Re: [MBZ] not so private RANT about Kaleb

2008-06-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:55:41 -0500 Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's been like this since the time change... See my email of 2218 MDT ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used pa

Re: [MBZ] not so private RANT about Kaleb

2008-06-05 Thread Luther
It's been like this since the time change... Luther On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:12:01 -0500, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The issue is with his web host, not him. > > Low bid. > > D. > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Better yet: >> >> PICNIC:

[MBZ] Kaleb's computer problem [was: Re: Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Act]

2008-06-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
I just noticed an example of what Luther was talking about: On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:11:23 -0500 Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kaleb wrote: "I have been trying to find this out too. Nobody seems to > have a real answer. Its always he will change things. Well, what will > he change, an

Re: [MBZ] limp mode?

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
WE are going to have to get together some time. I need to try out your cdi John Robbins wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> I figured but you never know. Im thinking the 140 is actually a DVD > > The W211 is a DVD... its about $130. That really isn't all that bad > considering how much some

Re: [MBZ] limp mode?

2008-06-05 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I figured but you never know. Im thinking the 140 is actually a DVD The W211 is a DVD... its about $130. That really isn't all that bad considering how much some of the other tools/resources cost. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] limp mode?

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I figured but you never know. Im thinking the 140 is actually a DVD OK Don wrote: > Way too new car for most of us to have CD for --- > >> Is this on the 140 cd, looks >> like it might. Anybody have this info? >> -- > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thats no joke OK Don wrote: > We consider ourselves Western - we fight on any side we feel like -- > However, today, we are blowing North into Kansas. > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> oklahoma is traditionally considered southern, btw. the injuns was s

Re: [MBZ] my car dealer story for the day

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh, I dont need it that bad, I told them to call me if they had a change of heart Hendrik & Fay wrote: > C'mon Kaleb you now the routine, dealer is always gonna start off high > and move down. > If you want it real bad you are going to have to cough up, if you wanna > take a chance let them ste

Re: [MBZ] VW Diesel vs Prius

2008-06-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
Just one BIG spark. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Diesel vs Prius If you designed them so

Re: [MBZ] SHO moto

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I thought I read at the time that Mercury Marine was involved in production > of the Yamaha developed 3.4L SHO V-6 (not V-8) and the HP was 235. That's not > very impressive considering the 3.0 V6 in my C300 is rated at 228hp. Mercury Marine is General Motors, so the 3.4

Re: [MBZ] SHO moto

2008-06-05 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Yamaha was supposed to design it, they ended up making the whole > powerplant. 220 hp at a time when the top Mustang V8 was about 225. > I thought I read at the time that Mercury Marine was involved in production of the Yamaha developed 3.4L SHO V-6 (not V-8) and the HP was 235. That's not

Re: [MBZ] Military Service - Was: America's Climate Security Act

2008-06-05 Thread Lee Einer
Zits break out. Wars are volitional. > Wars can break out at any time. The franchise came from > being _willing_ to be part of the spear, if required. > > Lee If you would be unloved and forgotten, be reasonable. - Kurt Vonnegut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] '07 R-320CDI dinged

2008-06-05 Thread Peter Frederick
That bites! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.co

[MBZ] '07 R-320CDI dinged

2008-06-05 Thread Wilton Strickland
Free lance photographer son was covering a golf tournament yesterday; got back to his '07 R-320CDI in the parking lot. Some sorry hit-and-run S. O. etc. had crunched his left rear door getting in or out of a parking space beside him and left. Wilton ___ http:

Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
Gov'mnt of the rich, by the rich, for the rich - aren't many of us who would have a say in anything, other than shelling out the cash to keep the electorate in power. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'd like to see voting based on taxes paid - say, 1 vote f

Re: [MBZ] VW Diesel vs Prius

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
If you designed them so, they could be structural elements - big tubes of metal and dielectric material (plastic). maybe the whole body could be a capacitor sandwich! Imagine how the sparks would fly in an accident! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hmmm...co

Re: [MBZ] VW Diesel vs Prius

2008-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> Hmmm...could that be done with some honkin big capacitors? Might be > dangerous but so is petrol. They'd be ideal, if the energy density and cost were there. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.c

Re: [MBZ] booting off of a usb flash drive

2008-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> I use an HP48GX and love it! I have two one I leave by computer and > one I > carry around. I have one. I thought I'd like it, but I don't. The hexalator stuff is too hard to access. I really want a RPN 15C/16C hybrid. I'd buy a box full, if they were modestly priced. Stow 'em everywhere.

Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise

2008-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> I'd like to see voting based on taxes paid - say, 1 vote for every $1K > paid. > The more paid, the more votes. Not a bad way to limit their dip into your wallet. The most affected having the most say in it. What a concept... -- Jim ___ http://www.okieben

Re: [MBZ] OT Buick: diagnosing a mis-fire

2008-06-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Is the mixture correct? Any vacuum lines cracked while you were replacing the wires? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change deli

Re: [MBZ] OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he deserves

2008-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> This will allow use of the M1 and Bushmaster M4 and some others. Garand or carbine? Or otherwise? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise

2008-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> Perhaps a Walmart discount coupon would get more people to actually > partake in their democracy. A 37% turnout is hardly an acceptable > representation of the people. Heck no! I want to make it HARDER to vote, not easier. Only committed, passionate people need apply, in my view. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Military Service - Was: America's Climate Security Act

2008-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> - Not sure what being "equal" has to do with it. Not everyone ends > up on > the pointy end of the spear. The issue is the commitment to be a part > of > the spear. Wars can break out at any time. The franchise came from being _willing_ to be part of the spear, if required. > OBTW...Rober

Re: [MBZ] OT Buick: diagnosing a mis-fire

2008-06-05 Thread Rick Knoble
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:37 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I would be tempted to get plugs and wires from the dealer >> even though they may be more expensive. > > Me too, I've bought brand new plug wires that seemed decent quality > from FLAPS, only to find that they worked wors

Re: [MBZ] VW Diesel vs Prius

2008-06-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
Not a problem, just lean the flywheel onto the turn. Done right and this would be great for stability. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 6/5/08 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Diesel vs Prius That was a go

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
The US Army Field Artillery Center is at Ft. Sill, OK. The "whump" of the Howitzer shells North of Lawton blow the cobwebs out of anything with that large a bore. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about field artillery? Or what about if you wanna clean

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
We consider ourselves Western - we fight on any side we feel like -- However, today, we are blowing North into Kansas. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oklahoma is traditionally considered southern, btw. the injuns was stars > and bars during the war, y'know

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
What about field artillery? Or what about if you wanna clean out the cobwebs on the 105mm gun in the Patton? Hendrik OK Don wrote: > Hey, we have private machine gun ranges here in OK (no man's land)! > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> i'm not reall

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Hurst
oklahoma is traditionally considered southern, btw. the injuns was stars and bars during the war, y'know. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, we have private machine gun ranges here in OK (no man's land)! > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Act

2008-06-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Well this begs the question, what exactly qualifies one for the position of Presidency? Is is honesty, integrity, toughness, the ability to compromise, looking good on TV, great social skills, having rich mates, or what? End of the day the President is just a mouth piece for the real powers. We

Re: [MBZ] limp mode?

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
Way too new car for most of us to have CD for --- > Is this on the 140 cd, looks > like it might. Anybody have this info? > -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber)

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
Hey, we have private machine gun ranges here in OK (no man's land)! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'm not really familiar with that part of the world. i guess i just presume > that as the northeast and midwest absolutly stifle even talk of freedom, the > w

Re: [MBZ] here you go, Bill R. a British muscle car

2008-06-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
Oh, the humanity! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once again the US laws have managed to take a great looking car and > turned it into a bumper car, just need the power pole mounted on the > boot lid. > > Hendrik > whose Uncle once had one of these money

Re: [MBZ] my car dealer story for the day

2008-06-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
C'mon Kaleb you now the routine, dealer is always gonna start off high and move down. If you want it real bad you are going to have to cough up, if you wanna take a chance let them stew for a while. Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > So I noticed that one of the local big box chevy dealers had

Re: [MBZ] limp mode?

2008-06-05 Thread Wilton Strickland
" may well need a service reset tool." 'Increases stealer's billable hours. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] limp mode? > In the good ole days it was a matt

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security

2008-06-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Sometimes it is a matter of taking a little bit of pain now or a whole lot more further down the line. Hendrik Donald Snook wrote: > Kaleb wrote: "I have been trying to find this out too. Nobody seems to have > a real answer. Its always he will change things. Well, what will he change, > an

Re: [MBZ] Military Service - Was: America's Climate Security Act

2008-06-05 Thread Royce Engler
Randy said... Ah, but there is serving in the military and then there is serving in the military. Things are much more dangerous in times of war. There have been lots of folks who served in peace time and were at little risk. Even some now have nice desk jobs at home and no real chance of a visit

[MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-05 Thread Wilton Strickland
Top row of switches on center console is out! 'Just went back out to car and immediately saw that the switches are held in place by little cotter-pin-tail-looking springs at top and bottom. 'Squeezed a set of 'em together with needle nose pliers, and switch comes out allowing removal of the rest

Re: [MBZ] limp mode?

2008-06-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
In the good ole days it was a matter of disconnecting the battery and performing a magic dance around the car three times and then reconnect the battery but the more modern beasts may well need a service reset tool. Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > If you remember I replaced the throttle body

Re: [MBZ] here you go, Bill R. a British muscle car

2008-06-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Once again the US laws have managed to take a great looking car and turned it into a bumper car, just need the power pole mounted on the boot lid. Hendrik whose Uncle once had one of these money pits, which really did not like the Aussie summers but loved to be pampered inside a workshop Mitc

Re: [MBZ] Mature

2008-06-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Well it might have been "y all play nice or else" but the underlying message was that we should keep it civil. Hendrik who is neither civil or mature [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> ..A while back Kaleb announced that he would tolerate 'mature' political >> discussion... >> >> > Ohmygoodness.

[MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-05 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Can't get rear window heater switch on upper center console out of the way so I can remove this row of switches. 'Looks like the switch is released by squeezing on top and bottom of if, which is what I've been doing. 'Just realized, though, that I may need to squeeze on the switch immediately B

[MBZ] limp mode?

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you remember I replaced the throttle body/idle control on my E420, and since then it was idling too fast. Well for the most part it idles correct, but sometimes idles too fast. Also, will not go over 4k rpm. Im thinking its in some kind of limp mode and needs to be rest. Searching the 124

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm not really familiar with that part of the world. i guess i just presume that as the northeast and midwest absolutly stifle even talk of freedom, the west joins with california and does the same. good to hear that this is not so! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECT

[MBZ] 140 cd?

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im trying to do some diagnosing on the check engine stuff on my E420. Looks like the info is on the 140 manual. Anybody have this? I dont think I do. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,

Re: [MBZ] OT Buick: diagnosing a mis-fire

2008-06-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:37 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would be tempted to get plugs and wires from the dealer > even though they may be more expensive. Me too, I've bought brand new plug wires that seemed decent quality from FLAPS, only to find that they worked worse than the

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wherever that is, it ain't in california, a state as repressive and > oppressive as any. is it some forgotten desert in new mexico perhaps? > California doesn't count. It may as well be its own country for all the attention

Re: [MBZ] my car dealer story for the day

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
And you can buy it for a reasonable price then, drive it a few years (or months?) and trade it to one of us :-) On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh I didnt really think they would be smart enough to go for it. In the > general car market today, most f

Re: [MBZ] service CD index

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thanks!! OK Don wrote: > You can also open file explorer, and navigate to \program\matrix.htm > > The problem is that the code on the CD doesn't recognize the recent > versions of Acrobat - it's stuck in time back when the CD was first > produced. If you just go straight to matrix.htm, it works

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
I still have my 12 ga. and 20 ga. Lee loaders - loaded LOT of shotgun shells with it. Seems it was dirt cheap at the time ('70s). A friend had one for 30-06 that we used during deer season. I hink I still have several pounds of #5 shot (lead) and herco powder - wonder if it's any good now? -- OK

Re: [MBZ] OT Buick: diagnosing a mis-fire

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
Just because the wires are new, doesn't mean that the connectors are all good - could be a connector on the coil end - got pulled a little too much (for it's marginal condition) when you replaced the coil, or corrected 4 and 6. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, da

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Good point about Canada. If they don't have dirt cheap shotgun shells in every Walmart and sporting goods store up there, you sure don't want to cross the border with a case of ammo in an attempt to save a few $$. Curt likes MEC, I find a Lee Load-All to be plenty adequate for $40-50. You might

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Hurst
there is not a school system in the land that is not drunk with the power of their complete victory and acting accordingly On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary Hurst wrote: > > in the south, your right to self preservation is understood even by the > > gov

Re: [MBZ] service CD index

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
You can also open file explorer, and navigate to \program\matrix.htm The problem is that the code on the CD doesn't recognize the recent versions of Acrobat - it's stuck in time back when the CD was first produced. If you just go straight to matrix.htm, it works normally. I copy them to the hard

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: > in the south, your right to self preservation is understood even by the > government. That's why in Georgia they charge high school kids with felonies when their mothers put swiss army knives in the family cars. (mom saw a TV special on car safety, and it was recommended to kee

Re: [MBZ] my car dealer story for the day

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh I didnt really think they would be smart enough to go for it. In the general car market today, most folks would rather have the gas car than the diesel because diesel is more expensive. Flawed thinking but thats the facts. Im sure they wont be able to get that car sold so Im sure they wil

Re: [MBZ] my car dealer story for the day

2008-06-05 Thread OK Don
"they would be getting a nicer car to sell, I would be getting a diesel I want." Told you so --- "I just love car dealers!!" You didn't expect that treatment when you drove up??? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli a

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Hurst
wherever that is, it ain't in california, a state as repressive and oppressive as any. is it some forgotten desert in new mexico perhaps? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the s

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security

2008-06-05 Thread R A Bennell
Yeah, beware of change. It does not always mean that things will be better - just different, and sometimes worse. We had all better hope for the best as he is likely the next president. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sen

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread R A Bennell
I think I would rather that the hoodlums have to buy guns from each other in alleys than just be able to go to a local store and stock up. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:13 PM To: Mercedes D

Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Bill R
I saw and had a ride in a Lada when I was in Cuba [Ministry of Tourism vehicle I think]. Not impressive to say the least, but they were thought to be a step up from a Moscovich [sp?]. It only broke down once on the way to dinner, and was repaired quickly by some fuse box wiring with a coil of wir

Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
My uncle had one years ago. I think it was the fiat 166 they licensed. Rusty steel but great heaters! (go figure) He had his for years and liked it. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] OT Buick: diagnosing a mis-fire

2008-06-05 Thread R A Bennell
What sort of plugs and wires did you use? I have had little or no luck with many aftermarket plugs lately. I have since steered away from things like Bosch Platinum plugs. I would be tempted to get plugs and wires from the dealer even though they may be more expensive. I guess the other thing I

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the south has always been and remains the home of freedom in the USA. > thoroughly maligned and utterly disenfranchised, the southerner can still > takes solace is his liberty. Aw, Hursty, you always misunderestimate the rura

Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I don't think we had them but the UK sure did. Check on Youtube for the one where the Top Gear guys have some company (I forget a division of Lotus maybe?) that soups up some guy's Lada. Very cool. -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:51:26 -0500 From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Ahh I forgot you were in Canada. In which case it might be worth pricing out reloading. A good reloader (Mec is a very popular brand) should be a couple hundred used, powder, primers, shot. Figure what you need for each load and then find out if its cheaper to buy pre-loaded. -Curt --- On Thu

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Hurst
that's maybe the main reason i doubt i'll ever leave the south. in much of the US, the idea is that the criminals can be armed to the teeth and you must submit to this as you "cannot take the law into your own hands" and the citizens just lap it up and beg for more abuse (and they get it!). in th

Re: [MBZ] [vjmc] Petcock thread sealing compound

2008-06-05 Thread Curt Raymond
OH FOR PETE'S SAKE! Due for a different list. Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:55:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] [vjmc] Petcock thread sealing compound To: Diesel List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=u

[MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-05 Thread Wilton Strickland
BTW, my inst cluster had some spots of factory glue on top helping to hold it more firmly than uusual - 'didn't seem to be deliberate. Though most of the wires attached to the cluster have different shapes, I color-coded them with bright dots of different colors of artist's acrylic paints to aid re

[MBZ] OT: 50 Most memorable movie cars

2008-06-05 Thread Donald Snook
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/speed_racer/news/1726473/1.php?pic Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Depends on where you are I guess. They've still got loads of gun stuff at ours. Or they did 6 months ago when I was there last. -Curt --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give hi

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: > > that one could buy without question. Good thing it is not like that now given > the growth of the criminal element and their willingness to shoot each other, > us and cops. Yes, it is a good thing that only the criminal element can buy guns. Otherwise their jobs would be da

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread R A Bennell
I think you probably could back a time. Canadian Tire used to have huge pallets of them as well as cheap shotguns that one could buy without question. Good thing it is not like that now given the growth of the criminal element and their willingness to shoot each other, us and cops. Randy -O

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Hurst
i've always just been happy with factory ammo. plus, there is so much choice for the more popular sizes it's hard not to find something you really like. about the only round i use that i feel i don't have enough options is .44 special, but there is still enough to keep me happy. On Thu, Jun 5, 2

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Loren Faeth
MEC get yours at gander Mountain or find a used reloader on craigslist. Herters used to be good too. Only thing that ever made me nervous was setting the primer. Obviously you nave to be sure you have the correct charging par for the powder you use. I liked reloading Winchester AA cases th

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread E M
I don't think you could ever buy shells at Walmart in Canada? Ed 300E 2008/6/5 Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sure but last I checked there was no money in it shells were cheaper at > Wal-Mart... > > -Curt > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:51:44 -0400 > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: > > Did you folks down south ever have the Lada? No Lada, Innocenti, Trabant, etc. The only little cars we got were the Suzuki Swift/Sprint/Metro/Firefly (although the only time I actually saw a Firefly I was in Ontario) and the Yugo. Oh, we also had the Ford Festiva and the B

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Hurst
they shut them down here maybe 2 years ago On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Atlanta it probably is. > They've been closing their urban gun departments, but I think they still > sell them here. > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > > > walmart is out of the gun busin

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
In Atlanta it probably is. They've been closing their urban gun departments, but I think they still sell them here. Gary Hurst wrote: > > walmart is out of the gun business, no? > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sure but last I checked there was

Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread R A Bennell
Did you folks down south ever have the Lada? Essentially an outdated Fiat made in the USSR. I understand the metal was so poor that it could not be taken apart and put back together because the threads would not stand it. We had them here for a while many years back but I have not seen one in a l

Re: [MBZ] here you go, Bill R.

2008-06-05 Thread Bill R
Perhaps some day, and I think the 350 conversion is a good idea at this point, but I wouldn't have a dark car down here - way too hot even with my white one. The good news is that my 300SD is doing wonderfully with the new motor mounts. Not only did the odd noises go away [engine mount to frame],

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Hurst
walmart is out of the gun business, no? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure but last I checked there was no money in it shells were cheaper at > Wal-Mart... > > -Curt > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:51:44 -0400 > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: R

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: > > I know one thing he said he will change. He had promised to end the Bush tax > cuts. That is not the kind of change I want to support. In my lifetime, Demonrats have stood for more government, less freedom, and more taxes. Since 1988, Repugnants have stood for more gove

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no, me neither. Donald Snook wrote: > Kaleb wrote: "I have been trying to find this out too. Nobody seems to have > a real answer. Its always he will change things. Well, what will he change, > and how? And at what cost? I see many reasons why he would not be a good > president, none that

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security

2008-06-05 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: "I have been trying to find this out too. Nobody seems to have a real answer. Its always he will change things. Well, what will he change, and how? And at what cost? I see many reasons why he would not be a good president, none that says he would be." I know one thing he said

Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise

2008-06-05 Thread Donald Snook
Max wrote: Donald, thanks for correcting me. There is no right to vote in the ORIGINAL constitution nor in the bill of rights, but there are some amendments and those amendments that say it is illegal to restrict voting based on sex/race/previous condition of servitude/age (after age 18) . . .

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he

2008-06-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Sure but last I checked there was no money in it shells were cheaper at Wal-Mart...   -Curt   Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:51:44 -0400 From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he     deserves To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Mess

Re: [MBZ] here you go, Bill R.

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Autozone engine? Side pipes? I can tolerate side pipes on a Stingray, but an XJS? Donald Snook wrote: > > What do you know? A jag with a 350 in it. > > http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/708760712.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official lis

Re: [MBZ] my car dealer story for the day

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I did, but it never hurts to try. I have had dealers trade book to book with me before. Back in the old days anyway. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Daddy told me once, "You don't go to a bordello to listen to the piano > player." > > In the same light, you don't go to a dealer pay wholesale.

Re: [MBZ] service CD index

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
THANKS!! Rich Thomas wrote: > http://web.mac.com/dakota/Mercedes/Indexes.html > > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> Isnt there a cd index around somewhere? I cant seem to get my CD's to >> work. Will they not work with Vista? When it goes to launch in IE, it >> ways it needs some adobe flash somet

Re: [MBZ] VW Diesel vs Prius

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Some models have that now, GM I think has it currently Donald Snook wrote: > Alex wrote: "How about a diesel with cylinder deactivation, like the Olds > 8-6-4? You'd just need a servo-controlled valve on top of each injector and > then they could be controlled individually based on load." > > I

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 31, Issue 21

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
able > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080605/7e4de378/attachment.bin > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Act

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have been trying to find this out too. Nobody seems to have a real answer. Its always he will change things. Well, what will he change, and how? And at what cost? I see many reasons why he would not be a good president, none that says he would be. Rich Thomas wrote: > I think I asked you

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Act

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Lets pray not Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > Obama / Richardson is a winning ticket. > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:01 PM, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> While I do my best to avoid discussing politics, here >> is my take on the current situation with the >> Democrats: >> >> > -- Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] that'll give him the mandate he deserves

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What double standard would you be referring to? I guess Im not following you. andrew strasfogel wrote: > You may recall that Kaleb warned me about interjecting political stuff that > raised the hackles of some on the list, but after that he has ignored all > the RW stuff. I don't mind his doubl

Re: [MBZ] that'll give him the mandate he deserves

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, so? Does your delete key not work? Politics is fine as long as flames do not break out. andrew strasfogel wrote: > We're pushing 50 percent political stuff. Where's the moderator? > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Glenn Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And that's how GWB felt abo

Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Act

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Hitler also promised to change things, look how that turned out. Mitch Haley wrote: > Rolf, when you "look forward to Obama as POTUS", is that just a prediction, > or something you wish for? The only optomism I now feel for this race is > the possibility that the Republicrat Party might get less t

Re: [MBZ] my car dealer story for the day

2008-06-05 Thread pm7088
Daddy told me once, "You don't go to a bordello to listen to the piano player." In the same light, you don't go to a dealer pay wholesale. But, I think you already knew that. Pete -- Original message -- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So I noti

[MBZ] here you go, Bill R.

2008-06-05 Thread Donald Snook
What do you know? A jag with a 350 in it. http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/708760712.html no affiliation Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[MBZ] my car dealer story for the day

2008-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So I noticed that one of the local big box chevy dealers had a 95 E300D running in our book. I have been wanting one of these so I figure I will go down and see about trading in my 94 E420. Keeping in mind that the E420 is several steps above the bottom of the line E300, I figured I would shoo

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