Re: [MBZ] AC reliability

2008-10-13 Thread Peter Frederick
With ACC it runs most of the time, even in the winter in warm days, so mine gets all the "exercise" it needs. That has not prevented dead o-rings, leaking evaporators, and dead compressors from front seal leakage. All AC systems eventually fail, automotive ones much faster due to the lack

Re: [MBZ] using HF ball joint tool for 124/201

2008-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey
So it will work with water pipes? Mine did. Can I buy some of those pipe adaptor things at lowes or whever to use for this? If so, what size do I need for the ball joints? Can you press them in AND out with the HF tool? Seems I have at least 2 cars that need them. I used large pipe nippl

Re: [MBZ] A/C controls

2008-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey
The way to do it would be to take out all the dodgy bits and replace them with a little programmable chip with proper sensors and > actuators. That's what the ACC III _is_! For any car that has the wretched Type II there's an equivalent with the Type III. (Except, sadly the 116 I think.) So y

Re: [MBZ] OT: Corkscrews (no politics or MB)

2008-10-13 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Tom, Maybe you can find the right one here http://www.corkscrew.com/ Take care, Chuck On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:01 PM, tom savage wrote: Anyone have any recommendations for a really high quality wine bottle opener? Maybe something like the professionals in fancy restaurants use. It i

Re: [MBZ] AC reliability

2008-10-13 Thread Christopher McCann
A/C maintenance: you should run your A/C at least once a month even in the winter to keep components lubricated. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ..It's all in the maintenance!... > No, it isn't. It's the design plus quality of the components. And just what "maintenance" can you do on an AC s

Re: [MBZ] AC reliability

2008-10-13 Thread RELNGSON
> ..It's all in the maintenance!... > No, it isn't. It's the design plus quality of the components. And just what "maintenance" can you do on an AC system, anyway? Evap or compressor or pushbutton failures are not preventable by the owner. RLE > > ** New MapQuest Local shows w

Re: [MBZ] Radio/CD problem

2008-10-13 Thread LarryT
You were right - ;-) - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio/CD problem Simplest -- loose connector cable between the two units? Harder -- something came loose inside

Re: [MBZ] Radio/CD problem

2008-10-13 Thread LarryT
Got the tape deck and CD player working (actually my wife did) - she pushed the wires into their connections so they'd make good contact - and viola! Everything works. Oh happy day!!\ One of the wires/connections musta came loose enuf to cause a problem --- ;-) LarryT - Original Message -

Re: [MBZ] OT: Corkscrews (no politics or MB)

2008-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: Whoa - at that price, it should at least have a three pointed star on top --- 25 years ago it was $50, and I could get the gold plated version for $295. Now it's $180+ for the plain one, and I just found a gold one on fleabay for $1475 buy it now. Could be worse I guess. I boug

Re: [MBZ] OT: Corkscrews (no politics or MB)

2008-10-13 Thread OK Don
Whoa - at that price, it should at least have a three pointed star on top --- On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > tom savage wrote: >> >> Anyone have any recommendations for a really high quality wine bottle >> opener? > > Campagnolo. > http://www.lickbike.co

Re: [MBZ] OT: Corkscrews (no politics or MB)

2008-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley
tom savage wrote: Anyone have any recommendations for a really high quality wine bottle opener? Campagnolo. http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.asp?PART_NUM_SUB='3809-00' ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymb

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Gary Hurst
dude, just because i'm a fat crazy guy doesn't mean i like to be around others of the same ilk. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK - you left yourself open for this -- > > You should fit right in! > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Gary Hurst
you can now carry on the public transport in georgia. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you pack on the bus in your neck of the woods? In Houston they passed > a law saying you could carry on the Ghettro, sorta even things up for the > casual rider.

Re: [MBZ] I sure am glad that Obama is talking about important things

2008-10-13 Thread andrew strasfogel
Reagan was in a class by himself, and I don't mean that as a compliment. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:56 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the same league as Reagan? > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, andrew strasfogel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He's quite a gifted performer, don't

[MBZ] OT: Corkscrews (no politics or MB)

2008-10-13 Thread tom savage
Anyone have any recommendations for a really high quality wine bottle opener? Maybe something like the professionals in fancy restaurants use. It is for a gift; I prefer my wine in box form. Thanks, Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see officia

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Can you pack on the bus in your neck of the woods? In Houston they passed a law saying you could carry on the Ghettro, sorta even things up for the casual rider. --R OK Don wrote: OK - you left yourself open for this -- You should fit right in! On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Gary Hurst <

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Gas Prices

2008-10-13 Thread andrew strasfogel
Diesel plummeted to $3.99/gal in NW DC recently. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:44 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No - it's a world market - not a US market. Just because it's produced > here doesn't mean that it will be sold here. That's why all the "drill > now" rheteric is BS. > > > http:

Re: [MBZ] I sure am glad that Obama is talking about important things

2008-10-13 Thread OK Don
In the same league as Reagan? On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's quite a gifted performer, don't you think? > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games

Re: [MBZ] I sure am glad that Obama is talking about important things

2008-10-13 Thread andrew strasfogel
He's quite a gifted performer, don't you think? On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZOxqVl5oP4 > > > Donald H. Snook > 1990 Volvo 240DL > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see of

Re: [MBZ] I sure am glad that Obama is talking about important things

2008-10-13 Thread Hendrik & Fay
That reminds me of those Bill Cosby routines except Obama ain't as funny. Hendrik Donald Snook wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZOxqVl5oP4 Donald H. Snook 1990 Volvo 240DL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread OK Don
OK - you left yourself open for this -- You should fit right in! On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > rolf, it's hard to ride the damn bus once you get a car. it's slow. it > sucks. your fellow passengers are mostly children and the criminally > insane. > -

Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq

2008-10-13 Thread OK Don
It's a religious war - and religion, by definition, has no use for logic. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and why is the governance of iraq our business? are we simply going to > attack everyone we don't like as mrs palin seems to wish? why should i be >

Re: [MBZ] Hubcaps for sale

2008-10-13 Thread tom savage
Mitch Haley wrote: Deleted by author. He sold them already? The ad was almost a month old, but was up until I sent him an email asking if he had any other 300 or 170 parts. I guess he doesn't. The ad was for a nice set of 15" chromed hubcaps for an Adenauer. $1400. Tom _

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Gas Prices

2008-10-13 Thread OK Don
No - it's a world market - not a US market. Just because it's produced here doesn't mean that it will be sold here. That's why all the "drill now" rheteric is BS. http://budz.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/us-oil-firms-seek-drilling-access-but-exports-soar/ ANALYSIS-US oil firms seek drilling access, b

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Gary Hurst
rolf, it's hard to ride the damn bus once you get a car. it's slow. it sucks. your fellow passengers are mostly children and the criminally insane. you get to stand out in the rain. mass transit sucks. some places, you don't have much choice. if you work in manhattan, where you gonna put you

Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study

2008-10-13 Thread Gary Hurst
same here. i can't wait till it gets under 80 so i can drive my 280CE beater again which i am now driving all the time again. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haven't had a 124 yet, but nothing can be worse than either type of AC that > was in 123's.

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread OK Don
Yes - regular unleaded is $3.19 in Disney town (Orlando?) today glad I'm riding the shuttle buses! > Can we keep it more on topic? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '

Re: [MBZ] Hubcaps for sale

2008-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley
tom savage wrote: These make the $300 bundts like like a bargain: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/818977899.html Deleted by author. He sold them already? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study

2008-10-13 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But I bet a 2005 Toyota is a lot more likely to have functioning A/C > than a 1987 Benz. Well yeah, but so is a 2005 Benz. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:

Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study

2008-10-13 Thread OK Don
It's all in the maintenance! On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wilton Strickland wrote: >> >> Yeah, my '87 MB 300D is 22 years old, and I think it's VERY dependanble - >> 'put it against a 3 year old Lexus any time. > > But I bet a 2005 Toyota is a lot more

[MBZ] Hubcaps for sale

2008-10-13 Thread tom savage
These make the $300 bundts like like a bargain: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/818977899.html Although, if they're genuine Adenauer caps, it may not be so bad after all. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.b

Re: [MBZ] using HF ball joint tool for 124/201

2008-10-13 Thread rusty
All our parts have a one year warranty, call me tomorrow. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:12:34 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] using HF ball joint tool for 124/201 Just an F

Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq

2008-10-13 Thread Gary Hurst
and why is the governance of iraq our business? are we simply going to attack everyone we don't like as mrs palin seems to wish? why should i be paying for this? and, again, why do they keep trying to kill us given what a big favor we did for them "saving" them from their former despot? if they

Re: [MBZ] using HF ball joint tool for 124/201

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Just an FYI, I took my 123 knuckle to a Benz garage, there an old Italian mech stuck it in a vise and proceeded to beat the hell out of it with a BF ball peen hammer until the offending item popped out. Subtle yet effective, with a ringing melodious sound. I said, "I coulda done that!" I gue

Re: [MBZ] using HF ball joint tool for 124/201

2008-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Got ya. Guess I can just take a new joint down to the store and buy something that fits I guess. Peter Frederick wrote: Going in the adapters fit. Coming out you need something to push the ball joint out of the control arm -- all the included sleeves are too large to fit into the hole. We

Re: [MBZ] using HF ball joint tool for 124/201

2008-10-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Going in the adapters fit. Coming out you need something to push the ball joint out of the control arm -- all the included sleeves are too large to fit into the hole. We use a pile of bearing retainer clamps -- anything that fits over the ball joint stud and through the hole will work, you

Re: [MBZ] 60x trans vacuum adjustment

2008-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Anybody got the procedure for setting the vacuum correctly for the trans on 60x cars? I thought you took the vac line off and adjusted the modulator until you got the right shift feel at full throttle, then play with the vcv throttle linkage until it works ok at part

[MBZ] using HF ball joint tool for 124/201

2008-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So it will work with water pipes? Can I buy some of those pipe adaptor things at lowes or whever to use for this? If so, what size do I need for the ball joints? Can you press them in AND out with the HF tool? Seems I have at least 2 cars that need them. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 9

Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq

2008-10-13 Thread Allan Streib
"Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i believe that if you can fight the civil war and two world wars in 4 > years, it shouldn't take you any longer to liberate iraq. It took only a short time to eradicate the former regime in Iraq. It takes much longer to ensure a stable replacement gover

[MBZ] 60x trans vacuum adjustment

2008-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Anybody got the procedure for setting the vacuum correctly for the trans on 60x cars? Think I need to adjust the VCV on the IP but dont know the specs and procedure. I know how to do it on 61x cars, but not these. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E,

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Gas Prices

2008-10-13 Thread Joe Sasser
Here in SE TX (literally surrounded by refineries) I paid $71 to fill up my 300SD last week ($3.94/gal)! When we all know it should be around $0.75¢ instead. There's absolutely no reason for diesel to be so high, other than pure greed. Joe Sasser On Oct 13, 2008, at 2:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Kevin
This sounds more like a discussion of communist redistribution of wealth than it does mercedes (or even car) related discussions. Can we keep it more on topic? On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 06:10:21PM -0400, Rich Thomas wrote: > We need to subsidize hybrids for everyone earning <$40k/yr too -- the > w

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
We need to subsidize hybrids for everyone earning <$40k/yr too -- the wealthy can afford to assist them with their Fair Share. Many other things should also be FREE, including public transportation, with the wealthy paying more of their Fair Share to provide those benefits. We should rewar

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Loren Faeth
Rich was doing a parody.My platform is a MB Diesel in every garage and a chicken in every pot. At 04:32 PM 10/13/2008, you wrote: Do what? Pardon me, but perhaps you have not thought this through thoroughly. What kind of cars do you think the avg sub 40k/yr person is driving? It sure isn't

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Rolf
Do what? Pardon me, but perhaps you have not thought this through thoroughly. What kind of cars do you think the avg sub 40k/yr person is driving? It sure isn't going to be a hybrid. In fact, given the depreciation on gas guzzlers, they are more likely to use more gas than those making more. What

Re: [MBZ] Stupid weather - thanks John

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Non-linear (or marginally-linear) systems are like that. Some airplanes are like that, and like to get away from their pilots. The new fighters need electronic controls to constantly correct their instabilities. I am sure there are considerable aspects to climate modeling that have some pret

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
That's horrible. People will be flocking back to large gas-guzzling SUVs now, and will be using more gas and driving up global temperatures. We need gas to stabilize at a much higher price, with rebates for working people who earn less than $40k/yr so they can drive to work! I have a Plan o

Re: [MBZ] Wonko: Was: W124 question

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Plant some acorns while you are there, they grow into big oaks. --R Donald Snook wrote: Lt Don wrote: "Like in Florida in 2000? [All I'm gonna say on the subject.]" The McCain campaign believes that Colorado is this year's Florida. In fact they asked me to go to Denver for 5 days (3 days bef

[MBZ] I sure am glad that Obama is talking about important things

2008-10-13 Thread Donald Snook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZOxqVl5oP4 Donald H. Snook 1990 Volvo 240DL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Wonko: Was: W124 question

2008-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: The McCain campaign believes that Colorado is this year's Florida. I thought most of the population lived in/around Denver and Boulder and voted as far left as possible. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official li

Re: [MBZ] Stupid weather - thanks John

2008-10-13 Thread John Robbins
Bill R wrote: Thanks for the information John. It does help to know how some of this stuff is done. Not a problem! :) I don't claim to be an expert in the field, but lately my line of work has been simulating/modeling vehicles. Things like designing a control strategy for hybrids (when do

Re: [MBZ] Stupid weather - thanks John

2008-10-13 Thread Bill R
Thanks for the information John. It does help to know how some of this stuff is done. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stupid weather

[MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-13 Thread Donald Snook
I was in Springfield, Missouri this weekend and paid $2.49 for gas. It didn't seem so bad that I was driving the Expedition rather than the Volvo. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

Re: [MBZ] Wonko: Was: W124 question

2008-10-13 Thread Donald Snook
Lt Don wrote: "Like in Florida in 2000? [All I'm gonna say on the subject.]" The McCain campaign believes that Colorado is this year's Florida. In fact they asked me to go to Denver for 5 days (3 days before the election, election day and the day after). I am flying there as part of "Lawyers fo

Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq

2008-10-13 Thread Donald Snook
Gary wrote: "zionist neocons" I know you have these crazy ideas that are not based on any reality that I am aware of, but can you please explain this term for me? I know how neo-con is used and I have heard Zionist used and no that most people who are using it are also usually anti-isreali. So

Re: [MBZ] A/C controls

2008-10-13 Thread John Robbins
Rich Thomas wrote: The way to do it would be to take out all the dodgy bits and replace them with a little programmable chip with proper sensors and actuators. Wasn't someone looking at doing that? That'd be me! If you're interested I've got all kinds of actuator chips to drive relays, etc.

Re: [MBZ] A/C controls

2008-10-13 Thread John Robbins
Here is an off the shelf solution: http://unwiredtools.com/accii.asp Robert Rentfro wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3k5y9v Like that? Anyone using this? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

Re: [MBZ] A/C controls

2008-10-13 Thread John Robbins
That would be my senior design site. :) That project got to the point where all that was left was putting it in the box, re-wiring, and debugging in-vehicle (was done on bench... but that doesn't mean much). After the class was over though, I totally crashed. 100-120 hour weeks for 2-3 month

Re: [MBZ] Stupid weather

2008-10-13 Thread John Robbins
LarryT wrote: Seems like there would be a basic flaw in the logic of doing that - a self-perpetuating error IMO. Each year can be way off from the projection - so it gets refined - and the next year year can be way off - and on and on. Each year is so unique - each decade and each century als

Re: [MBZ] A/C controls

2008-10-13 Thread Robert Rentfro
http://tinyurl.com/3k5y9v Like that? Anyone using this? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C controls The way to do it would be

Re: [MBZ] A/C controls

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
The way to do it would be to take out all the dodgy bits and replace them with a little programmable chip with proper sensors and actuators. Wasn't someone looking at doing that? I really doubt if it would be that hard to do if you knew some programming and electronics. I am trying to learn

Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study

2008-10-13 Thread LarryT
I love the AC and the ACC in my '91 300D (after living with a W123 for 20 years) - thankfully I haven't had any problems but so far they work great. Larry - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:51 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study

2008-10-13 Thread pm7088
-- Original message -- From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Haven't had a 124 yet, but nothing can be worse than either type of AC that > was in 123's. That is what stinks about 123s in the desert. They're a notch > above having a bone stock '67 Beetle or a

Re: [MBZ] Stupid weather

2008-10-13 Thread LarryT
Hi John, you wrote << predict the temperature for next year, measure that, and compare. If there is a difference you continue to fine tune the model.>> Seems like there would be a basic flaw in the logic of doing that - a self-perpetuating error IMO. Each year can be way off from the projectio

Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study

2008-10-13 Thread Robert Rentfro
Haven't had a 124 yet, but nothing can be worse than either type of AC that was in 123's. That is what stinks about 123s in the desert. They're a notch above having a bone stock '67 Beetle or a '64 Squareback. Bob R In love with my 123 again, since is was 46 degrees this morning. -Original M

Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study

2008-10-13 Thread Gary Hurst
y'know, those 124 ACs seem ok to me. 123 and 115s aren't worth a damn and just a waste of time and money messing with. that being said, i drive a 123 as a daily driver. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wilton Strickland wrote: > >> Yeah, my '87 MB 300D

Re: [MBZ] Stupid weather

2008-10-13 Thread John Robbins
DISCLAIMER: I am not making any statement about global warming, just clarifying a computer modeling issue. Yes, I'm that anal... I don't think anyone's noticed yet though ;) Max Dillon wrote: To my knowledge, none of the computer models used to "prove" this BS can pass the most simple of test

Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq - what is war

2008-10-13 Thread Wilton Strickland
Amen, again. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq - what is war > OK, I ignored the stuff about Bush and some other silly comments > about the elect

Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study

2008-10-13 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Don't see how it or any could work any better than mine - now. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (not politics) Vehicle Dependability Study > Wilton Stricklan

Re: [MBZ] Wonko: Was: W124 question

2008-10-13 Thread Luther
I predict that you will die before you "get over it". z Wonko the Sane wrote: I will "get over it" when our nation is once again viewed by other nations as a shining light of integrity, a people to be trusted rather than feared. Right now, we are the low-IQ grade-repeating neighborhood bully w

Re: [MBZ] Radio/CD problem

2008-10-13 Thread kaleb
Almost sounds like something with the trunk unit (not the amp) if the volume works with the radio but not cd or tape. Could also be the head unit I suppose. Most of the time you get no sound at all and its the amp that is bad. > My Wife had an odd problem today. She reports the CD no longer

Re: [MBZ] OT __ Who was making prunes?

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't know, I have had some of that stuff from eastern Europe and it is mighty tasty stuff (and will set you down and make ya holla!). --R Jim Cathey wrote: http://www.instructables.com/id/Plum-Wine/ Waste of a good prune, if you ask me! -- Jim ___ ht

Re: [MBZ] OT __ Who was making prunes?

2008-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey
http://www.instructables.com/id/Plum-Wine/ Waste of a good prune, if you ask me! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Radio/CD problem

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Simplest -- loose connector cable between the two units? Harder -- something came loose inside the unit, no sound signal getting to the amp from the CD or tape? --R LarryT wrote: My Wife had an odd problem today. She reports the CD no longer plays (it worked when last used) and now we

[MBZ] OT __ Who was making prunes?

2008-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.instructables.com/id/Plum-Wine/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listi

[MBZ] Radio/CD problem

2008-10-13 Thread LarryT
My Wife had an odd problem today. She reports the CD no longer plays (it worked when last used) and now we learned the cassette player does not work either. The CD changer moves CDs in and out but there's no sound. Same for the cassette player - it accepts cassettes and seems to play the

Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq - what is war

2008-10-13 Thread Lee Einer
Well said, Bill. To that I would add, when natural resources are stolen out from under the feet of those third worlders, it is generally done legally. But those who are doing the stealing are also making the laws. It has been ever thus. Lee Bill R wrote: > OK, I ignored the stuff about Bus

Re: [MBZ] Stupid weather

2008-10-13 Thread LarryT
you wrote > There are huge numbers of grants being financed by the global warming scam - lots of govt (i.e., *OUR*) money being used for this research. That's always bothered me - and it shows the news reader's true nature when he/she s ays "govt money".rather than "taxpayer fundi

Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq (Hendrik & Fay)

2008-10-13 Thread Max Dillon
"Soldiers pointing weapons at civilians happens in just about every conflict, all you can really hope for is that the soldiers retain enough professionalism to not shoot first and think later. Sure we all like the image of the jolly green giants handing out chocolate to the kids but this is not

[MBZ] Stupid weather

2008-10-13 Thread Max Dillon
"The truth of the matter is that where I live has been covered with glaciers, and has also been a tropical paradise, all without any influence of humans. To believe that humans can control naturally occurring events is asinine. The truth of the matter is that where I live has been covered with

Re: [MBZ] OT - trouble in Iraq - what is war

2008-10-13 Thread Bill R
OK, I ignored the stuff about Bush and some other silly comments about the elections and FL [I was there and talked to some of the people involved, and will never quite trust our election process again.] I mentioned before that I was in Peshawar, Pakistan during those elections and was very