Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

>From the outside ;) Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > The Leaf is one fugly car. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > The Leaf is one fugly car. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

I agree with that. A lot of electric car craze is feel good environmentalism. 38% of power still comes from coal. I will stick with ULSD & no illusions. On Aug 16, 2014 9:37 AM, "dseretakis--- via Mercedes" wrote: > And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of > 60-80

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. Would have worked great when I lived 17 miles from work. That would have given me enough excess capacity to use the climate control without overly discharging the battery.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

38% of power still comes from coal. Here in WA it's something like 80% hydroelectric. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mai

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

Once again, no one vehicle is right/best for all mission profiles. An electric car is fine for most urban driving. One would be fine for my wife's trips into town every week where she drives an average of 25 - 30 miles round trip. It would not be good for a road trip - that's what Diesels are for!

[MBZ] Insurance Comparison

Randy, I was chatting with a Canadian guy on one of the other forums I frequent about (aboot?) car insurance. Is it significantly different in Canada compared to the States, or are you familiar with our car insurance system here? Just curious Dan ___ ht

Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison

When I lived in Ontario about 20 years ago, insurance was better and half the cost, at least for me. It was also no-fault. BC in those days had single payer Provencial insurance, it was half what you paid in Ontario. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com T

Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison

I was curious as to whether it was a provincial thing and if they had some form of no-fault, too. I hate no-fault. For one car in Florida I pay as much as what it cost to cover three in Indiana (no no-fault.) Just got my endorsement for the next six months. My S500 and SL500 cost about $600

Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison

I wonder if some of the cost difference between Canada and US is the personal injury coverage (Canada has "free" healthcare, so that part of auto insurance is far less expensive?). Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives ht

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

The problem is that then your existence becomes regimented. Suppose you decide on your commute back that you need to stop by place X or some urgent matter comes up and you need to drive to place Y? You have to drive home and swap cars. Majorly inconvenient if you ask me. Until an electric car c

[MBZ] OT Cars Coffee

The monthly cars and coffee was down the road this morning. One car caught my attention as I was walking around. Brick Volvo wagon 245DL (I think) lowered with fat tires. Walked around the front and it had a big V8 stuffed in the front and a 5speed manual. Other than that it looked like

Re: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee

‎No pictures?  :( Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Rich Thomas Subject: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee The monthly cars and coffee was down the road this morning. 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

One hundred years ago electric cars were a common sight on city streets in Europe and the United States. Many of them had a range comparable to that of today's EV's . Below is an overview

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

That's the one thing I think I would find an EV to be a PITA for. While I rarely stop on the way home for anything, if I need to I need to, and it would be really inconvenient to have to go home and swap cars just because I wouldn't have the range to make a side trip. Dan On Aug 16, 2014, at

[MBZ] Fw: OT: Sacrilege

‎My original reply went to Don only...  I forgot to add Mercedes Discussion Group.  Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Rick Knoble Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:32 AM To: okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege ‎Original Message   From: OK Do

Re: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee

I was on my bike ride, had my phone but was too lazy to get it out of the plastic bag and take piccies. It'll probably be back again, I'll get some pics. --R On 8/16/14 11:25 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: ‎No pictures? :( Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Messag

[MBZ] Benz pR0n at Monterey

Along with some other German iron http://jalopnik.com/the-best-of-legends-of-the-autobahn-1622456816 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebe

[MBZ] OT: Ugly cars

I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building a "wooden car", such as this one, would be interesting, and it would be a strong contender in an ugly car contest: http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0

[MBZ] Test Message

Testing due to a domain transfer Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the r

Re: [MBZ] Test Message

‎You passed... Or failed... Or whatever the correct / incorrect response is... Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Ugly cars

The humans were driving one in the first Terminator movie. --R On 8/16/14 1:36 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building a "wooden car", such as this one, woul

Re: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee

That's what you should do with your '79 wagon. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 16, 2014 11:23 AM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" wrote: > > The monthly cars and coffee was down the road this morning. One car caught my attention as I was walking around. Brick Volvo wagon 245DL (I think) lowered wi

Re: [MBZ] OT: Ugly cars

That picture is classic, with the fiery clouds in the background. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 16, 2014 1:56 PM, "Archer75--- via Mercedes" wrote: > I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore > them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building

Re: [MBZ] Test Message

Test received. On Aug 16, 2014 2:51 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Testing due to a domain transfer > > Dan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Test Message

On 8/16/2014 2:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Testing due to a domain transfer Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mail

Re: [MBZ] Test Message

Thanks everyone. I see my message so my alternate email is working. Gotta get away from the Germans at 1&1. After over two weeks of their MX servers being blocked by everyone because of spam I just had to move my hosting and domains elsewhere. I'm transferring voer to GoDaddy. At least they'

Re: [MBZ] Review for the 3.5

I much prefer that sort of ride in a classic car than in a newer import. There are many lower cost "volks" wagons on the road that do much the same rattle, jounce, and noise, but with much less elan. Toyota and all that like are so loosely built they make long drives very stressful. #1 boy

Re: [MBZ] Test Message

You failed Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Testing due to a domain transfer > > Dan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscr

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

And the sole coal plant is being retrofitted to NG in a few years. The coal trains that supplied it are now being repurposed to load ships headed to the orient. Wind farms are sprouting up all over the state. Natural gas plants are not getting built, but solar is growing, and the older hydro

Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison

They still have single payer Provincial in BC. Better than most of the stuff below the 49th parallel. You can purchase private to cover special needs, but still seems much less expensive to do that than what I pay in Seattle clay On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote

Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison

They also have a less litigious society clay On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I wonder if some of the cost difference between Canada and US is the > personal injury coverage (Canada has "free" healthcare, so that part of > auto insurance is far less expensive?). >

Re: [MBZ] Test Message

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:15:46 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Thanks everyone. I see my message so my alternate email is working. > > Gotta get away from the Germans at 1&1. After over two weeks of their > MX servers being blocked by everyone because of spam I just had to move > my hosti

[MBZ] Liquid Penetrants

__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 10267 (20140816) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arch

Re: [MBZ] Liquid Penetrants

On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Jerry Herrman via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have had little success with stubborn handles (on a splined shaft) > despite applying "Liquid Wrench" over a period of days and using a puller > intended for the purpose. Applying too much force usually

Re: [MBZ] OT: Ugly cars

I actually like the Aztek. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore > them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building a "wooden > car", such as this on

Re: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee

There was a special on one of the many Auto TV shows last weekend featuring an Ex-Paul Newman Volvo station wagon - it had a Corvette engine/tranny and suspension. But outside it looked bone stock! A very cool car - I think they were making the rounds to prepare for an auction... LarryT

Re: [MBZ] Liquid Penetrants

sing a puller intended for the purpose. Applying too much force usually results in breaking the faucet handle. Could it be that this type of product won't penetrate in this area? Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 10267 (20

Re: [MBZ] Liquid Penetrants

> Jerry wrote: > > I have come to appreciate the benefits of applying penetrants > such as "Liquid Wrench" prior to dismantling metal fasteners > I have had little success with stubborn handles (on a splined > shaft) despite applying "Liquid Wrench" over a period of days and > using a puller in

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

As usual, follow the money... LarryT On 8/16/2014 3:58 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: And the sole coal plant is being retrofitted to NG in a few years. The coal trains that supplied it are now being repurposed to load ships headed to the orient. Wind farms are sprouting up all over the stat

[MBZ] Don't think I have seen this done

1989 Mercedes 420SEL Diesel http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/4618438742.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz

[MBZ] OT - Mercedes (Smart) engine in a motorcycle

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/17/4639/Motorcycle-Article/Track-T800CDI-Diesel-Motorcycle-Quick-Ride.aspx Diesel bike converted to run on biofuel made from bacon grease for Hormel promo. When biodiesel was all the rage a few years ago, it was a running joke that you could get behind a car powered

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege point

I think you lot are missing the point somewhat, the leaf et al are aimed more at the short commute market, which is more typical of Europe, Japan and inner suburbia I suppose. Also Australia has bugger all oil but loads of coal, so on the basis of sustainability it would make sense to have EVs i

Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

As I was taught in ROTC - PP (prior planning prevents piss poor performance). On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:06 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The problem is that then your existence becomes regimented. Suppose you > decide on your commute back that you need to

Re: [MBZ] Benz pR0n at Monterey

What is the car in the second photo - the blue and white roadster. It looks like it might be on a VW chassis? It strikes me that the only "classy" cars there are all Benz's On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Along with some other Ger

Re: [MBZ] Benz pR0n at Monterey

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:03:24 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Along with some other German iron > > > > http://jalopnik.com/the-best-of-legends-of-the-autobahn-1622456816 > > What is the car in t