Re: [MBZ] parts sources

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
a cylinder and key that also worked in your doors? or just a tumbler and key where your ignition key didn't work in the door lock? On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > nobody can get you a key over the phone now for years. that is simply a >> fact. they a

Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Aug 1, 2013 8:17 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > > No response at Roger's #; 'tried 'til 8 PM Pacific time. > If he's in the hospital again, I wonder if you can get hold of his relatives? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] parts sources

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
nobody can get you a key over the phone now for years. that is simply a fact. they aren't giving keys over the phone to third parties anymore and haven't in a while. when was the last time anyone got a key from rusty that was keyed to their car and not a shop tumbler? i'd bet it's been years

Re: [MBZ] Poor quality parts

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
i've never seen it like this anywhere else. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > substance abusers too. everywhere. >> > > That is everywhere in the usah region > > > __**_ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list arc

Re: [MBZ] 1964 190D

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
Here is a picture of leather seats for a 111. 110 seats are the same. MBtex seats look like the leather seats, except that in 1966 they went to an embossed MB tex to look like perforated leather roll and tuck. http://www.sternschuppen.de/html/wsleder2003.html Heckflossefreund website: http:

Re: [MBZ] Poor quality parts

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
substance abusers too. everywhere. That is everywhere in the usah region ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercede

Re: [MBZ] parts sources

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
nobody can get you a key over the phone now for years. that is simply a fact. they aren't giving keys over the phone to third parties anymore and haven't in a while. when was the last time anyone got a key from rusty that was keyed to their car and not a shop tumbler? i'd bet it's been years

Re: [MBZ] Poor quality parts

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
substance abusers too. everywhere. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > So poos is in Florida, Jabba the fatty is in Florida, I guess I need to >> come to Florida. >> > > FL is home to con artists and scammers. Lots of em sell cars. Houston is > known for

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
I think enough of them can finally be convinced that the Rs aren't really any different from the Ds. Mitch. Ja, der's a difference. One set is marxist, leninist mao lovin facists. The other set is insecure socialist facist pigs. ___ http://www.okieben

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
What about the cheap-ass plastic key heads? Can you get those? What about the sweet leather key pouch god-dammits? Bob R Get Rich to machine you a classy wood key head, or just weld a washer to the stub key. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list arch

[MBZ] parts sources

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
I wanted a key jabba said to go to the dealer. Yow. --R (sent from my miniPad) Ain't no Rusty any more. We are on our own. GO to the stealer for a key if you can hold your nose, or call the classic center. For a Key, I'd opt for a stealer who advertises in the Star and gives a MBCA dis

Re: [MBZ] 1964 190D

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
http://www.heckflosse.nl/ There is another guy in .nl who sells the rubber floor mats. THis is another guy http://www.niemoeller.de/w111/B024-49-C-68-001-gummimatte-f-fahrerb--li-u-re-.html One of them or the .de heckflosse club can probably find you a shop who will make them for you. Gre

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Gosh yes. When I was in high school I dated a girl who's parents were bigtime RVers. They had like a 20 or 24 foot. The kind built on a van but with a big body and sleeping over the cab. I remember them saying they had to get their parents to co-sign for the RV but didn't w

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I'm not a big fan of the ACA but what did the Republicrats put forth? Nothing. A "the market will work it out" ploy clearly hasn't been working. The market works to enrich itself. In an open market with perfect information, most of the willing buyers of health insurance w

Re: [MBZ] Poor quality parts

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
So poos is in Florida, Jabba the fatty is in Florida, I guess I need to come to Florida. FL is home to con artists and scammers. Lots of em sell cars. Houston is known for car scammers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Mountain Man wrote: Roger wrote: Each of you needs to bring pressure on your representatives. This assumes a functional system. No $$, no voice - see SCOTUS decision about $$/persons. I agree with one guy I read - look for a military coup. I emailed both of my communist Senators and my socia

Re: [MBZ] ACA

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm more thinking to wait and see on obamacare. lots of propaganda now but reality will be someone different. maybe good. maybe bad. i will reserve judgment until i see it in action it's like that new google nexus 7. looks GREAT on paper, but i won't consider buying it until it's been out for

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
i tend to make a lot of sense in general. many stories of my madness are greatly exaggerated. for the most part, i'm just a fantastically boring introvert who spends too much time trying to make sense out of stuff :( my alter ego, hattaway, makes up for it though! On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:32

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Michael Canfield
Damn Gary, It disturbs me a little that I tend to agree with most of what you say lately..hahha. Just ribbin.. Mike On Aug 1, 2013 11:22 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > well, yeah, we desperately need death panels. the reality is that spending > millions to keep a 90 year old person alive fo

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
well, yeah, we desperately need death panels. the reality is that spending millions to keep a 90 year old person alive for a few months more is a disgrace and a pure scam masquerading behind some sort of humanitarian idea. why not use that money to provide some healthcare for all of those who are

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
yes, to cheap ass plastic key heads. haven't seen sweet leather goddamits in a while. no keys though. i don't know of anyone still selling keys over the phone. go to your dealer On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > What about the cheap-ass plastic key heads? Can you get thos

Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
No response at Roger's #; 'tried 'til 8 PM Pacific time. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Roger? I checked, too; found no obit, etc. 'Been trying to call 'im all afternoon; no answ

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
How 'bout Keenan in PA? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts I wanted a key jabba said to go to the dealer. Yow. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:07

Re: [MBZ] OT: My Healing and Job Searching [was Re: 240D Mystery Bolt????]

2013-08-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 23:05:24 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > 'Hope the healing and the job search go well. > > Wilton Thank you. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options g

Re: [MBZ] OT: My Healing and Job Searching [was Re: 240D Mystery Bolt????]

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
'Hope the healing and the job search go well. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 10:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: My Healing and Job Searching [was Re: 240D Mystery Bolt] On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:39:49 -0400 "WILT

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
Back in the day when the USAF has their own veterinarians, the vets could be drafted to run triage. The vets had a "herd medicine" culture so they had less problem deciding who could wait, who would die anyway, and who needed immediate attention. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto

Re: [MBZ] 1964 190D

2013-08-01 Thread Dwight Giles
Great thanks. Wonder about door panels. On Thursday, August 1, 2013, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, there is a guy in the netherlands that has a nice website with paint colors, interior colors etc. It was a roll and tuck seat cover, with maybe 2 3/4" between the tucks. Let me se

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread G Mann
And the alternate is what? Quality of Death? My apologies to the politically correct, but I'm not a fan of "quality death"... it's not in my programming.. Besides, I'm sure to die in a hail of hollowpoint DHS bullets in the coming revolution, being a veteran, a conservative, and a Christian, I'm

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread Peter Frederick
Keys are no longer available except at a dealer, in person, with documentation. Too many stolen cars via the VIN number, I suspect. It's rather difficult to steal a Benz by the normal methods such as using dent puller to yank the lock cylinder out of a door and a screwdriver and wrench to

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
What about the cheap-ass plastic key heads? Can you get those? What about the sweet leather key pouch god-dammits? Bob R On Aug 1, 2013 7:26 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > yes, this is true. keys are a disaster. > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
yes, this is true. keys are a disaster. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > I wanted a key jabba said to go to the dealer. Yow. > > --R (sent from my miniPad) > > On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > > no keys. keys are mad

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread Rich Thomas
I wanted a key jabba said to go to the dealer. Yow. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: no keys. keys are mad On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > So can you get dealer only items like Rusty used to? What about keys? > > Sent from

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Curt Raymond
Gosh yes. When I was in high school I dated a girl who's parents were bigtime RVers. They had like a 20 or 24 foot. The kind built on a van but with a big body and sleeping over the cab. I remember them saying they had to get their parents to co-sign for the RV but didn't when they bought their

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Rich Thomas
IOW he's a pirate. Aagh! --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 1, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:14:37 -0400 "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > Actually, yes or at least we did. I have a cousin who is a successful > builder (mostly residential). He also owns a coupl

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm not a big fan of the ACA but what did the Republicrats put forth? Nothing. A "the market will work it out" ploy clearly hasn't been working. The market works to enrich itself. I'm pissed that our elected officials can't compromise on anything anymore and the Republicans seem to think the be

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-01 Thread Curt Raymond
In an emergency situation where you have limited resources its called triage, you save the people you can and comfort those who are traveling to whatever is next. Strangely in general medicine we've somehow decided that everybody needs to live forever and 90 year old patients should be kept ali

[MBZ] OT: My Healing and Job Searching [was Re: 240D Mystery Bolt????]

2013-08-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:39:49 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > Craig, how's your healing going? > > Wilton It's going slowly. I have been getting physical therapy, but I'm still in pain a lot of the time with muscle spasms. I think it's getting better, albeit slowly. I am allowed to have my cervical colla

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Thanks to all who replied. ALL of the hints and ideas sound good to me. It'll be a week or so before I have the time dig in to this. The 400 lb. ft. sounded strange to me. I do have a torque wrench that goes up to 250 or 300, but couldn't find any 400s online even. I'll let y'all know how this

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Roger wrote: > Each of you needs to bring pressure on your representatives. This assumes a functional system. No $$, no voice - see SCOTUS decision about $$/persons. I agree with one guy I read - look for a military coup. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To sea

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread rogerhga
To all who have given great comments on this topic (not Roger, but the ACA)... I think you'll find that the bill did originate in the House, but the Senate (Reid with Pelosi's help) gutted the House bill and dropped in ACA. Once mistakenly passed by the Senate, it goes to House conference or som

Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Darren wrote: > Real pretty!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote: > Did I guess wrong, or were you planning on buying gov't subsidized health > insurance, or paying extra taxes for not buying it? > From the sounds of it, it might come out pretty much free if you buy it. > You said things correctly, which is fine. And, nope, I don't plan on spending

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
no keys. keys are mad On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > So can you get dealer only items like Rusty used to? What about keys? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.co

[MBZ] Jabba parts

2013-08-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So can you get dealer only items like Rusty used to? What about keys? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/li

Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-01 Thread Fmiser
> Darren posts a photo Hey! That looks just like one of mine! Except the paint is shiny... and it doesn't have a sunroof... and the tires are whitewalls... and I don't see any rust... and I don't have any that color... and I have alloy wheels... and it's in a city. But other than that, it

Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
my favorite car of all time was probably my 72 220D On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 8:28 PM, WILTON wrote: > Sure reminds me how much I liked my '80 240D. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Darren Marshall" < > onecreat...@gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:43 PM > Subj

Re: [MBZ] Poor quality parts

2013-08-01 Thread Gary Hurst
it's where the sketchy all end up, so you might as well join us On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > So poos is in Florida, Jabba the fatty is in Florida, I guess I need to > come to Florida. > > > On 8/1/2013 5:01 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> Yup. >> >> We refer to the meeti

Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
I checked, too; found no obit, etc. 'Been trying to call 'im all afternoon; no answer. Will try more this evening. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Roger? Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
Sure reminds me how much I liked my '80 240D. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Darren Marshall" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ---

Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Maybe he is dead. I found his mom's obit but nothing like that on him. Here's where he works: http://www.northwhatcomlaw.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or ch

Re: [MBZ] Poor quality parts

2013-08-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK On 8/1/2013 6:36 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Wait until the "winter" and we'll have a "FloriBanned". I have access to a nice private park that would be perfect for it. Dan/Poos On Aug 1, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So poos is in Florida, Jabba the fatty is in Florida, I guess I

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Mountain Man wrote: Mitch wrote: That's what they say. Doesn't mean I (or apparently Canfield or Gordon) have much intention of allowing it. Oh, WOW!! My intentions preceed me!! It is amazing sometimes how much is said and then I forget I said it, so you already know. mao Did I guess wrong

Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That 116 I was looking at was this color I believe. On 7/31/2013 7:43 PM, Darren Marshall wrote: Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To searc

Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 18:29:16 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Maybe he is dead. Or sick again. Time will tell. Craig > On 8/1/2013 2:13 PM, Craig wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:26:24 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > > > >> Is it Roger L. Ellingson, Seatle? 'Just tried to call his #; no > >> answ

Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D

2013-08-01 Thread Dan Penoff
Very nice. One of my most favorite features of the W123s and others - color-keyed wheel covers. I think that was one of the nicest design touches these cars had. The bundts are fugly. Dan who lusts for a W111 On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Darren Marshall wrote: > > > Darren Marshall > htt

Re: [MBZ] Poor quality parts

2013-08-01 Thread Dan Penoff
Wait until the "winter" and we'll have a "FloriBanned". I have access to a nice private park that would be perfect for it. Dan/Poos On Aug 1, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > So poos is in Florida, Jabba the fatty is in Florida, I guess I need to come > to Florida. > _

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Nobody cares what is legal and what is not anymore. I guess they can just do whatever they want. So if it is the law, the president does not have the authority to delay the implementation of his law, or cherry pick what to enforce and what to not. Its supposedly the law so he has no right t

Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Maybe he is dead. On 8/1/2013 2:13 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:26:24 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: Is it Roger L. Ellingson, Seatle? 'Just tried to call his #; no answer. Other than missing a "t" in Seattle, I think it's right. I emailed him offlist on Tuesday, but have gotten no respon

Re: [MBZ] Hey Jaime what do you think about this car?

2013-08-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh well I did not bid. I all the sudden have an urge for a 79 240D auto, just like my first car. This is a different color but I like this color. On 8/1/2013 5:20 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: It might clean up, but doesn't impress me overall. Too dirty, looks like it was left outside too lo

Re: [MBZ] Poor quality parts

2013-08-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So poos is in Florida, Jabba the fatty is in Florida, I guess I need to come to Florida. On 8/1/2013 5:01 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Yup. We refer to the meeting as "WikiBanned". Dan thawing out in the Florida sunshine Sent from my iPad On Aug 1, 2013, at 1:06 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Y

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote: > And it is another way the ACA is illegal. Spending/taxing bills must > originate in the House. The ACA originated in the Senate. Thanks. Nice. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscri

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Mike wrote: > I am not going to pay, period. They will probably try to sieze my personal > property, I sold it all already, on paper. The personal property at this residence is all old useless being used property of no use to anyone but the dump. Nice old stuff, none of it of any value, I'm sure

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
The book says 270-330 Nm (200-244 ft lb). http://pt709.synology.me/03-340.pdf -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt On Thu

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote: > That's what they say. > Doesn't mean I (or apparently Canfield or Gordon) have much intention of > allowing it. Oh, WOW!! My intentions preceed me!! It is amazing sometimes how much is said and then I forget I said it, so you already know. mao

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
It's pretty plain that legality and constitutionality were not overriding considerations when the Supremes ruled on PPACA. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subje

Re: [MBZ] ACA

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote: > If people refuse to enroll in Obamaʼs Exchanges, Obamacare can be > stopped until it is repealed. I like this information, but... Somehow... I doubt much will happen. People love to have health care and want it at prices reflecting Wall Mart sourcing and demanded by the g

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Frederick Moir
According to Haynes :- 270-330 Nm or 199-244 Ft-lbs.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Craig >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:36 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt > > >On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:19:16 -0500 R

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:14:37 -0400 "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > Actually, yes or at least we did. I have a cousin who is a successful > builder (mostly residential). He also owns a couple large marinas and a > yacht or two. For his vacation he "works" as a yacht repo guy. > Typically he and some bu

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
Craig, how's your healing going? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:19:16 -0500 Randy Bennell wrote: I have no idea what the recommended

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:24:51 -0400 "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > > On Aug 1 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > > Oh, but they do! The Republican majority Supreme Court upheld > > Obamacare so it's "the law of the land". > > Yes. And that was a great disappointment, like Dread Scott. And it is another w

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:19:16 -0500 Randy Bennell wrote: > I have no idea what the recommended torque value is. I was just > commenting on the ealier post that suggested 400 ft #. Well, it's high, but it is not 400 ft-lb, which will indeed break things. IIRC, it's something like 225 - 250 ft-lb.

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
Yes. And that was a great disappointment, like Dread Scott. -Original Message- On Aug 1 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Oh, but they do! The Republican majority Supreme Court upheld Obamacare so it's "the law of the land". ___ http://www.okiebenz.com T

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Randy Bennell
On 01/08/2013 5:14 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Actually, yes or at least we did. I have a cousin who is a successful builder (mostly residential). He also owns a couple large marinas and a yacht or two. For his vacation he "works" as a yacht repo guy. Typically he and some buds fly to Florida, t

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Randy Bennell
On 01/08/2013 4:05 PM, Dieselhead wrote: We made one when we pulled the bolt on the old 4Runner last summer to replace the head gaskets etc. Basically a steel plate with a hole in the middle to put the socket on the rattle gun through and smaller holes to bolt to the dampener in the spots in

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
Actually, yes or at least we did. I have a cousin who is a successful builder (mostly residential). He also owns a couple large marinas and a yacht or two. For his vacation he "works" as a yacht repo guy. Typically he and some buds fly to Florida, the Bahamas, or some such, seize a yacht, ensu

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Michael Canfield
I am not going to pay, period. They will probably try to sieze my personal property, I sold it all already, on paper. Mike On Aug 1, 2013 5:03 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> Oh, but they do! The Republican majority Supreme Court upheld Obamacare >> so >> it's "the law

[MBZ] ACA

2013-08-01 Thread Craig
I think we can all agree that the ACA is a train wreck in the making, - Sharing much personal information with the IRS, the one that is said to be involved in a "phoney" scandal, - Having no control of who that personal information is given to, - Being fo

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
That's a no brainer: obey the law and pay the penalty. You are assuming that obummercare is a law. It is NOT. (this is where Mao chimes in to tell you the paper that makes the case that it is not a law.) Even though it is not a law, the gummit will attempt to enforce it as if it were a law

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
What would cause this failure? Fatigue Bolt torque/stretched too far? probably not, but possible If a repair is possible (key NOT sheared or keyway usable) is this likely to happen again? maybe after another 200k miles plus, or if the new bolts are not as good as the old ones. That

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
We made one when we pulled the bolt on the old 4Runner last summer to replace the head gaskets etc. Basically a steel plate with a hole in the middle to put the socket on the rattle gun through and smaller holes to bolt to the dampener in the spots intended for the bolts that hold the pulley

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
Vib damper on my '80 240D was poorly secured with 5 or 6 smaller bolts; some came out; others sheared; damper and pulley finally came off and dropped SWMBO on road; long distance truck driver gave her lift to a phone. 'Think the car had about 60 kmi then - my second MB disappointment; first wa

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Oh, but they do! The Republican majority Supreme Court upheld Obamacare so it's "the law of the land". That's what they say. Doesn't mean I (or apparently Canfield or Gordon) have much intention of allowing it. Obama, Pelosi, et al said it's not a tax. Department of

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Oh, but they do! The Republican majority Supreme Court upheld Obamacare so it's "the law of the land". On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> That's a no brainer: obey the law and pay the penalty. >> > > No effing way. > That would give them the idea

Re: [MBZ] 1964 190D

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
Yeah, there is a guy in the netherlands that has a nice website with paint colors, interior colors etc. It was a roll and tuck seat cover, with maybe 2 3/4" between the tucks. Let me see if I can find the website. something like heckflosse.nl . Does anyone know a source for a picture of

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: That would give them the idea that they have the power to us to participate in commerce. Crap. Accidentally deleted half of that and missed a word when retyping. That would give them the idea that they have the power to ORDER us to participate in commerce. (commerce that

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's a no brainer: obey the law and pay the penalty. No effing way. That would give them the idea that they have the power to us to participate in commerce. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That's a no brainer: obey the law and pay the penalty. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Michael Canfield wrote: > >> I will not pay, nor will I seek the care of a doctor that I cannot afford >> to pay cash. Either that or they will arrest me, seize my property and >> pay >>

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
My buddy's Honda chewed the slot up to a round dent in the crank. Hard to do, I thought. Figured it'd chip out. But it rounded out the crank and chewed up the damper. Now we have the difference between a ricer and a stately Mercedes.. the Mercedes has enough common decency to fail in a manne

[MBZ] 1964 190D

2013-08-01 Thread Dwight Giles
. Does anyone know a source for a picture of the original type interior in a 64 190D? I can find any in my books. Thanks , Dwight ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Michael Canfield wrote: I will not pay, nor will I seek the care of a doctor that I cannot afford to pay cash. Either that or they will arrest me, seize my property and pay for my care while incarcerated. So, what are you going to do if the individual mandate isn't postponed or repealed and y

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Mike wrote: > I will not pay, nor will I seek the care of a doctor that I cannot afford > to pay cash. Either that or they will arrest me, seize my property and pay > for my care while incarcerated. You along with most of okiebenz, it appears. And probably a good portion of the target insurable

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote: > Yikes, what's the point of having prescription drug insurance if they can do > that to you? It is called Death Panel. Doctors do this all the time when they participate in emergency recovery drill such as airplane crash. Individuals are graded as to survivor or not and that is the

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Michael Canfield
I will not pay, nor will I seek the care of a doctor that I cannot afford to pay cash. Either that or they will arrest me, seize my property and pay for my care while incarcerated. Mike On Aug 1, 2013 3:23 PM, "G Mann" wrote: > willingly sell it in Canada for that price, why do they have to ge

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Randy Bennell
On 01/08/2013 2:18 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote: You can do it with everything in place. It's not a bad job actually, but I think you may need to make a tool or two. I don't remember the actual torque value, but it's in the 400 pound-foot range. First off you'll have to pull the whole mess off

Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
drfatty wrote: > it's a completely broken country. every system is broken > and there is no plan to fix anything Totally. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Greg Fiorentino wrote: <> How about (if the key is sheared) braze or hard silver solder a new key onto the crankshaft? Or use some super-duper Loctite on the key as well as the pulley/crankshaft joint? I suspect these would be stronger in a small gap than epoxy. I read that specialized Loctit

Re: [MBZ] Here is one for MAO

2013-08-01 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branded_(2012_film) > > Beware the consumerist impulse For sure. Too bad I can't see it. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
<> How about (if the key is sheared) braze or hard silver solder a new key onto the crankshaft? Or use some super-duper Loctite on the key as well as the pulley/crankshaft joint? I suspect these would be stronger in a small gap than epoxy. I read that specialized Loctite types are used in some

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
Vib damper on my '80 240D was poorly secured with 5 or 6 smaller bolts; some came out; others sheared; damper and pulley finally came off and dropped SWMBO on road; long distance truck driver gave her lift to a phone. 'Think the car had about 60 kmi then - my second MB disappointment; first was

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Richard Hattaway
My buddy's Honda chewed the slot up to a round dent in the crank.  Hard to do, I thought.  Figured it'd chip out.  But it rounded out the crank and chewed up the damper. Now we have the difference between a ricer and a stately Mercedes.. the Mercedes has enough common decency to fail in a manne

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