Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Randy Bennell
Now that part makes sense! Sometimes the building inspectors won't even let you use screws. Nails have more resistence to shear if I understand right. Unless you buy the right screws. Simpson Strong Tie folks have special screws intended for use with some of their fasteners for example. A

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Randy Bennell
And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber so that the chemical does not eat the screw. On 29/04/2014 8:21 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh..

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Funny you mention that. The builders place I go to for my stuff told me that the special screws were no better than the regular galvanized/coated deck screws with the new formulation of the treating treatment stuff. They don't even carry the special screws. Stainless steel if you must then,

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Randy Bennell
I guess it depends on who you talk to. I have been using the ceramic coated screws with treated lumber. Not sure the stainless ones are any better. Actual hot dipped galvanized would be nice but harder to come by. The gold anodized ones rust pretty quickly so I don't think I would use them

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread OK Don
Wouldn't plain steel nails corrode even more than coated screws? On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I guess it depends on who you talk to. I have been using the ceramic coated screws with treated lumber. Not sure the stainless ones are any better.

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread G Mann
The shear load rating for a #8 nail is 300 lbs. Old dry timbers are very prone to cracking and spliting. I would not use screws for that reason but instead, use nails with a good pattern to avoid splitting the grain of the old stud. Also I would use the best glue and clamps to achieve as perfect

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I believe in a belt and suspenders, and screws over nails, too! Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Now that part makes sense! Sometimes the building inspectors won't even let you use screws. Nails have more resistence to shear

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I keep a box of 3 square drive deck screws on the shelf as a one size fits all thing. I love them for just about any rough lumber project. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Dan Penoff
If it's old, dry, or brittle I drill a pilot hole. Nothing worse than running a screw down only to hear the wood cracking as you do so. With the quick swap drill attachments it's easy and quick to do. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2014, at 12:50 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Randy Bennell
I agree in regard to the pre-drilled holes. Another choice might be to through-bolt. When one is doing it for one's self one can often do much more than a trades person would do. They sort of have to do things quickly to earn a reasonable income without bankrupting the property owner. We as the

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Curt Raymond
I've been using Scorpion brand square drive deck screws, way better than trying to drive phillips head... -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:21:47 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Building question

Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Funny you should mention that. I'm building a shed to put snowmobiles in. It'll be 4x4 posts with a shelf at 48 and a roof over top. This year it'll get wrapped in a green tarp, next year it might get T111 siding if finances allow. Keeping the machines out under tarps all summer is hard on

Re: [MBZ] Spam from Curt, was: Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah, this is that thing what was talked about the other day. My email isn't actually coming from Yahoo to you, it goes through the listserve, gmail is balking at the listserve rebadging. Have you added me as a contact? That might help. -Curt Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:16:57 -0500 From: OK Don

Re: [MBZ] Spam from Curt, was: Building question

2014-04-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah, this is that thing what was talked about the other day. My email isn't actually coming from Yahoo to you, it goes through the listserve, gmail is balking at the listserve rebadging. Have you added me as a contact? That might help. -Curt Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:16:57 -0500 From: OK Don

[MBZ] 123 fog light update

2014-04-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Hey folks, Recently I was out in my garage and found one of my spare amber 123 fog lights. As I'd expected its not a sealed beam. I took some pictures for evidence. http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/4224A046-DBC5-464E-8224-3E6956DBD916-13022-06D99FDD195C_zpsd1ea6d5c.jpg

Re: [MBZ] test

2014-04-29 Thread Mountain Man
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Re: [MBZ] test

2014-04-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
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[MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

2014-04-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://pueblo.craigslist.org/cto/4446867950.html -- Sent from cPRO for iPhone, iPod and iPad Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

2014-04-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://pueblo.craigslist.org/cto/4446867950.html Enough room in there to bring Kristen's kids on your summer vacation. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

2014-04-29 Thread Craig
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:45:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://pueblo.craigslist.org/cto/4446867950.html Interesting location, up in the mountains northwest of Pueblo. 450,000 km = 279,617 miles What OM does it use? How much do they have left after 280 kmi? What

Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

2014-04-29 Thread OK Don
I wonder if the front airbags that need to be replaced are for the kneeling function? If so, will they be hard to source and can it be driven without them? YES, Kaleb NEEDS it On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:45:08 -0500 Kaleb