some long distance drives? It matters greatly. My 2.5 with short tripsnever fully warmed up causing carbon to build up in the cyliunder heads.

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
Remember decades ago when the main complaint against driving a diesel was "Oh, I don't like having to drive to a truck stop for fuel" (most gas stations didn't carry diesel). Today when filling I stopped at an old fuel oil (heating) company, kinda off the beaten path. I'd known they sold retail fo

[MBZ] heres a 450SL add

2008-04-18 Thread Douglas
I like the drive.. front wheel its been on for some time now. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/647622112.html Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today

2008-04-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and inflating the price of diesel to make their profit. tom savage wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wro

Re: [MBZ] car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Redghost
Donald, offer to fly out with the cash to pick it up. You will save more by doing that than having it shipped unless you like first class fares out of Wichita. If it is a scam, you will not hear much from the seller, unless he is nigerian clay On 17 Apr 2008, at 07:29, Donald Snook wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Rolf wrote: > > I'm only 30 (31 on 6/6). You were born on 6/6/77 ? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http:/

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: > > The thing that annoys me is that the oil producers are crying about how > it is getting more expensive to find and extract oil. Of course it's more expensive. All their equipment runs on oil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

Re: [MBZ] sl #2log

2008-04-18 Thread Douglas
Jim I wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed reading about your 380! I know how much time it takes to actually do the work and then how hard it is to write about it. Reading about yours makes me really want to buy a cheap on for me! Though I am tending to buy a complete SL. I have been lookin

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread OK Don
A friend who was a park ranger one summer put it this way - you can't out run a full race radio. > they set up a roadblock down the road and got the guy. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D,

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread OK Don
I second the motion -- the ultimate E type is the '66 or '67 coupe. Covered headlights, three SU's, synchro first gear tranny, no smog stuff. > I still hope to own one (An E Type) but with the rust problem it's probably > not going to happen unless I win the lottery/ > > IMO the early (63-67)

Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap MOG

2008-04-18 Thread E M
Hmmm, wonder what you tow a project MOG home with? ;-) Ed 300E On 18/04/2008, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it doesn't run, and is totally an open air vehicle --- > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/6438

Re: [MBZ] For those for whom a W123 240D automatic is too fast...

2008-04-18 Thread OK Don
Back "in the day" Mercedes did not consider it necessary to label the controls. You were supposed to have read the owners manual, and know which was which before driving the car. I wonder how nice it would be with a 2.5 turbo (602) drive train? On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[

Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap MOG

2008-04-18 Thread OK Don
Well, it doesn't run, and is totally an open air vehicle --- On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/643812674.html > > only $3k? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-18 Thread Hendrik & Fay
The thing that annoys me is that the oil producers are crying about how it is getting more expensive to find and extract oil. Every few weeks there is a 'crisis' somewhere and the price goes up. Question is how critical are these crisis? Are they just beat ups to push the price up? Smells like a

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread Rick Knoble
> I'm sure Kaleb and others will chime in with details, but I don't > believe it's any fun to change heater core or A/C evaporator in > that chassis, and IIRC the evap is not known for longevity. This is from Dave M.s site, IIRC. http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/124.1x3_buying_tips.

[MBZ] Sticky clutch W123

2008-04-18 Thread Hendrik & Fay
The clutch in my 230E is a bit sticky, I rebuild the slave cylinder before installation but used non genuine bits, which are a 1/4 of the price of MB branded kits. However it would appear that the piston seal is a bit tight in the bore. Problem being that because it slightly sticks, every know a

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread tom savage
Mitch Haley wrote: > Early XKEs and '63 Vetts doing 160? How about 300SLs? I don't think so. Official top speed in a 300SL is 161. That was with a broken-in "development engine" and a 3.24 rear end (3.46 was standard, 3.89 and 4.11 also available). It only broke 160 once, but that was all it

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley
I'm sure Kaleb and others will chime in with details, but I don't believe it's any fun to change heater core or A/C evaporator in that chassis, and IIRC the evap is not known for longevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: ht

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread John Robbins
Rolf wrote: > The other reason I like the w123 is headroom. I test drove some > 124/201 and felt like I was in a Mitsubishi Eclipse or a Miata with > the top down. Did you have the seats moved down all the way? The spiffy seat adjustments can make me feel tall (I'm 5'6") or really short... mayb

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread Rolf
I'm only 30 (31 on 6/6). Chrome bumpers will get you places plastic ones never will. Like in and out of tough traffic situations, or through intersections with pedestrians who are to busy to pay attention to the hand. I have also noticed that Taxi drivers will give you more space as well although

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread Jeff Zedic
Chrome??? How gauche! Careful Rolf, your age is showing...hehehe Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: htt

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread Rolf
$500. Seriously anywhere from 5k on up. That kind of low mileage is a dream. Engine is pretty solid as it is like 3rd generation. Minuses? Stinking plastic bumpers, we dont need no stinking plastic bumpers, chrome is KING! -Rolf Tom Harruff wrote: > Listers > > I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Tur

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-18 Thread Allan Streib
"Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I don't understand why people think an oil company should not make > profits. Agreed. And where were these folks on the subject when oil was about $10/bbl and oil companies were losing their shirts? Allan -- 1983 300D

[MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo

2008-04-18 Thread Tom Harruff
Listers I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the ad. Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. Price (

Re: [MBZ] I found a car, so its time to get serious

2008-04-18 Thread R A Bennell
Unless I am blind, you never say what year the Explorer is. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] I found a car, so its time to get serious I foun

Re: [MBZ] I found a car, so its time to get serious

2008-04-18 Thread John Robbins
Is the Bonneville's fuel mileage that much better to justify selling the explorer and finding out all the new vehicle's problems? My $.02 John Donald Snook wrote: > I found a 1999 Pontiac Booneville that I want to buy. So, I need to > sell my Explorer. For any of you that might be interested h

Re: [MBZ] I found a car, so its time to get serious

2008-04-18 Thread Gary Hurst
how about i trade you a 300TD with smashed left side for it? On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found a 1999 Pontiac Booneville that I want to buy. So, I need to sell > my Explorer. For any of you that might be interested here is the > information on it.

[MBZ] I found a car, so its time to get serious

2008-04-18 Thread Donald Snook
I found a 1999 Pontiac Booneville that I want to buy. So, I need to sell my Explorer. For any of you that might be interested here is the information on it. It is a 4X4 with 115,000 miles. It is the 4.0 SOHC engine. It has the towing package, roof rack, running boards, nice wheels (factory al

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-18 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't understand why people think an oil company should not make profits. Their profits are pretty much in line with other companies, and lower than some (Microsoft for example), as a percentage of income. Should it be 0% or 2% or what? If less than the average then stock prices go down, i

[MBZ] For those for whom a W123 240D automatic is too fast...

2008-04-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Here's a daily driver diesel ponton! Talk about your leisurely motoring. At least the seller seems to be honest: 45 seconds of glow needed before it'll start, and top speed 60 mph. http://home.comcast.net/~aschneid1/180dforsale.htm (Lots of unlabeled mystery controls in the dash photos. Is tha

[MBZ] Dirt cheap MOG

2008-04-18 Thread Redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/643812674.html only $3k? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
With the existing regulation, big oil has a de-facto monopoly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 13:45 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes I believe in t

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Luther wrote: > > I believe in the free market, but does it really work? Take a look at the > fuel industry. Record prices AND record profits... That's not free > market... The ones with record profits are the ones who are pumping it out of the ground at record prices. Nothing wrong with t

Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

2008-04-18 Thread Luther
I believe in the free market, but does it really work? Take a look at the fuel industry. Record prices AND record profits... That's not free market... Luther On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:55:58 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you do not believe in a free market? > > Lut

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Rich Thomas
He told me about one guy in a Corvette, a cop on the road clocked him exceeding the speed limit then took off after him, the Vette took off so they called the helo which was flying around somewhere. The helo would do like 110 or 120 or something, the car was going faster than that, they set up

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread LarryT
You wrote<<>> I still hope to own one (An E Type) but with the rust problem it's probably not going to happen unless I win the lottery/ IMO the early (63-67) XKE Coupe is the most beautiful car ever made - The design was right from "Day One" and only got worse as they tweaked the various parts

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head, some cracks but no leaks. Keeper?

2008-04-18 Thread LarryT
Does this affect the 602 engines? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From

[MBZ] hmm, what to do??

2008-04-18 Thread E M
Well, it's a beautiful day here, and took the car to a part and had some lunch. Started thinking, not a bad car, didn't cost much money about a year ago, but it has a few of the problems of an old (1988 300E) car with 338,000 kms on it. Body is very good, and was a one owner car and dealer mainta

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
You guys with all your talk of used cop cars having been run into the ground are ruining my fantasies of buying one from this company: http://www.used-police-cars.com I like that the cars they sell have only 60K on them, and that they strip the municipality graphics and repaint them before sale.

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Kevin
Having owned one and been around a lot, there is no significant difference between the cop engine and the civilian engine in a crown victoria. The suspension is different, the advance curve in the computer is -slightly- different, the top speed is unlimited by the computer, brakes are a little bi

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How fast could a Miura S or 365 GTB go back then? > I just answered my own question via Wiki: Daytona 174, Miura S 171. > You'd have to have nerves of steel to go that fast on '70s tire technology. A much more impressive

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: > > do you remember when the NYPD decided to get K-cars? that didn't work out > well at all. I read one in a Car and Driver (might have been humor) about a cop who got stuck in a Volare or Aspen. Can't remember if it was 318 or 360. Some guy in a Vette passed him while he was

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Gary Hurst
do you remember when the NYPD decided to get K-cars? that didn't work out well at all. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pete wrote: "My BIL usually buys one evry 3 years and rotates into his > fleet. He reports very modest maintainance, decent highway m

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Jeff Zedic
Speaking of E Types, Fifth Gear, the competition to Top Gear, did a segment about whether an original E could still do 150. It was billed as the first production car to do 150. Tiff Needell took it out on theeir track and yes, it would still do a ton and a half as they say. Quite elegantly too! Z

Re: [MBZ] 124 Diesel vs. Gasoline

2008-04-18 Thread Rick Knoble
> I'm trying to finalize plans for my post frame home. It was 1680ft (30x56) > last year but now I'm wondering about 40x56 or 30x72 for a few thousand > extra $$. Does 2000 square feet sound like enough for one guy? > > It'll be about 1/3 living space, 1/6 office space and 1/2 garage/workshop. > R

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: > They had some great stories about chasing people in the helo, and > getting outrun by some of them on the interstate. I remember seeing that in one of the Cannonball/Gumball movies, didn't realize it happened in real life. How fast could a Miura S or 365 GTB go back then? I

Re: [MBZ] 124 Diesel vs. Gasoline

2008-04-18 Thread Curt Raymond
The guy that sits next to me at work has a 1900sq/ft house he enlarged from 900sq/ft and now he bitches CONSTANTLY about heating it. Geez Jim if you didn't have so much space it'd be easier to heat... My 900sqft 1938 house is easier to heat than my parents 2000sqft 1974 and it'll be easier to h

Re: [MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Back when I was in college in early 70s I worked at the airport, the State Popos kept their helicopter in our hangar, I got to know the pilots pretty well, great guys. Anyway one day I cut my hand on something, and the pilot determined I needed to go to the hospital to get it checked out. So

[MBZ] Cop cars, was Re: car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread Donald Snook
Pete wrote: "My BIL usually buys one evry 3 years and rotates into his fleet. He reports very modest maintainance, decent highway milage {Long Gears at play} and resale not too bad. He does pay a preimum for cars that he knows were ranking officers cars, not sure how he knows that. Something t

Re: [MBZ] 124 Diesel vs. Gasoline

2008-04-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
Kevin disclosed us: "so now, it shouldn't take long to save up enough money for me to buy this 1973 220D fixer upper. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/645361275.html"; I'd be on that like a hobo on a hot dog. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For ne

Re: [MBZ] car sale scams

2008-04-18 Thread pm7088
In Connecticut, State Troopers treat their cars very well, they are allowed to use them on private business. My BIL usually buys one evry 3 years and rotates into his fleet. He reports very modest maintainance, decent highway milage {Long Gears at play} and resale not too bad. He does pay a pr

Re: [MBZ] Portland CL interesting cars roundup

2008-04-18 Thread Kevin Kraly
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/645913057.html The miles are low, and the price is pretty good too! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] 124 Diesel vs. Gasoline

2008-04-18 Thread Kevin Kraly
Smaller houses waste less fuel. Ain't that the truth! The 3300SF house with the 3-car garage plus the 4-car heated shop cost us 3 times the energy bills! WE had to move back into our 2000SF house since it didn't sell, so now, it shouldn't take long to save up enough money for me to buy this 1