Re: [MBZ] Subject:1986 300SDL CL

2015-03-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes, pre-rodbender. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is that an OM603? > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of

Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

2015-03-01 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Peter wrote: >One more blast of cold air and   >low temps below 10F and I think >winter is done. ‎ I hope you're right Peter. Two miserable winters in a row is enough for a few years... ‎ >I'm ready for spring. That would make at least two of us.  Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 _

Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

2015-03-01 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
It was actually above freezing today! One more blast of cold air and low temps below 10F and I think winter is done. I'm ready for spring. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

2015-03-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Should I mention that we had to turn on the AC today? Guess not Dan > On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >>> The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . . > >

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I can see why you hate it now. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've used it twice and blocked two thermostats, the second one leading to a > bad head gasket in my wagon. Never more. > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Did you use it in the 78 240D? On Mar 1, 2015 10:40 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > I've used it twice and blocked two thermostats, the second one leading to > a bad head gasket in my wagon. Never more. > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've used it twice and blocked two thermostats, the second one leading to a bad head gasket in my wagon. Never more. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Why do you hate it? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > If it was done it was before I got the car. I hate that stuff.. > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com >

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Not when i had it or when my brother had it. Don't know before that. I think it is a speculative stretch. On Mar 1, 2015 10:25 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > If it was done it was before I got the car. I hate that stuff.. > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If it was done it was before I got the car. I hate that stuff.. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

2015-03-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . . Too bad I use charcoal. My goal was to get the tank under 50 gallons without running out this winter. December/January were so cold that I panicked a bit and

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they w

Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

2015-03-01 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . . That's going to take awhile! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
He told you - it was free. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I am looking for another gl but have thought about ml, what did you pay > for it? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 1, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > merc

Re: [MBZ] Subject:1986 300SDL CL

2015-03-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Methinks he doth protest too much. Ask him what it would take to make the car PERFECT. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is that an OM603? > On Mar 1, 2015 8:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >

Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

2015-03-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I spent the weekend installing cold air blockers in outlets on outside walls and attaching weatherstrip to seal two leaky patio doors. Don't know why I waited this long... On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:30 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I am SO glad that I'm not heating with propane this last month

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I am looking for another gl but have thought about ml, what did you pay for it? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > So we went back this aft to finalize the deal. We did some .99% financing, > basically free money. We are going through all t

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So we went back this aft to finalize the deal. We did some .99% financing, basically free money. We are going through all the docs, Guy shoves over the final contract, I look at it and WTF is this number? The numbers on the contract do not match what we agreed on, the doc fee reappeared and the

Re: [MBZ] Subject:1986 300SDL CL

2015-03-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Is that an OM603? On Mar 1, 2015 8:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It's on the high side > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Bob via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > http://lancaster.craigslist.org/cto/4835657550.html > > > > Is this a good

Re: [MBZ] Subject:1986 300SDL CL

2015-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's on the high side Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Bob via Mercedes wrote: > > http://lancaster.craigslist.org/cto/4835657550.html > > Is this a good car/ deal ?? Notice that his daily driver is a 240d '83. > This is above Philly > > Bob > __

Re: [MBZ] Subject:1986 300SDL CL

2015-03-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'd say yes, if he can get the sticker off of the trunk lid without removing paint :-) On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Bob via Mercedes wrote: > http://lancaster.craigslist.org/cto/4835657550.html > > Is this a good car/ deal ?? Notice that his daily driver is a 240d '83. > This is above Phill

Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

2015-03-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I am SO glad that I'm not heating with propane this last month! It was 16F yesterday morning, and the aux heat strip in the geothermal heat pump did NOT turn on! The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . . On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < merc

[MBZ] Subject:1986 300SDL CL

2015-03-01 Thread Bob via Mercedes
http://lancaster.craigslist.org/cto/4835657550.html Is this a good car/ deal ?? Notice that his daily driver is a 240d '83. This is above Philly Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or cha

Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Lost coolant may not be obvious just by looking in the radiator if there is an air bubble in the block. I assume this car doesn't have a coolant recovery tank (my 123 didn't). I found it best to test for coolant system leaks using a pressure tester on a cold engine. Wet spots from small leaks

Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

2015-03-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Hmm. My house consumed 500 gallons of heating oil in one month with the thermostat set at 57 degrees. I just spent $600 to have ice dams removed from my roof but they were so thick that they are now only 1 foot thick at the eaves. I'm not liking this winter and

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Question: At any time in this engines life, has it been dosed with crack sealant? If it has, there is a better than fair chance that there is a ball of that material floating through the cooling passages. It is a mixture of aluminum filings and an agent that congeals when heated. The principle t

Re: [MBZ] Old airbag

2015-03-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: These things are obviously harmless since they are designed to explode in peoples faces. Just sit on it and pull the trigger. If it doesn't prove to be all that safe, you would be a strong candidate for a Darwin Award. Younger dudes than Max have gotten multipl

[MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: dsereta...@yahoo.com > Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:45:40 PM EST > To: OK Don > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info > > That was my impression as well. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:59 PM, OK Don wrote: >> >> I

[MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: dsereta...@yahoo.com > Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST > To: G Mann > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info > > If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant > system. > > Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power outages. Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and

Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
It lost some coolant but could be from known area around tstat housing cover. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes > wrote: > > What’s the coolant level? > > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Pressurized hoses on a

Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Were the car mine, I would be very interested in why the system is still pressurized after setting overnight.. Dead cold cooling systems should not have pressure, so , to me, it speaks of combustion air incursion into the cooling system and likely, serious over pressure somehow.. although, the rad

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Gad... is there no end to this.. now we have "undocumented Mercedes owners?" Hah! What next, Jeb Bush running as an "undocumented Democrat"? On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So you're undocumented? No path to documentation? > >

Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes - good question, are you losing coolant? You've got at least one leak you know of, really need to fix that. Pressurized coolant system in the a.m. may or may not be a problem. Definitive test is to sample the coolant for presence of exhaust gas. Is 250 miles without an over-heat a signifi

Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
What’s the coolant level? > On Mar 1, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Pressurized hoses on a cold engine is not a good sign. This is typical of a > head problem. > > If it is more convenient, you can "borrow" a cooling system pressure tester > from most FLAPS for fr

Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Pressurized hoses on a cold engine is not a good sign. This is typical of a head problem. If it is more convenient, you can "borrow" a cooling system pressure tester from most FLAPS for free. Actually, they charge it to your credit card when you get it and refund to your card when you return it.

Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I thought that a pressurized system in the AM is the result of a cracked head or leaking head gasket. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:53 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So I've driven the car now for 250 miles with blocked open tstat and no > overheating. I'm noticing

Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
So I've driven the car now for 250 miles with blocked open tstat and no overheating. I'm noticing that the cooling system is pressurized in the mornings. This morning I noticed that the upper and lower radiator hoses were moderately swollen, and there was a puff of air when I removed radiator c

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So you're undocumented? No path to documentation? On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:38 AM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes, indeed! > > Wilton > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > > What is even better is the willingness to walk, and to do it. That's > one thing my D

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread wiltonw--- via Mercedes
Yes, indeed! Wilton Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > What is even better is the willingness to walk, and to do it. That's one > thing my Dad always emphasized - there's nothing more terrifying to a car > salesman than to have someone on the hook to walk out. > > Dan > > > > On Mar 1,

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What is even better is the willingness to walk, and to do it. That's one thing my Dad always emphasized - there's nothing more terrifying to a car salesman than to have someone on the hook to walk out. Dan > On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:24 AM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > ATTABOY! > > Es

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread wiltonw--- via Mercedes
ATTABOY! Especially well done re. sticking it to 'em on the BS they call "documention fee." 'Can't think of anything I dislike any more than dealing with a car salesman. Wilton Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > Went with wifey and bought a 2012 ML V-6 bluejuice turbodizzel this > after

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Sounds great, congrats! Those diesels are awesome. Jaime On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Went with wifey and bought a 2012 ML V-6 bluejuice turbodizzel this > afternoon. Somewhat unpleasant experience dealing with the stealer. They

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Congrats! Double congrats for not paying that "documentation" fee!! I look forward to seeing the new Q ship. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 28, 2015 11:15:44 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: >Went with wifey and bought a 2012 ML V-6 bluejuice turbodizzel thi

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
They had a black/black E63 wagon sitting in the showroom too. I will admit I sinned multiple times with Lust In My Heart. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Hard acceleration in turns seems to be the sort of thing that does the most har

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Hard acceleration in turns seems to be the sort of thing that does the most harm. I'm a poky driver these days, so I'd not have much trouble I don't think, but with all that torque it may be an issue! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list arch

Re: [MBZ] ML

2015-03-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yeah I tested that! --R Sent from iPhone > On Feb 28, 2015, at 11:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > If it has stability control, be careful to stay below speeds were it actuates > (it doesn't necessarily announce that), otherwise you can experience very > short brake and tire