Re: [MBZ] OT: oil view light

2009-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Purdue, grew up, er, rather, spent my first years in Fort Wayne. --R Rick Knoble wrote: From: "Rich Thomas" Earl Landgrebe, an incumbent who was running for Congress in the locale where I was in college Where did you attend college? Rick Knoble Portage. IN. '85 300CD '87 190DT ___

Re: [MBZ] trans swap?

2009-10-22 Thread Allan Streib
relng...@aol.com writes: >> ...And what about the driveshaft and its connection to the new >> transmission?... >> > And what about the gear ratios which would be totally unsuited to a low > power low torque diesel? The site says "There are many advantages to using this trans over the stock Mer

Re: [MBZ] OT: oil view light

2009-10-22 Thread Rick Knoble
From: "Rich Thomas" Earl Landgrebe, an incumbent who was running for Congress in the locale where I was in college Where did you attend college? Rick Knoble Portage. IN. '85 300CD '87 190DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www

Re: [MBZ] OT: oil view light

2009-10-22 Thread L. Mark Finch
Yep, we have us some doozies of politicians here in the Hoosier state -- Mark Finch 1982 300D (for sale) 1991 300E 2.6 1995 320E wagon On Thu, October 22, 2009 6:16 pm, Rich Thomas wrote: > Earl Landgrebe, an incumbent who was running for Congress in the locale > where I was in college, was

[MBZ] OT: oil view light

2009-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Earl Landgrebe, an incumbent who was running for Congress in the locale where I was in college, was recorded saying in some venue, "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up." He lost the election to the challenger, one Floyd Fithian. This says the quote was different "Don't confuse

Re: [MBZ] oil view light

2009-10-22 Thread tyler
I used to work in a shop that used similar strategies only more like this: 1) Air chisel 6" jagged flap in pan 2) Bend flap out of the way- INTO the oil pan 3) R&R oil pump 4) JB Weld soup can patch over hole in pan 5) Bill customer for a full engine rebuild or factory short block + book rat

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-22 Thread LarryT
Thx for the link - interesting - I guess the advantage of using a GM transmission is the low prices for new/rebuilt trannys and lower repair costs? I assume there are lots more "qualified" tranny technicians to work on them? Hmm... as long as there's plenty of used trannys (Kaleb?) it should b

Re: [MBZ] oil view light

2009-10-22 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I watched a fellow change the oil pump in a mid '60's Pontiac is about 45 minutes once. This was a huge flat rate job as R&R of engine was required per the book. Car had -0- oil pressure, might have a junk short block? Do you change oil pump? Rebuild engine? Car was about 5 years old. Th

Re: [MBZ] Just far enough away

2009-10-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Well it's not too far from Curt. Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:10 PM To: Mercedes Discus

Re: [MBZ] oil view light

2009-10-22 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Yeah that would work well with all that black oil in there... > Don't confuse me with facts. Makes about as much sense as the original idea which is the whole point. Or, pernt as they say in Weehawken. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread ned kleinhenz
Absolutely! Ned <> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Just far enough away

2009-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
That car would be cool to drive just as it is, with the random bits stuck back on. A Benz rat rod. --R R A Bennell wrote: Remember the darly Toyota pickup trucks? I had a 1970 HiLux with the fender mounted turn signals. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Just far enough away

2009-10-22 Thread R A Bennell
Remember the darly Toyota pickup trucks? I had a 1970 HiLux with the fender mounted turn signals. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussio

Re: [MBZ] Vac and heating troubles

2009-10-22 Thread Chris N John
Jim Cathey wrote: They're color-coded. The green one is getting no vacuum, so your HVAC is stuck on defrost. I think the yellow/brown line is the one to the vacuum reservoir for the locks. Two check valves in parallel is obviously wrong. For starters I'd unhook one of the check valves at the

Re: [MBZ] checking, just checking

2009-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah that would work well with all that black oil in there. --R relng...@aol.com wrote: ..Here's an evil thought: Cut one or two circular holes in bottom/sides of oil pan and then drill/tap holes for new custom covers Would have to figure a way to get all the metal tailings out

Re: [MBZ] checking, just checking

2009-10-22 Thread RELNGSON
> ..Here's an evil thought:  Cut one or two circular holes in > bottom/sides > of oil pan and then drill/tap holes for new custom covers Would have > to figure a way to get all the metal tailings out > On this very sensible theme, how about a glass window with an oilproof light insid

Re: [MBZ] trans swap?

2009-10-22 Thread RELNGSON
> ...And what about the driveshaft and its connection to the new > transmission?... > And what about the gear ratios which would be totally unsuited to a low power low torque diesel? RLE > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.o

Re: [MBZ] 300D

2009-10-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Right-you were not the lawyer-he used his sister-I was just referring to you. Larry's tranny Is probably OK-the stealer just overfilled-seems fine now he said-sorry for the confusion. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Orig

[MBZ] Who wants a car phone?

2009-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
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Re: [MBZ] Flaky 240D starter

2009-10-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Not the case here-I am graduate of the Marshall school of one key on chain. I tried to shut it off-worked ignition every which way. Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@o

Re: [MBZ] Just far enough away

2009-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: 'Mounted 60's, '70's Japanese style. ;<))) Funny thing, when Curt said "fender mount mirror" I immediately thought "Mazda Cosmo", as it was the first Japanese car to catch my attention way back when: http://www.automobilemag.com/features/0802_1967_mazda_cosmo/index.html _

Re: [MBZ] Just far enough away

2009-10-22 Thread WILTON
'Mounted 60's, '70's Japanese style. ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] Just far enough away http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/1431094300.html Cool though, I'd only pay about $200

[MBZ] Just far enough away

2009-10-22 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/1431094300.html Cool though, I'd only pay about $200... Is that crazy fender mounted mirror correct? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://ww

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread LarryT
I agree - plus, isn't there a mesh screen over the oil pump intake like the older engines? I rebuilt the engine in my 69 280SE and know it was on that oil pump and I equally positive there's one on my 616 oil pump. The other worry is the ball bearings getting trapped in the area of the front

Re: [MBZ] 300D

2009-10-22 Thread LarryT
Thx Dwight - I changed the MM this morning - no drama for a change ;-) was pretty simple. The hard part was getting the noise shields back in place/ I'm happy with the lower noise with the new MM - quite a bit quieter. I'm going to go ahead and replace the other side too. I just prefer

Re: [MBZ] Flaky 240D starter

2009-10-22 Thread WILTON
I agree; after this incident she started using separate key ring for the cars with only TWO keys, one for each car. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Greg Fiorentino" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Flaky 240D starter

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Would massive failure of the brake booster cause same symptoms (hard brake pedal, no vacuum for fuel shut-off and for HVAC)? On the older cars, both ports from the vac pump go to the brakes, so a major leak on the brake side could cause

Re: [MBZ] 300D

2009-10-22 Thread LarryT
They explained it as wanting to be sure the level was below the correct mark so they could add ATF to get to the correct level. Still looking good - LarryT 91 300D Does your business accept or need to accept V/MC/AE/Dis? We have the best rates & 0% Interest Business loans. Visit: http://www.me

Re: [MBZ] Vac and heating troubles

2009-10-22 Thread WILTON
'Found no clues on mine; these connections are well-hidden and/or are elsewhere. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vac and heating troubles Somebody on the list knows the coding (f

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread R A Bennell
Should be able to check that by pinching the vaccuum hose to the brake booster flat with a clamp of some sort. Or disconnect and plug at the engine end. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPA

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
True, need to make sure that parts haven't dropped first. When I did the vacuum pump on an OM603, I removed the radiator and upper radiator hose to get good access, I suspect I'll have to do the same on this car. Would massive failure of the brake booster cause same symptoms (hard brake pedal, no

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Are we getting ahead of ourselves here? How much work is it to pull the vac pump and see if it still has its bearings and if the timer face is chewed up? If the bearings haven't scattered, then there's no need to figure out how to retrieve them. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Flaky 240D starter

2009-10-22 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I have read that a heavy key ring can wear out the ignition switch prematurely. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300TD (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mer

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread ned kleinhenz
Max: I am not in a good position to recommend what you should do or how to do it. I can only describe what I experienced. In my job planning, I decided it was not going to take much (if any) additional time and effort to remove the engine. Since I have never done the job without removing the engin

Re: [MBZ] Vac and heating troubles

2009-10-22 Thread WILTON
Somebody on the list knows the coding (for where to find it) for those tubes. Mine's a '91 350SDL, but I'll look at that area for clues, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Chris N John" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [M

Re: [MBZ] Vac and heating troubles

2009-10-22 Thread Jim Cathey
They're color-coded. The green one is getting no vacuum, so your HVAC is stuck on defrost. I think the yellow/brown line is the one to the vacuum reservoir for the locks. Two check valves in parallel is obviously wrong. For starters I'd unhook one of the check valves at the yellow end and put

Re: [MBZ] Flaky 240D starter

2009-10-22 Thread WILTON
'Bout twenty years ago, SWMBO came driving into the yard one day on our '80 240D. Before she stopped, I could hear the humming of the running starter. I was standing near the front passenger window as she parked and could see that her LARGE bundle of keys from her office area was hanging on t

Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level

2009-10-22 Thread Allan Streib
I did not write that... On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:33 -0500, "Donald Snook" wrote: > Allan S. wrote: "I have been told by several good transmission mechanics > that it does not hurt to over fill an auto transmission. If it is too > full, it will just overflow thru the dipstick tube and not damage t

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread pm7088
I'm thinking that he was refering to debris that was in the vacume pump 'vault', and fell into the chain/sprocket assembly. I've seen so much junk inbedded in the bottom of old oil pans, hard to belive it can 'jump up' and cause damage. YMMV -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original

Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level

2009-10-22 Thread Donald Snook
Allan S. wrote: "I have been told by several good transmission mechanics that it does not hurt to over fill an auto transmission. If it is too full, it will just overflow thru the dipstick tube and not damage the trans." That is certainly not true on GM transmissions. When they are overfilled,

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-22 Thread Donald Snook
Peter wrote: "After owning about 10 caddys with 700R4s here is what I think - out of the frying pan into the fire. Mine were all 60 inch stretch limos - but the Lincoln version is good for 300K while I was replacing 700R4s every 90K." Are you sure you weren;t replacing the 200r4. That was the tr

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I like it... Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of harry watkins Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes I had a friend with

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Ned, Any/all thoughts you are willing to share are appreciated. I really want to avoid pulling the engine just to get the pan off. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ned kleinhenz Sent: Thursday, October 22, 20

Re: [MBZ] 300D

2009-10-22 Thread Donald Snook
Dwight wrote: "Hate to say this-remember the John Peterson saga a few years when an Indy shop overfilled the tranny on his 91 300D 2.5t and he cooked tranny on a 10 mile drive home? Because Indy failed to follow his instruction on draining the TC, the Indy's ins co paid to replace the tranny wi

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread harry watkins
I had a friend with suspected metal in his pan and he stuck thin magnets on the outside and forgot about it. I never heard the rest of the story, but there may not have been one. Harry If the only concern was some bearings and debris in the pan, I'd let sleeping dogs lie. Metal stuff resting

Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level

2009-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I think I would find some new "good" transmission mechanics. Allen Sawyer wrote: I have been told by several good transmission mechanics that it does not hurt to over fill an auto transmission. If it is too full, it will just overflow thru the dipstick tube and not damage the trans. ___

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The OD in the 700R4 is weak unless you really beef it up. Peter Hertzing wrote: After owning about 10 caddys with 700R4s here is what I think - out of the frying pan into the fire. Mine were all 60 inch stretch limos - but the Lincoln version is good for 300K while I was replacing 700R4s every

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Peter, Unfortunately Marshall Booth has said in several different posts that I've read that engines were subsequently destroyed when the timing chain was derailed by vacuum pump debris which was not removed from the pan. He also said that in several cases he knew of this occurred despite determine

[MBZ] Too funny

2009-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1432032335.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/ma

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread pm7088
If the only concern was some bearings and debris in the pan, I'd let sleeping dogs lie. Metal stuff resting in the bottom of an oil pan will stay there, unless there is a sudden and severe gravity reversal. I've disassembled lots of engines/trannys/pumps/etc and found wrenches/sockets/dowel pi

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread ned kleinhenz
Max: Sorry, but I did the ball bearing-ectomy 2-1/2 years ago, many of the details are becoming vague. All of these schemes to avoid pulling the engine are kind of like watching a teenager do more work to avoid a job than it would take to just do the job. To pull the engine/trans, I bought an engin

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread pm7088
Chips? Don't make no chips! Use Trilobular self tapping screws. A wonderful invention for those of us who don't like to tap also. They come in all standard diameters and pitches. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: "Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Here's an evil thought: Cut one or two circular holes in bottom/sides of oil pan and then drill/tap holes for new custom covers Would have to figure a way to get all the metal tailings out. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes

2009-10-22 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Ned, So you're saying that due to the baffles inside the oil pan, I may not have much luck trying to get all the piece-parts out via drain hole and oil level sensor hole? I wonder if pulling off the front engine cover would help? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] 300D

2009-10-22 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Glad to hear that the noise was not the tranny. Curious that the dealer tech drained off a quart and then replaced it with fresh in order to make sure he had the level correct. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [MBZ] Flaky 240D starter

2009-10-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Mitch, But that is the only symptom-extended run. If it were the switch wouldn't it keep engaging the bendix in the start position? THX Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-bou

Re: [MBZ] 300D

2009-10-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
OK_Larry, Glad to hear that your covered on the ATF. Have fun with Motor mount. D Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry