Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: W124 erratic discharge

'Guess that's why the single one [tilde] is generally used for "about." That, and it's ASCII. Whereas all the other stuff is not. (alt)247 Hmm, doesn't work for me. But, then I have Apple gear. ALT-### is parochial, for the Windoze-only crowd. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Only failure mode I've ever seen is that they get loose and allow the door to flop around, not staying in the open position when you are trying to put your kid in the back seat. The original roller/spring designs couldn't really fail-open, but the sliding spring-loaded ball-bearing design can/do

Re: [MBZ] trap oxidizer on my 1985 CA version 300TD

there were at least 2 different campaigns to replace the TOs on the '85 617s; i don't think the second one was in place yet in '91, so there may be yet a later part. can you read the P/N on the side of what's in there now where the TO used to be? cheers! e On 31/Oct/11 12:10, andrew str

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > I got some "spray in" white grease last year at #1 daughter's house, and > squirted it in.  Didn't have much luck with that either. White lithium grease in a spray can is worthless in my experience. Whatever ingredient is i

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > I've always been of the understanding that if they get "balky" you > replace them, lest you find yourself away from home with a door that > won't close. Only failure mode I've ever seen is that they get loose and allow the door to flop around

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Recently, 'had another coupla days of overnight discharge in my 126; year or so ago, it was radio amp in trunk; few days ago, it was radio in center console. Now, BOTH lacking power - unplugged. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

The trunk light is a usual suspect - look for a worn spot in the insulation. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:28 PM, WILTON wrote: > Radio? Clock? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

It's a needle grease nozzle, I think. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/LINCOLN-Grease-Needle-Nozzle-6Y900 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dunno what they call it, but I got my adapticator from a chain saw store. > It snaps into a regular grease gun and

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Radio? Clock? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Well, I think I am down to things that have juice with the key off. , antenna, because

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

I could have sworn Marshall was one of the ones who repeatedly advised replacing the check straps at the first sign of trouble, and went to search the archives only to discover that Google thinks that okiebenz.com is a malware site and "may harm your computer." Kaleb you might want to clean up as

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

I squirted liberally. 'Dripping out bottom of door for few minutes onto ground; yeah, I know; EPA's coming, but I haven't had to R & R them yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:23 P

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Typically that relay is under the dash, but I'm not completely sure on the W124 -- none of mine have gone bad yet. Peter On Oct 31, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Is that one of the "ice cubes" by the fuses? Or is it hidden away? I hope the CDs will tell. another thing to chase. B

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Is that one of the "ice cubes" by the fuses? Or is it hidden away? I hope the CDs will tell. another thing to chase. Being an intermittent, it might be a long time before I can determine the culprit. Wilton was very quick to find his parasite. An ammeter would be good. If i can measure

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

I got some "spray in" white grease last year at #1 daughter's house, and squirted it in. Didn't have much luck with that either. I still believe in the "take it out and put in Moly grease" None of those have ever made noise or had to be taken out again. I've never tried M1 though. To Marsh

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Check for a bad interior light delay relay -- the one that keeps the interior lights on for a while after you close the door. They can fail so that they work properly keeping the lights on then turning them off, but the relay itself continues to draw current rather than unlatching as it's s

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Well, I think I am down to things that have juice with the key off. ‚ antenna, because it has been unplugged ‚ alt, because battery is 12.54V, engine off. Charging voltage 13.98 lights off, 13.91 lights on. I don't see a problem there. I have not heard of the GP relay causing current draw wit

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

'Sent it second time as unicode. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Uh oh; 'had the ≈ (double squiggle) on my screen; came through as ? Wilton - Original M

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Uh oh; 'had the ≈ (double squiggle) on my screen; came through as ? Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Oh! The NUMBER pad! Yep, 'works. ? Thanks. Wilton ---

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Oh! The NUMBER pad! Yep, 'works. ? Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge "WILTON" writes: Please 'splain (alt)247. A way to type special chara

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

My '81 300TD had a little rubber/plastic plug thing, I think my '83 240D has a metal bung of some sort... -Curt Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:08:14 -0400 From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dim

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Well, few days ago, I was at home when I realized I'd better do something. 'Squirted it - working nice and easy since. Left front door was very stiff when I got the 124 7+ years ago; gave it the squirt treatment; been fine since. Right rear door on the 126 was stiff and noisy coupla years ago;

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

"WILTON" writes: > Please 'splain (alt)247. A way to type special characters in Windows. Holding down the ALT key, you type the code on the number pad. http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codealt.html Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD __

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

- Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Benz Hogs wrote: How do you type the double ~? ≈. (alt)247 ___ http://www.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Please 'splain (alt)247. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge C'est le problem - je ne sais pas. I don't know - 'never typed it. 'Guess that's why the single one

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

C'est le problem - je ne sais pas. I don't know - 'never typed it. 'Guess that's why the single one is generally used for "about." ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Benz Hogs" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

"WILTON" writes: > When mine start getting balky, I squirt some M1 up in there on it via > the gap around the strap/arm. Just did left rear door on my 124 few > days ago. I've always been of the understanding that if they get "balky" you replace them, lest you find yourself away from home with

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

"WILTON" writes: > When mine start getting balky, I squirt some M1 up in there on it via > the gap around the strap/arm. Just did left rear door on my 124 few > days ago. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

When mine start getting balky, I squirt some M1 up in there on it via the gap around the strap/arm. Just did left rear door on my 124 few days ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:11

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Benz Hogs wrote: How do you type the double ~? ≈. (alt)247 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.oki

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

How do you type the double ~? Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 10/31/2011 4:17 PM, WILTON wrote: Actually, ~ = probability distribution; a double one is approximately or about/approximately equal, but the single one is a lot quicker and

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

I don't believe I've ever had a problem with an MB coolant drain in the radiator. Most W123s will have a plastic plug with a screwdriver slot and an o-ring seal, they don't need to be super tight and don't break. The one on the 280 SE is a standard "winged plug" sort of drain, but it was

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

Dimitri Seretakis writes: > Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking > for trouble. I don't even think my W123 has a drain bolt. Not sure about the W116 have not changed it yet. I always just pull the lower hose. In general be very careful with any threaded fittin

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking for trouble. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: That is way too practical. Then I won't have cause to post more questions about how to repair the bung that I twisted out of my rad, or whe

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Dieselhead wrote: Dunno what they call it, but I got my adapticator from a chain saw store. Don't know the name either, but it's used to grease the bar sprocket. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Dunno what they call it, but I got my adapticator from a chain saw store. It snaps into a regular grease gun and has the little deal to fit the grease port. Do carry a grease rag. The tend to send grease out sideways too. If your car has ever been repainted, you may need a pin to break the

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Amen Brüder! Say Hallelujah Alles. The last replacement drivers door strap on my 190Dt was new from Rusty. (All Hail Rusty!) It had some smear of nondescript grease on it so I just installed it as received, including the plastic shield. Couple of months later, it started to sqeeek at

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > One of the last new ones i got is squeaking already. I didn't grease > it because I didn't have moly grease handy at the time. I recommend > to always grease them with Moly grease. What about door hinges? I noticed a sort of concave port on mine that

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Alles. The last replacement drivers door strap on my 190Dt was new from Rusty. (All Hail Rusty!) It had some smear of nondescript grease on it so I just installed it as received, including the plastic shield. Couple of months later, it started to sqeeek at every motion. Removed and inspecte

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

One of the last new ones i got is squeaking already. I didn't grease it because I didn't have moly grease handy at the time. I recommend to always grease them with Moly grease. That way they last nearly forever as opposed to 1-2 years. (I won't use ~20 years, as that might confuse andrew)

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

That is way too practical. Then I won't have cause to post more questions about how to repair the bung that I twisted out of my rad, or where the best place to buy a new rad is etc. I might have to try to start a new oil thread. Randy On 31/10/2011 2:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Brillia

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

All the "new" (as opposed to new-to-me) check straps I've ever gotten have had grease in them already... -Curt Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:58:44 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap Message-ID: Content-Type: text/

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Actually, ~ = probability distribution; a double one is approximately or about/approximately equal, but the single one is a lot quicker and easier to type. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

About/approximately.;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Yeah but he said MINUS 30. Or was that ~ [squiggle] 30?? What do you call that sidew

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

And it means "approximately" in the context used. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:31 PM, "Luther's Benz" wrote: > ~ is a tilde. > > Luther > > On Oct 31, 2011 2:19 PM, andrew strasfogel > wrote: > > Yeah but he said MINUS 30. Or was that ~ [squiggle]

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

~ is a tilde. Luther On Oct 31, 2011 2:19 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Yeah but he said MINUS 30. Or was that ~ [squiggle] 30?? What do you call that sideways "s" anyway? On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > andrew strasfogel w

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Yeah but he said MINUS 30. Or was that ~ [squiggle] 30?? What do you call that sideways "s" anyway? On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > andrew strasfogel wrote: > >> WHere are you that it's already - 30 degrees? >> >> > It was about 20° F here in lower Michigan when I got up t

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

Brilliant. Now why didn't I think of that. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pull the lower hose. > > > I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending >> to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me, >> pa

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

andrew strasfogel wrote: WHere are you that it's already - 30 degrees? It was about 20° F here in lower Michigan when I got up this AM. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okie

Re: [MBZ] W124 Console

If you need to remove radio, here are instructions for making instr cluster/radio extraction tool from piece of coat hanger. I made two instrument cluster/radio extraction tools from coat hangers: on one end of a piece of coat hanger about 8" to 10" long, sharply bend a 3/16" length of it at 9

[MBZ] trap oxidizer on my 1985 CA version 300TD

One of the Amerian Service Center technicians at the Oct. 15 MBCA DIY tech session recommended I check with the dealership concenring the recall on the trap oxidizer for CA version 1985 turbodiesels. Not clear whether the recall (warranty) would cover my engine, since it had been transplanted into

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

Pre-glow relay? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: When #1 daughter had my 300D (1987, 124) the battery would sometimes discharge overnight, but not consistently. Since I got it back in May, there has been no problem until Sat, when SWMBO we

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

WHere are you that it's already - 30 degrees? On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > vac pump? > You're sure no lights are on? > > > __**_ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives > ht

Re: [MBZ] W124 Console

BTW, check peachparts.com, also. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Console 'Just sent some of the console info. 'Trying to find the more preliminary stuff, too. Wilton -

Re: [MBZ] W124 Console

'Just sent coupla pdf's. Have you looked under carpet inside the center compartment? Have I sent enough to help yet? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "mercedes" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:30 AM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Console Does anyone know how to take apart t

Re: [MBZ] W124 Console

'Just sent some of the console info. 'Trying to find the more preliminary stuff, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "mercedes" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:30 AM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Console Does anyone know how to take apart the console of a W124? I need to

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Yes After removing the obvious parts, push up on the bottom of the door panel. It is held on with (what are now brittle) plastic clips. Itere is one 10 mm nut inside, and 2 bolts from the outside. Always lube the new part with moly grease before installing. Otherwise, it will grate and sque

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

Pull the lower hose. I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me, patiently, I hope. On Saturday, I changed the oil. A lovely job on these old devils where one must crawl under instead of standi

[MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

Will I have to remove the front passenger side door panel to replace the door check strap (hope not)? TNX D.O.Jones ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscrib

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL on eBay

The leather is really good except for being moldy, what a deal! -Curt Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:17:07 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL on eBay Message-ID: <4eae0523.3070...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Fo

Re: [MBZ] 83 300d oil pan needed

Sounds good to me! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "Michael Canfield" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 31, 20

Re: [MBZ] 83 300d oil pan needed

Thanks Rusty. No reason at all to buy used at that price. I am making a list of stuff to order from you and will be giving you a call as soon as I can scrape up some cash. Thanks again, Mike On Oct 31, 2011 11:54 AM, "Rusty Cullens" wrote: > I have it new for $27.00 and the gasket for $9.00. W

[MBZ] Coolant change Q

I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me, patiently, I hope. On Saturday, I changed the oil. A lovely job on these old devils where one must crawl under instead of standing upright with one's $

Re: [MBZ] 83 300d oil pan needed

On 30/10/2011 4:00 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: I need a replacement oil pan for my 300d. Kaleb, anyone? How much shipped to 14865? Thanks, Mike ___ Check with Rusty on the price of a new one. I got one for my 115 300D and it was relatively cheap. Randy _

Re: [MBZ] 83 300d oil pan needed

I have it new for $27.00 and the gasket for $9.00. Why buy it used? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "Michael Canfield" To: "Merce

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

vac pump? You're sure no lights are on? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinf

[MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

When #1 daughter had my 300D (1987, 124) the battery would sometimes discharge overnight, but not consistently. Since I got it back in May, there has been no problem until Sat, when SWMBO went out and it would not start. (~30 degrees) Turns out the battery was dead flat. No light left on. I

[MBZ] LCA bushing orientation

I noticed that the LCA bushings have two opposing flat areas. Do the flats need to be oriented in a specific way relative to the LCA? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archiv

[MBZ] W124 Console

Does anyone know how to take apart the console of a W124? I need to replace the switches on our '95 E320 and looked at the way to do it and found it wasn't obvious. The first difference between the W124 and the W123 is getting the sliding-lid compartment off -- I don't see any hold-down screws in t