Re: [MBZ] how to tell mileage of car

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Fmiser wrote: > Upper joints:  grab the front bumper and shake the car > side-to-side while watching the upper balljoint for play. It's > tough to do the watching and shaking at the same time, so try to > bring a helper. > > Lower joints require a jack and a pry ba

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic

2009-08-11 Thread Fmiser
> Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Early 124 4matics where prone to problems but later versions > where better but best to avoid 4matics unless you have a real > need for that sort of thing. Like Curt Raymond and his complaining that a car isn't suitable for pulling a snowmobile trailer in the snow. -- P

Re: [MBZ] how to tell mileage of car

2009-08-11 Thread Fmiser
> Douglas wrote: > So I am looking for a car for my son to drive and have been > looking at letting him use mine '80 300D, or buying another. I > am leaning towards the later and my first mercedes was a '80 > 240D with a manny. Is there a was to tell the condition of the > clutch and or mileage of

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread kevin kraly
I'm going to have to save for quite a while, but it will probably be $4500to $5K at least if I want most everything on the car to work (paying up front). My 'SD had the bad AC, door lock pump and radio, but the body and interior were nice. It could have been a $2500 car with the above issues

[MBZ] OT: Phones

2009-08-11 Thread Jim Cathey
My cell phone spent the night in the ocean, washed up in the surf, and was turned in when I got it (dry) a day later. It's not happy now, and is residing in a tub of fresh water until I can figure out how/if I can get the pictures off of it. I'm fairly handy with electronics, but I can tell you

Re: [MBZ] Death by Smart

2009-08-11 Thread Greg Fiorentino
IIRC my freshman physics, the operant parameter in a collision is something called an impulse, which is imparted by the momentum of the colliding object. I think the momentum is equal to mass X velocity. Acceleration comes into play as deceleration when the energy is imparted to the collide. Gre

Re: [MBZ] had a brain flash (or brain fart) today

2009-08-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:43 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > I think they are in a warehouse in Pyongyang. You might need to take BJ > Clinton with you, and some tchatchkes for the Dear Leader. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tchatchke Tchotchke: originally from a Slavic word for "toys" (Polish cacka

Re: [MBZ] Death by Smart

2009-08-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:41:30 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Energy = MV^^2 > > Force = Mass X Acceleration Actually, Energy = 1/2 MV^2. > And acceleration can be quite large if a velocity is changed over a > short distance or time. Or it can be quite small if changed over a > large time or d

[MBZ] pictures of mogthra will be approved later

2009-08-11 Thread Mountain Man
I sent pics of the B1 Mogthra, but Regina is having Kaleb make dinner, I think. Regina - let Kaleb approve my mercedes post with pictures. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
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Re: [MBZ] how to tell mileage of car

2009-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
k at a car? Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090811/8b279663/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
huh? It was my understanding that the rebate from the gov was not in addition to trade, it took the place of the trade. This statement does not make a bit of sense anyway if you know anything about the car business. So what you are saying is the dealer paid 19k out of their pocket toward the

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You know what, I might be up in Wisconsin in the near future, that would get me somewhat closer. Mitch Haley wrote: kevin kraly wrote: I'm thinkin' something a bit newer next time, possibly a 1986-7 300SDL or a 1990-93 300D 2.5. Of course, I wouldn't turn down a nice '82-85 300TDt or 300CDt.

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: "How to ruin a perfectly good engine"

2009-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
that I have seen are pretty darn nice, with all the options, good shape and they are going cheap. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090811/d

Re: [MBZ] how to tell mileage of car

2009-08-11 Thread WILTON
k lower ball joints when you go look at a car? Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090811/8b279663/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] how to tell mileage of car

2009-08-11 Thread WILTON
is there a was to check lower ball joints when you go look at a car? Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090811/8b279663/attachment.html> ___

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: kevin kraly wrote: I'm thinkin' something a bit newer next time, possibly a 1986-7 300SDL or a 1990-93 300D 2.5. Of course, I wouldn't turn down a nice '82-85 300TDt or 300CDt. You can have my '92 2.5 turbo for $1000.

[MBZ] how to tell mileage of car

2009-08-11 Thread Douglas
As we all know the odometer does fail on these. Also is there a was to check lower ball joints when you go look at a car? Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2009

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread Wonko the Sane
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Re: [MBZ] O/T Concrete Mixer Trivia

2009-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas
And lime, you need lime. It goes well in the tonic. --R Hendrik & Fay wrote: Sand is an aggregate, you use concrete sand to make mortar. Sand and gravel mix makes concrete. Hendrik who has a lot of concreting coming up, both concrete and mortar Rich Thomas wrote: And sand, you need sand.

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic

2009-08-11 Thread Hendrik & Fay
It is a very complex system that diverts power to the front and rear as needed, together with a special diff it can also split the power between the rear wheels. Early 124 4matics where prone to problems but later versions where better but best to avoid 4matics unless you have a real need for th

Re: [MBZ] O/T Concrete Mixer Trivia

2009-08-11 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Sand is an aggregate, you use concrete sand to make mortar. Sand and gravel mix makes concrete. Hendrik who has a lot of concreting coming up, both concrete and mortar Rich Thomas wrote: And sand, you need sand. --R Hendrik & Fay wrote: Ahhh hah but I also mix up mortar in it and technically

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Russ Williams
They got 19 Grand for the tradin Plus the 4500 from the Gov'ment on the Prius. Price tag on the Loaded Prius was over 25 Grand he wouldn't tell me how much over 25 it was. Forgot to add in the original post Dealer has to pass on to the customer what he gets from the recycler. The Buyer has the po

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > kevin kraly wrote: >> >> I'm thinkin' something a bit newer next time, possibly a 1986-7 300SDL or >> a 1990-93 300D 2.5.  Of course, I wouldn't turn down a nice '82-85 300TDt or >> 300CDt. > > You can have my '92 2.5 turbo for $1000. > Isn't t

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley
kevin kraly wrote: I'm thinkin' something a bit newer next time, possibly a 1986-7 300SDL or a 1990-93 300D 2.5. Of course, I wouldn't turn down a nice '82-85 300TDt or 300CDt. You can have my '92 2.5 turbo for $1000. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com Fo

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread kevin kraly
I'm thinkin' something a bit newer next time, possibly a 1986-7 300SDL or a 1990-93 300D 2.5. Of course, I wouldn't turn down a nice '82-85 300TDt or 300CDt. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, between MB Diesels ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] had a brain flash (or brain fart) today

2009-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I think they are in a warehouse in Pyongyang. You might need to take BJ Clinton with you, and some tchatchkes for the Dear Leader. --R MG wrote: What Shipping! I'll go and pick it up. Or use that shipping site on the Internet. No big deal. Manfred Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:23:50 -0400 Fr

Re: [MBZ] Death by Smart

2009-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas
alked away and the doors even opened. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090811/e15ed0d6/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread WILTON
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Re: [MBZ] had a brain flash (or brain fart) today

2009-08-11 Thread MG
What Shipping! I'll go and pick it up. Or use that shipping site on the Internet. No big deal. Manfred Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:23:50 -0400 From: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] had a brain flash (or brain fart) today Well, shipping these days will kill you, but I'll see what I can do nex

[MBZ] 1983 300SD, She's Gone

2009-08-11 Thread kevin kraly
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Re: [MBZ] Death by Smart

2009-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond
ame from Kentucky so it doesn't have heated seats. Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090811/620ffe03/attachment.html> ___

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread WILTON
Well, maybe so, then, but I guess it really 'pends on what the revenuers are driving. :< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home WILTON wrote: Not e

Re: [MBZ] had a brain flash (or brain fart) today

2009-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond
iends can sit in the back! > http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/1311988170.html > > > -- > OK Don > Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okieben

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Not enough power and speed for a shine car, is it? ;<))) I don't know. A factory prepped car went something like 155 at Nardo, but the US car magazines quote the top speed somewhere in the mid 130s. I know if I floor it at 70mph in 5th, it doesn't take mine very long to send th

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread WILTON
Not enough power and speed for a shine car, is it? ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Peter T. Arnold" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home Mitch Haley wrote: My 190E came from Kentucky so

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Mitch Haley wrote: My 190E came from Kentucky so it doesn't have heated seats. Mitch. Did they leave the Shine Tanks in the trunk? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: [db] "How to ruin a perfectly good engine"

2009-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] Movie car

2009-08-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
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Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Gary Hurst
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Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Scott Ritchey wrote: Of course this program also means that someone that needs a car and can only afford to spend a few hundred dollars can no longer but one. You might think so, but the local supply of drivable cars under $2000 seems much better than a year ago. I think it's just the economy,

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Scott Ritchey
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[MBZ] Movie car

2009-08-11 Thread Donald Snook
pretty much destroying the car. What a shame. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090811/4598d822/attachment.html> __

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: [db] "How to ruin a perfectly good engine"

2009-08-11 Thread Donald Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Death by Smart

2009-08-11 Thread Donald Snook
Big truck accident a few years ago? IIRC, the 126 was smashed up, but everyone walked away and the doors even opened. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090811/d

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Donald Snook
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300 Diesel * - $5000

2009-08-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
>>> as hard once it gets rolling, so I can believe 10 sec or so is right >>> for it. >>> >>> Alex >>> passel of 124s >>> >>> >>> >>> -- next part -- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>&

Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300 Diesel * - $5000

2009-08-11 Thread winmutt
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300 Diesel * - $5000

2009-08-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
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Re: [MBZ] had a brain flash (or brain fart) today

2009-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, shipping these days will kill you, but I'll see what I can do next time I go to the drug store. --R MG wrote: Rich, Since you know where to get them could you buy one for me and I will gladly pay you $50.. No make that $100 for it. That's a great ROI on $5. Manfred Date: Mon, 10

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Wicked hard on the engine. Probably not quite as bad for that gasser as it is for your 240D though. What you really need to do is find a 190E with a bad engine and convert it to electric. Make it into a 190EV... Electrics are a PITA in an Iowa winter. You'll freeze your

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: This logic makes no sense, you get a car that gets 2-5 mpg better in order to save energy, right? How much energy goes into building that new car? Doesnt make a lot of sense now does it? If you're buying just to increase mpg, it's probably not a winning trade unless

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread WILTON
'Been trying to tell ya. ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home I just dont buy somebody would trade in a 07 powerstroke as a clunker in

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Benz 1978 300CD for sale

2009-08-11 Thread WILTON
Only 150kmi? 'Can advertise it as "low miles," then. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "harry watkins" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Brent McDonald" Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Benz 1978 300CD for sale The young man I bought the

Re: [MBZ] Death by Smart

2009-08-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
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Re: [MBZ] Adjusting the W123 injection pump dampener screw

2009-08-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
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Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] Not a clunker

2009-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, once sorted out, they are not bad Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/1313099545.html The only one of the infamous GM 350 diesels I've ever seen for sale near me! Wasn't the consensus on these that once the bugs were worked out, they weren't that bad, if properl

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just dont buy somebody would trade in a 07 powerstroke as a clunker in on a prius. The truck is worth more than 4500. Dealer is probably full of it, most of them are. Russ Williams wrote: According to a guy I know that's a Salesman at a local Toybox Dealer. The engines Must be Destroyed b

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Benz 1978 300CD for sale

2009-08-11 Thread harry watkins
The young man I bought the backhoe from has this MB for sale. He has more pictures that I removed to make it fit the list. Its located at Hanceville AL, about 40 miles north of Birmingham. He is not sure what he should ask for it, so someone help him out. I asked a few questions and got th

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Sure it will, but many of them still have a LONG way to go. Wonko the Sane wrote: Will not the car eventually be crushed anyway, in the future? It isn't a matter of if, it is a matter of when. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E,

Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
This logic makes no sense, you get a car that gets 2-5 mpg better in order to save energy, right? How much energy goes into building that new car? Doesnt make a lot of sense now does it? Wonko the Sane wrote: Heard a thing (CNN, I think) this weekend talking about this very thing. Some folk

[MBZ] Fw: Benz 1978 300CD for sale

2009-08-11 Thread harry watkins
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Re: [MBZ] had a brain flash (or brain fart) today

2009-08-11 Thread MG
Rich, Since you know where to get them could you buy one for me and I will gladly pay you $50.. No make that $100 for it. That's a great ROI on $5. Manfred Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:44:31 -0400 From: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] had a brain flash (or brain fart) today Buy some comics