Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
<< If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.>> Also a line from an R&B song performed by Albert King: Born Under a Bad Sign. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:00 PM To: Merced

Re: [MBZ] Tar

2013-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey
Do you know Long Beach Washington? My son was interested in a job there several years ago. Sure do. Family still has a cabin there. It's very damp. Kind of a depressed area, and always lots of real estate on the market. I seem to recall that prices are rather high, now. No way you can get

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey
Of all the luck... As Rodney Dangerfield said, if I didn't have bad luck I'd have no luck at all. Sounds more Hee-Haw to me. "Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep dark depression, excessive misery. If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all. Gloom despair, and agony on me." Or somet

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Jim Cathey
Some of the Coleman guys hose the rusty pan with oven cleaner and stuff it in a plastic bag. In a day or three pull it out, scrape, scrub, rinse and season. I like this idea for the simplicity of operation... A battery charger and washing soda _is_ simple, and works like magic. It also puts s

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yeah, but this was no accident. The manager sensed my confidence and didn't even flinch. I attribute this confidence to the excellent advice I received from so many of you. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > Nice to hear that they did right by you. > > Greg > > -Ori

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Nice to hear that they did right by you. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 5:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF? At around 3 PM, a fl

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 24, 2013 5:25 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > > Some of the Coleman guys hose the > rusty pan with oven cleaner and stuff > it in a plastic bag. Brilliant idea, considering the porosity of cast iron and the extreme toxicity of oven cleaner. But then I suppose these guys spend all their time s

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread G Mann
http://www.gcica.org/mfg-history/wagner_history.html This might be of interest to some of you. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > Car talk guys say EVOO is good oil for cars. They are of course eyetalian. > On Nov 24, 2013 8:43 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > > > I had to look

Re: [MBZ] OT: Long shot missed

2013-11-24 Thread Dwight Giles
I know universities are a bit different from colleges, , but our search committees would look more favorably on adjunct college teaching than HS teaching. Community College teaching would count. As Fred says, YMMV. Dwight On Nov 24, 2013 7:43 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > Not a bad idea, but consid

[MBZ] OT: Humor with some truth

2013-11-24 Thread Scott Ritchey
WARNING: After a recent wave of identify thefts, the FBI estimates there are over 500 fake Obamacare websites set up for the sole purpose of stealing your personal information. So protect yourself and remember: the real one is the one that doesn't work ___ h

Re: [MBZ] New season of SNL - OT

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
You really need to give them another chance. That is, if wacky and wickedly funny is your cup of tea. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Well, in my opinion they have nowhere to go but up -- with a few > exceptions, I've not bothered with SNL since about 1978. No longer

Re: [MBZ] New season of SNL - OT

2013-11-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, in my opinion they have nowhere to go but up -- with a few exceptions, I've not bothered with SNL since about 1978. No longer funny. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chang

[MBZ] New season of SNL - OT

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Has anyone noticed how much more inventive, creative and generally hilarious this season's Saturday Night Live has become? Some of the new cast members are super talented and the skits are pretty much spot-on. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Dwight Giles
Car talk guys say EVOO is good oil for cars. They are of course eyetalian. On Nov 24, 2013 8:43 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > I had to look up what EVOO was... > > I use mostly olive oil, never cared too much if it was EV or just fine, > perhaps my palate isn't developed enough to care. I'm pretty

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener Resin

2013-11-24 Thread Scott Ritchey
Pretty much. They replace calcium, iron, and other ions (responsible for hard water) with sodium ions: good for washing, not so good for drinking. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 8:38 PM To: Merc

[MBZ] OT: Dr Who fans?

2013-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Since the list is so busy lately I'll add a little more noise to the mix. Did anybody watch the Dr. Who 50th anniversary special yesterday? I got to see it with 23 other like minded fools at Brookline Access TV. The episode itself was as mediocre as most specials of the type are but watching it

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
At around 3 PM, a flatbed tow truck came to take my 300TD to Sears Automotive Center in Montogmery Mall, Bethesda, MD. The driver drove the car onto the flatbed (would have preferred he winch it up) and then we took off. The Sears people ushered us into the shop directly and got to work immediate

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I had to look up what EVOO was... I use mostly olive oil, never cared too much if it was EV or just fine, perhaps my palate isn't developed enough to care. I'm pretty lazy about seasoning, wipe a good coating of olive oil, or shortening or whatever is handy into the pan, get it warm and call it

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener Resin

2013-11-24 Thread OK Don
Doesn't a water softener just replace one set of dissolved minerals for another? Are they really good to use? Sorry, I have no idea about yours-- On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Our water softener is not working well. > Perhaps new resin is needed? > Is that remove and

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Some of the Coleman guys hose the rusty pan with oven cleaner and stuff it in a plastic bag. In a day or three pull it out, scrape, scrub, rinse and season. I like this idea for the simplicity of operation... -Curt Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:04:57 -0500 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Nope, the oldest of those I bought in '99 when I went out on my own. The newest I bought for ChowdaQ 2008 or 2009, I don't remember which. -Curt  Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:51:36 -0500 From: Dwight Giles To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines Message-ID:     C

[MBZ] OT - Water Softener Resin

2013-11-24 Thread Mountain Man
Our water softener is not working well. Perhaps new resin is needed? Is that remove and replace or is there more? Someone online mentioned probably not resin but control valve - does anyone know this? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archi

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread WILTON
The chunks worry me most, also. No telling what they'll plug. Wilt - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF? Like Scott said, there's no telling what else besides oil

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread OK Don
If you do decide to drop the pan and take alook, have a new gasket on hand -- On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > Dropping the pan might be a bit over the top unless you saw some really, > really large pieces of crud go into the engine. If so, I would probably > pull the val

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale taqysasy

2013-11-24 Thread Mitchell Haley, EA
> This was the guy who left a smoldering roach in his Corvair one morning and about 9:30 it finally ignited all the others in the ashtray and burned the car up. 2-3 of the girls in my grade were given old Mustang IIs (Pinto-Stangs I called them). One night, some girls were out partying, and ran ou

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Dwight Giles
When we lived in Nashville we used to go to Lodge factory store in S. Pittsburgh TN. What a candy store. We have some Wagner ware pans about 75 years old.IIRC Wagner was made in Ohio. On Nov 24, 2013 6:15 PM, "G Mann" wrote: > Thanks for the feedback on the new Lodge pans.. it mirrors my exper

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread G Mann
Thanks for the feedback on the new Lodge pans.. it mirrors my experience also. The old Lodge pans all "ring true" that I've tried. I suspect new cast production methods and cast iron base material quality is less than it was in 1800's . The "ring" comes from casting integrity. If there are less

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WDIDT?

2013-11-24 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yeah I suppose we have all done things where you later think, "why did I do that?" Far as the car goes, it would be a good idea to 'capture' that crap oil and inspect it, to get an idea of what was in there. Maybe run a magnet through it and sieve it. I don't think I have ever seen 'lumpy' sump

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Do that thing with the electrolysis to get all the rust off. Battery charger, a bucket of water, and washing soda. http://www.rickswoodshopcreations.com/miscellaneous/rust_removal.htm --R (who has not tried this but might some time) On 11/24/13 4:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm interested in

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale

2013-11-24 Thread Rich Thomas
That "special sauce" is probably about 90 HFCS which is what is addictive along with the fat and salt and cholesterol (4 of the basic food groups!). I cannot even eat that stuff any more, I would gag on it. In high school we had a buddy who worked at the McD's downtown, which was not A Good P

Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS gaiters

2013-11-24 Thread Frederick Moir
Hendrik and Fay, et al. I'd have to put duct tape on the duct tape! Maybe contrasting colors, Hm.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Hendrik and Fay >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:54 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Dwight Giles
Haven't you used some of those old cast iron pans to cook at ChowdahQ? On Nov 24, 2013 4:46 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > I also pretty much only cook on cast iron although my wife has a couple > little teflon egg pans that are okay. > At the kitchen shop in Keene, NH today I did your ring test. In

Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I also pretty much only cook on cast iron although my wife has a couple little teflon egg pans that are okay. At the kitchen shop in Keene, NH today I did your ring test. Interestingly some of the new Lodge skillets would ring and some wouldn't. The very expensive (can't remember the brand) skil

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Dan Penoff
I think a lot of the suggestions are good, but probably overkill. If in fact the substance in the jug was waste oil and solids, draining and refilling the crankcase with fresh oil and replacing the filter is probably more than adequate for getting the crud out of the engine. If there were susp

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale

2013-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
First off who puts a burger in the pocket of their coat? Its dehydrated. He lives in Utah, a low humidity state (I almost wrote "dry", HA!) and put the burger, wrapped in its paper bag in his coat further helping it dehydrate. So of course it didn't decompose... I'm not pro McDs I'm anti-stupid

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Craig
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 14:57:17 -0500 Larry T wrote: > I suggest you check the parts diagram to see if there's a screen - or > another lister will likely know - if so you,should pull the front lower > oil pan (pretty simple) and remove the screen then clean it with fuel, > etc. A simple spring c

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale

2013-11-24 Thread Curt Raymond
The onions are in fact "recon" which is to say reconstituted from dried. Its fairly hilarious when somebody does it with warm water since the onions turn pink. Doesn't hurt them any they're just pink. Interestingly the quarter pounder onions are "real" which is to say fresh. Of course everything

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Craig
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 14:58:47 -0500 Larry T wrote: > some sears have auto repair departments - perhaps they will do the > suggested work without too much force? But would you trust them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread dseretakis
I would suggest another oil and filter change soon after as well. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Thanks to all for the advice and encouragement. Sears actually remembered > selling me the motor oil so there's was no hassle. Waiting on the flatbed > t

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Larry T
some sears have auto repair departments - perhaps they will do the suggested work without too much force? Larry Please Visit My AMSOIL Online Store: http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/default.aspx?zo=5114156 Oil Analysis Site - www.youroil.net On 11/23/2013 11:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I w

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Larry T
Yes, change the filter too. If it was filtering as it should it hopefully caught some of the larger chunks you mentioned. However, some (most/ all?) engines have a strainer screen covering the oil intake for the oil pump. Any of that gunk larger than the screen opening will be caught by the

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread OK Don
Like Scott said, there's no telling what else besides oil was in the jug. I'd be worried aboutthe chunks clogging up the oil suctino screen in the bottom of the pan and the oil remaining in the lines and oil cooler. Not sure what I'd do about the chunks if it was my car, but I'd "flush" with a chea

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Thanks to all for the advice and encouragement. Sears actually remembered selling me the motor oil so there's was no hassle. Waiting on the flatbed truck now. On Nov 24, 2013 2:43 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > > There's no telling what was really in that jug but it was probably just > dirty Diesel

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Scott Ritchey
There's no telling what was really in that jug but it was probably just dirty Diesel oil plus dirt and maybe other car fluids (brake fluid, antifreeze, gas, etc.). The only things you know for sure is that it isn't new oil and the Sears guy was confused, clueless, or a liar. It would be nice to

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Gary Hurst
i never imagined such a thing s happening, although it does sound like used oil. i mean, i don't think anyone has experienced new oil that is black wih chunks in it i dont' see it hurting the engine short term, but i'd change the oil and filter right now and again in a couple of hundred miles. m

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
If you only knew... On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > If it caused loss of conjugal pleasure you could get even more. > > --R > > > > On 11/24/13 11:00 AM, WILTON wrote: > >> 'Not sure that could cover it - the distress, that is; 'don'

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Rich Thomas
If it caused loss of conjugal pleasure you could get even more. --R On 11/24/13 11:00 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Not sure that could cover it - the distress, that is; 'don't worry 'bout humiliation - 'could happen to any of us; we certainly don't think any less of you. 'Hope we can all learn a lesso

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread WILTON
At least. I DO think ya need a good flush, properly done. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF? I think I will ask them to tow the vehicle to my

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread WILTON
'Not sure that could cover it - the distress, that is; 'don't worry 'bout humiliation - 'could happen to any of us; we certainly don't think any less of you. 'Hope we can all learn a lesson from it, though; we must be on guard against damned crooks and thieves at every "turn," i. e., constantly

Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-24 Thread MG
As far as twisting it around goes, yes I agree but for breaking a tire loose then I would say that 3/4" plywood would be better as I have found that even 4 ply 1/2" plywood tends to be a bit too shall we say pliable to be very steady for any but the most light work. Then again most of what I ha

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I think I will ask them to tow the vehicle to my mechanic and pay for an engine flush + new oil On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Jon Agne wrote: > No money for pre-existing conditions! :-) > > > On Nov 23, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > I was thinking several $million for

Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-24 Thread Jon Agne
No money for pre-existing conditions! :-) On Nov 23, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > I was thinking several $million for mental distress and public humiliation. > > > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > >> Dunno perhaps demand a 50 dollar gift voucher to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Long shot missed

2013-11-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Not a bad idea, but considering where Craig lives there is probably an excess of such qualified folks... Along those lines, get certificated to teach and do some substitute teaching, I can't tell what the criteria is for substitutes, but looking at the NMDoE the requirements for alternative ce