All,
Sunday past I had a few hours to work on front seats in The White Whale.
Swapped out the entire bottom seat cushion / spring assembly on the
driver's seat with a nice condition used passenger seat. I wasted a lot of
time attempting to replace that while leaving the seat in the car, but just
I have no idea what you're ranting about. Take a chill pill.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Andy Sez: Your point? That was 50 yrs. Ago.
>>
>
> 2010 was 50 years ago?My math says Sheets Byrd, the grand wizzer of
> the KKK was a (D
'Nother ATTABOY!
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To: "Mercedes"
Cc: "Meade Dillon"
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:17 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 front seat controls
All,
Sunday past I had a few hours to work on front seats in The White Whale.
Swapped out the ent
Good thinking. Actually something like that could be very useful packed along
on a motorcycle.
My '82 Honda CB900 has always been a bitch to start when cold, the battery is
really too small but theres not much space for one. Lithium ion would be a good
choice power wise but considering its locat
With a completely dead, your wife left the lights on all night, battery?
We accidentally left the dome light on in our '85 190D at the airport once. The
airport provides a jump but it had to run for a long time before the car
would crank over. Between the high current demand of the glow plugs
How about I make a video to demonstrate.
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> On Mar 1, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> With a completely dead, your wife left the lights on all night, battery?
> We accidentally left the dome light on in our '85 190D at the airport once.
> The airpor
My HF meters (2 different ones, bought on the same day) hunt like crazy.
Sometimes I have to shut them off and turn them back on to get a consistent
reading. Maybe this is normal for digital meters? This is why I really like my
RS analog...
-Curt
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To: Merc
Okay but remember to use a battery thats already on its way out, draining one
down like I'm talking about is pretty hard on them...
In the case of my 190D the dome light wouldn't even come on.
Theres a limit to how much power you can pull through the weeny little cables
on them too, even if the b
Cheap meter means the inputs aren't damped well. Better meters like the Flukes
sample more rapidly but also filter/dampen the input signal so the display
isn't bouncing all over the place.
There are some times that good old Simpson 260-6 is a better choice
Dan
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> On Mar 1
Andrew wrote:
> I have no idea what you're ranting about. Take a chill pill.
Perhaps Curly is Republicrat that don't want Trump?
Chill sounds decent. The masses think we have choice. That ain't happenin'
mao
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I just encountered a dead jetta situation yesterday. No jump box
would have mattered.
Young female Doctor friend of my daughter. Wrecked her car 60 miles
away Sat. Got a rental car, Jetta, and drove it home. Yesterday I
volunteered to ride with her back to get stuff out of her car in the
Yes, please. With REALLY dead batteries?
Wilton
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Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin"
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Your jump starter
How about I make a video to demonstrate.
Maybe this is normal for digital meters?
No, not even close. But moving signals will confuse any user and/
or meter. The faster the conversion the less the moving signal
will confuse you with a digital meter, assuming it's built right.
The Flukes I have all have an analog bargraph that convert
There are some times that good old Simpson 260-6 is a better choice
Yes, I have one too. (It has a few issues, though.) I also have
a number of Heathkit VTVM's, and an EICO VTVM.
The only one that comes out to play, though, 99% of the time
is the Fluke 83.
-- Jim
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On 01/03/2016 10:34 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
There are some times that good old Simpson 260-6 is a better choice
Yes, I have one too. (It has a few issues, though.) I also have
a number of Heathkit VTVM's, and an EICO VTVM.
The only one that comes out to play, though, 99% of th
As Donald would say, Curly is a very nice man. We have known each other
for years. I invited him to my 3rd divorce party at Moron Wacko and he had
a wonderful time. We walked the course at the Pebble Beach pro am and he
did a TERRIFIC job carrying my bag.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Mounta
On 01/03/2016 10:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I just encountered a dead jetta situation yesterday. No jump box would
have mattered.
Young female Doctor friend of my daughter. Wrecked her car 60 miles
away Sat. Got a rental car, Jetta, and drove it home. Yesterday I
volunteered to
Garages often have a big old bus or semi truck battery on a 2 wheel
cart with jumper cables.
RB
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I think the HF meters have bad internal connections. I was kind of joking when
I wrote the below. I see the rapid jumping around doing pretty benign things
like reading battery voltage...
-Curt
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To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016
Theres one on eBay right now for ~$90. I might jump at it.
-Curt
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Cc: Jim Cathey ; Dan Penoff
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
> There are some times that good old Simpson 260-6 is a b
I'm surprised the dinger didn't go bonkers. On my Jetta and Golf you can hear
it from outside the car with the door closed and the windows up.
VWs have had DRL (day time running lamps) since at least '98, probably earlier
but I can't remember when the A3s started. The switch really just turns on
On 01/03/2016 10:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I just encountered a dead jetta situation yesterday. No jump box
would have mattered.
Young female Doctor friend of my daughter. Wrecked her car 60
miles away Sat. Got a rental car, Jetta, and drove it home.
Yesterday I volunteered to
As Donald would say, Curly is a very nice man. We have known each other
for years. I invited him to my 3rd divorce party at Moron Wacko and he had
a wonderful time. We walked the course at the Pebble Beach pro am and he
did a TERRIFIC job carrying my bag.
BZZZT wrong. Never been on a goof co
On 01/03/2016 10:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
I'm surprised the dinger didn't go bonkers. On my Jetta and Golf you can hear
it from outside the car with the door closed and the windows up.
VWs have had DRL (day time running lamps) since at least '98, probably earlier
but I can't reme
You've looked at VWs to confirm that? On my cars anyway ('98 Jetta, '05 Golf)
the DRLs are full brightness. I was surprised when I first got the Jetta.
You're right about the tail lights, I forgot that. I've had to point it out to
Angie a couple times. One of these days I'll make her get out of
I'm surprised the dinger didn't go bonkers. On my Jetta and Golf you
can hear it from outside the car with the door closed and the
windows up.
VWs have had DRL (day time running lamps) since at least '98,
probably earlier but I can't remember when the A3s started. The
switch really just turns o
Yeah my Golf has that horrible plastic cover. I had to watch a Youtube video to
figure out how to get the dammed thing off. Some engineer thinks he's a genius
for that design...
-Curt
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As Donald would say, Curly is a liar. Maybe the biggest liar ever.
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Places I used to work at usually had a couple of 8D batteries in parallel on a
wheeled cart with gauge locomotive (welding) cable. If the 8Ds would not
crank it, it's not going to start.
Dan
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> On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Garage
That's all pretty funny. Don is a rich guy, much richer than either of
you loosers, you will never be as rich as The Don because your loosers.
Get them out of here!
--R
On 3/1/16 11:49 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
As Donald would say, Curly is a very nice man. We have known each ot
I have one of those and some other massive thing out in the garage, the
Simpson is in a nice leather case and needs a battery cable put on,
which I have but have not put on yet. My Dad got them back in the 60s
from work when they were upgrading all theirs, he used them occasionally
when he was
I recently replaced the Extech EX330 (which has decided that it will NOT
display anything at any time, at all. The NCV sensor still works if it has
batteries, so I didn't throw it out) with this one that will measure almost
anything except the speed of light - -
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0
I used to have a Simpson 260-6 in a roll top case. Man, was that thing a beast!
But it worked well and was reliable as heck.
I built lots of Heathkits but never one of their meters. I still have my first
Heathkits, an alarm clock with a green Nixie sort of display.
Dan
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> On
I just wet my pants = saw it in the full length mirror.
On Mar 1, 2016 2:06 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes"
wrote:
> That's all pretty funny. Don is a rich guy, much richer than either of
> you loosers, you will never be as rich as The Don because your loosers.
> Get them out of here!
>
> --R
>
>
Give them a brake, Rich. There both good people.
Dan
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> On Mar 1, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> That's all pretty funny. Don is a rich guy, much richer than either of you
> loosers, you will never be as rich as The Don because your loosers. Get th
I need a full length mirror because it's YOGE!
--R
On 3/1/16 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I just wet my pants = saw it in the full length mirror.
On Mar 1, 2016 2:06 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes"
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
That's all pretty funny. Don is a rich gu
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:32:02 -0600
Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> >The new era of hand build MBs is coming:
> >
> >http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/why-mercedes-is-halting-robots-reign-on-the-production-line/ar-BBpYcTm?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=edgsp
> >
> >--
> >OK Don
>
> Translati
Gerry writes:
>One theory is that Merkel, who >grew up in Communist East >Germany, doesn't
>understand >modern West Germany and its >people.
Another theory is that with an aging population, and declining birth rates,
they could have immigrants come in and work, pay taxes and continue the pyram
That looks like a lotta meter for the price!
-Curt
From: OK Don
To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
I recently replaced the Extech EX330 (which has decided that it will NOT
display anything at any time
Published: Tuesday, March 1, 2016
A self-driving Google Lexus SUV hit a public bus on a Silicon Valley street
on Valentine's Day.
The accident appears to be a first in a number of tests on self-driving
cars conducted by the tech company.
No one was injured when the car, outfitted with sensors an
Socialism, Communism, and Liberalism can only exist until they run out of
other peoples money to spend.
None of them generate a motivated working and contributing class of
citizens, all of them generate a society that depends on the largess of the
ruling class under the color of government power a
G Mann, ever the sunny optimist. To paraphrase Reagan, "It's Mourning in
America."
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:17 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> Socialism, Communism, and Liberalism can only exist until they run out of
> other peoples money to spend.
>
> None of them generate a motivated working
Indeed - time will tell if it was really worth it though.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> That looks like a lotta meter for the price!
> -Curt
>
> From: OK Don
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.c
Reminds me of a local civil suit a number of years ago.
A big yellow school bus broke down and was parked on the shoulder of the
road - on a 4 lane highway.
A young lady riding a bicycle ran into the back of it and injured
herself quite badly.
She sued and the argument was that it would not
I can see Google hasn't driven in many big cities with buses all over
the place, at least in places where it is generally assumed a larger
vehicle has the ROW. I wonder how their autopilots would fare in Boston
("if you don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk") where
driving is a con
OK so I just sent out to a 603 powered vehicle with my little jump
pack, I just unhooked the battery which I guess would be the same
as a completely dead battery, hooked the pack up, glowed it which
all went as normal, and it cranked and almost wanted to start but
would not spin over quite fast
Says the fellow with the government job.
Not quite the same being self employed.
RB
On 01/03/2016 3:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
G Mann, ever the sunny optimist. To paraphrase Reagan, "It's Mourning in
America."
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:17 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
Soc
On 01/03/2016 3:54 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
I can see Google hasn't driven in many big cities with buses all over
the place, at least in places where it is generally assumed a larger
vehicle has the ROW. I wonder how their autopilots would fare in
Boston ("if you don't like the way
On 01/03/2016 3:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
OK so I just sent out to a 603 powered vehicle with my little jump
pack, I just unhooked the battery which I guess would be the same as a
completely dead battery, hooked the pack up, glowed it which all went
as normal, and it cranked
So, just as I thought, it can supplement a PARTIALLY dead battery, but can
have a SERIOUS problem supplying ALL of the power required for starting.
Wilt
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Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin"
Sent: Tuesday,
That was a cheap shot.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Says the fellow with the government job.
> Not quite the same being self employed.
>
> RB
>
> On 01/03/2016 3:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> G Mann, ever the sunn
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 20:35:14 +
Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Gerry writes:
>
> >One theory is that Merkel, who >grew up in Communist East >Germany, doesn't
> >understand >modern West Germany and its >people.
>
> Another theory is that with an aging population, and declining birth rates
'Sounds to me as if he destroyed it by using it to perform one of the major
uses we are seeing/hearing claimed - "start a car with DEAD (and/or
missing - same thing) battery." (Oh, just don't do it in a test, eh?) ;<)
Wilton
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From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes"
I'm not in a hurry, maybe I'll give you a couple months with it... ;)
-Curt
From: OK Don
To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
Indeed - time will tell if it was really worth it though.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016
Dunno, they're just outside of San Francisco.
One time Angie and I were on a San Francisco cable car, there was a lady in a
Land Rover hogging the the cable car lane. It was great fun when the gripman
bumped her Land Rover out of his lane, he'd been dinging the bell but she
didn't get the idea.
Actually with a dead battery its worse, you have to overcome the internal
resistance of the battery.
Look at the size of the battery cables on the car, then look at the size of the
leads on the jump pack, that tells the whole story...
-Curt
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To: Merced
Hard to argue with that logic, the purpose of the thing is to start cars after
all...
-Curt
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Cc: WILTON
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jump Packs
'Sounds to me as if he destroyed it by using it to perf
PNW is having a weather alert. Very high winds from 1200-2300.
Would those down south having your silly polling either speed it up, or stop.
Damnable politics
clay
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks
exactly. I guess I should try it with a completely dead battery
installed, maybe it makes a difference. I am not sure this jump
pack is dead and blown up though, I will see if it will charge and
go from there.
On 3/1/2016 4:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
So, just as I thought, it can supp
Holy hell, the wind we had last night was insane. Worse because it was constant
for about an hour... Took the garage door handle cover off.
-Curt
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Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 5:30 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Blow Hard Tuesday
PN
BUT, you folks have been arguing about diesels being different because
they require a lot of current, and if you don't think the little charger
pack can do it, then it is abusive to try until you melt the thing.
I hardly see that as fair to the vendor.
RB
On 01/03/2016 4:23 PM, Curt Raymond
'Sounds to me as if he destroyed it by using it to perform one of
the major uses we are seeing/hearing claimed - "start a car with
DEAD (and/or missing - same thing) battery." (Oh, just don't do it
in a test, eh?) ;<)
Wilton
"This is a scene filmed with professionals (and rigged results)"
OK so I just sent out to a 603 powered vehicle with my little jump
pack, I just unhooked the battery which I guess would be the same as
a completely dead battery, hooked the pack up, glowed it which all
went as normal, and it cranked and almost wanted to start but would
not spin over quite fast
Depends on what sort of absurd claims the manufacturer made. If they claim
it'll "Start your car every time" or something like that it sure ought to do
what they said.
That one the other day said it would start 10x 2.5l diesels...
-Curt
From: Randy Bennell
To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Dis
> > > Kaleb wrote:
> > >
> > > Mine will start several 300ds
> > Curt wrote:
> >
> > With a completely dead, your wife left the lights on all
> > night, battery?
> Kaleb wrote:
>
> How about I make a video to demonstrate.
How about using your little pack _instead_ of the group
49/H8/93 batt
> Curt wrote:
>
> Lithium ion would be a good choice power wise but
> considering its location right under my gentleman's region
> I'd be that much more upset should it catch fire as they
> are known to do...
Only one of the multiple chemistries of the lithium ion cell
is prone to fires. The oth
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:55:34 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
wrote:
> OK so I just sent out to a 603 powered vehicle with my little jump
> pack, I just unhooked the battery which I guess would be the same
> as a completely dead battery, hooked the pack up, glowed it which
> all went as n
The end is nigh!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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I think it is awesome. Being an engineer you never know the limits
until you do the smoke test. Blowing sh*t up is a time-honored
tradition. I love it.
--R
On 3/1/16 5:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
BUT, you folks have been arguing about diesels being different because
they req
Since you had the camera on, you should have kept trying to crank it until
it burst into flames - THAT would make a good video!
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> In the process I am pretty sure I blew up the jumper as it got very hot
Well, on the good side, it DID have enough juice to melt the scrawny cable.
OK Don Sez: Since you had the camera on, you should have kept trying
to crank it until
it burst into flames - THAT would make a good video!
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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