Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Jim C

2016-03-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Will a '96 do? Not if it's an automatic! Also, probably too new. The latest thinking is, with bull fiddle probably actually off the table, that our 1986 190D 2.5 with a stick shift will be the ticket. And, we already own it. Double benefit! -- Jim ___ h

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-14 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
The possibilities I can think of are: 1. Debris from previously destroyed compressor periodically blocking open either the expansion valve or a valve in the compressor. 2. Low voltage to clutch or electrical control system at low rpm. (Wiring corrosion? Defective relay? Defective PC board?) 3.

Re: [MBZ] Signed up with Hagerty

2016-03-14 Thread clay via Mercedes
Not even Karma value. How do I keep sliding down hill no matter how fast I run up? clay On Mar 14, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > "No cash value" > > --R > > On 3/14/16 9:45 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: >> And if I save her some cash, I even get points. At a much reduc

Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Automation?

2016-03-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Any of you do home automation or security using Z-wave, 2-gig or Zigbee protocols? Greg Contact Tim Chipman here: http://www.constructivity.com/about.htm He can either answer your questions or direct you to the right places. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

2016-03-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
So do the OM603s have issues with glow plug removal? Dan Only if you try to do it with the intake manifold on. Book procedure is to take off the manifold and put in a new $10 gasket. Many of us change em with the manifold on. Pretty much the same glow plug as an OM 616 or 617. Bosch numb

Re: [MBZ] 123 temperature control switch??

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The seller indicated on his chart that the part applied to a 1981 - 1985 300TD. Models: 240 D 81-83, 280 CE 81-81, 280 E 81-81, 300 D 81-81, 300 TD 80-81, *300 TD TURBODIESEL 81-85* == Chassis: 123033/222, 123053/223, 123123/222, 123130/222, 123190/318, 123193/318 == Engines: 08505

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I am not a great detail person, tend to miss spots. That's why I prefer conventional car washes and waxes. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Ahhh, you didn't make that clear. > > Does spending an hour a year to clean your finish really put

Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

2016-03-14 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
You get the risk of head cracking and rod bending. Do you have a spare head stored away? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 14, 2016 9:52:38 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >So do the OM603s have issues with glow plug removal? > >Dan > >Sent from my iPad > __

Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

2016-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > So do the OM603s have issues with glow plug removal? > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> No, the OM606 heads are pretty bullet-pr

Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

2016-03-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
123 dash lights are so notoriously dim the brightest bulbs you can fit are the best ones... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"G Mann" Date:Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:23 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs Something worth looking into is that LED bulbs are available is several variations of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Automation?

2016-03-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have a tortie that does the same. We have issues with her drowning out the sound of the Bosch dishwasher. Dan King Kitty Sent from my iPad > On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not exactly, but we do have an 18 pound black Cat who can generate two > bar

Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

2016-03-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So do the OM603s have issues with glow plug removal? Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 12, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > No, the OM606 heads are pretty bullet-proof. Glow plugs are the only > weakness. > > I've been working on these for about eight hours now. Patienc

Re: [MBZ] Signed up with Hagerty

2016-03-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
"No cash value" --R On 3/14/16 9:45 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: And if I save her some cash, I even get points. At a much reduced rate. Like coupon value. 1/20 of $0.01. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arch

Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Jim C

2016-03-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Will a '96 do? http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5447756312.html On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:28 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > Just drove 100mi today with my 83 300TD towing a trailer loaded with > another trailer carrying a smoker made of a 250 gal propane tank. It has > only 268,000 mi on it. But i

[MBZ] Signed up with Hagerty

2016-03-14 Thread clay via Mercedes
Talk about painless. Filled out the online form, post a few pix and make payment. Triple the coverage, at least, and cut cost by half. USAA would probably have given it a value around $5k, but with Hagerty, agreed value is now $18k. This should cover most of the damage I can incur in any m

Re: [MBZ] 123 temperature control switch??

2016-03-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
This supposedly fits my car but where does it go? How do I know that I need one? What is its purpose? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-temperature-control-switch-1238200410-123-chassis-/162007020702?hash=item25b85ef49e:g:yVsAAOSwsB9WAskO&vxp=mtr ___ Ye

Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It

2016-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
A place called OEM auto parts and accessories. Did not anyone know about this place? They got all kinds of stuff on here with diagrams and part numbers. I got the right side in the left side for $17 each. I also got a windshield washer Reservoir for like 31 bucks. Autohaus charged me $54 and sent m

Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

2016-03-14 Thread MG via Mercedes
Thanks Curt, They are on order. Manfred -- Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:59:24 + (UTC) From: Curt Raymond Sorry for the slow reply but I had to do some research. Back in 2010 I bought these:?https://www.ledlight.com/t10-wedge-5-ultra-bright-smt-led-light.aspxThe

Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Jim C

2016-03-14 Thread MG via Mercedes
Just drove 100mi today with my 83 300TD towing a trailer loaded with another trailer carrying a smoker made of a 250 gal propane tank. It has only 268,000 mi on it. But it will still run 70 with that small a load, even up hills, such as they are around here. Manfred BTW what's a '94 Ovlov 960

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The compressor is running the whole time. Clutch and compressor new and nothing is slipping. I just put the gauges in it and it has a static pressure high and low the same. I revved the engine up and it is like it woke it up and pressure started acting normal and it started cooling. Sent from m

Re: [MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-14 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Last summer the ac in the ML started only working part time even though > compressor was running. It got worse to the point that it never cooled. > Hooked gauges up and it was not building any pressure even though properly > charged. I ordered a new compressor and dr

[MBZ] Part time AC

2016-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Last summer the ac in the ML started only working part time even though compressor was running. It got worse to the point that it never cooled. Hooked gauges up and it was not building any pressure even though properly charged. I ordered a new compressor and drier and swapped it out and charged.

Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It

2016-03-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Also known as whachamacallit. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "WILTON" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It Yep. Cowl or cowling. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bob R

Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It

2016-03-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep. Cowl or cowling. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Bob Rentfro" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It Cowl is correct. $17 a side. Bob R On Mar 14, 2016 1:31 PM, "WILTON vi

Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Automation?

2016-03-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Yeah, but that noise could actually attract cat burglars! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT

Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It

2016-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Where at? I have several I need to replace Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Cowl is correct. $17 a side. > > Bob R > On Mar 14, 2016 1:31 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> Wiper fairing or wiper area fairing? I don't know; just

Re: [MBZ] 123 temperature control switch??

2016-03-14 Thread clay via Mercedes
That would have been for the older W123 as well as the W114/115/116 that had twist knob AC. Maybe it was what the ACC I system uses. Looks like the temp control I have in Frosch. clay On Mar 14, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > This supposedly fits my car but where

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ahhh, you didn't make that clear. Does spending an hour a year to clean your finish really put you off? Dan > On Mar 14, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > But I HAVE done it, which is why I am looking for less tedious and > painfully-slow alternatives. > > On Mon,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Automation?

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not exactly, but we do have an 18 pound black Cat who can generate two barely audible purring vibrations simultaneously, when scratched anywhere on his head. The buzzing noise penetrates walls and deters would be burglars. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@o

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But I HAVE done it, which is why I am looking for less tedious and painfully-slow alternatives. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:37 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > There is not much in the way of rubbing. More of a gentle massage and > swipe to gather up the gunk built up. You can do the whole car in

[MBZ] 123 temperature control switch??

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This supposedly fits my car but where does it go? How do I know that I need one? What is its purpose? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-temperature-control-switch-1238200410-123-chassis-/162007020702?hash=item25b85ef49e:g:yVsAAOSwsB9WAskO&vxp=mtr ___ http:

Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It

2016-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Cowl is correct. $17 a side. Bob R On Mar 14, 2016 1:31 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" wrote: > Wiper fairing or wiper area fairing? I don't know; justa wagin.' > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >

Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

2016-03-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
70 Kg, according to the Technical Data Book, 1993 edition I think. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Anybody know the difference in weight between a w124 gas wagon and a w124 > diesel wagon? Need some hi

[MBZ] Secret message for Jim C

2016-03-14 Thread Dave via Mercedes
The '82 300CD hit 220k miles yesterday. Still getting driven every day. Just thought I would rub it in :-). Dave L '82 300CD my daily driver '95 E300d Probably will need to sell... wife HATES it '73 GMC 23' former Painted Desert '94 Ovlov 960 stand-by spare __

[MBZ] OT: Home Automation?

2016-03-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Any of you do home automation or security using Z-wave, 2-gig or Zigbee protocols? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/l

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread clay via Mercedes
There is not much in the way of rubbing. More of a gentle massage and swipe to gather up the gunk built up. You can do the whole car in about 10-15 minutes clay On Mar 14, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > Is there a spray-on clay, or clay in an aerosol can? I don't

Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It

2016-03-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Wiper fairing or wiper area fairing? I don't know; justa wagin.' Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Bob Rentfro" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 3:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] What Do You Call It The big black plastic trim piece

Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

2016-03-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Something worth looking into is that LED bulbs are available is several variations of brightness. I've found the "soft white" versions much more acceptable to the eye and to night vision issues. This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com

Re: [MBZ] What Do You Call It

2016-03-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Cowl. Not sure of the actual nomenclature used by Mercedes. Dan > On Mar 14, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > The big black plastic trim pieces that are at the base of the windshield > on either side of the wiper on the w210? One side is broken in half and I > can see th

[MBZ] What Do You Call It

2016-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
The big black plastic trim pieces that are at the base of the windshield on either side of the wiper on the w210? One side is broken in half and I can see the base of the windshield. I reckon I will remove the remaining pieces and look for a part number but I thought I'd ask whilst I sit here waiti

Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

2016-03-14 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Anybody know the difference in weight between a w124 gas wagon and a w124 diesel wagon? Need some higher springs. On Mar 14, 2016 8:38 AM, "Karl Wittnebel" wrote: > Makes a great car with 6mm elements and a 603 pump and the stock > turbo/intercooler. Super around town. > On Mar 13, 2016 8:59 PM,

Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

2016-03-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sorry for the slow reply but I had to do some research. Back in 2010 I bought these:  https://www.ledlight.com/t10-wedge-5-ultra-bright-smt-led-light.aspxThe price is now 1/2 paid back then. The challenge with them was getting the polarity correct but once I established that it was no problem. -C

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I haven't done it in a long time and I've done three cars in two days. I forgot how easy it is and how awesome it makes your car feel. The black Jetta looks like a new car right now. Bob R On Mar 14, 2016 9:49 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Uh, no. The whole process is a function of the

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Uh, no. The whole process is a function of the clay itself. It’s not something you could “fake” with another product. If you’ve never done it, you wouldn’t understand that it’s not a timely process, nor is it something you need to do more than maybe once/twice a year at most. If doing a clay tr

Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

2016-03-14 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Makes a great car with 6mm elements and a 603 pump and the stock turbo/intercooler. Super around town. On Mar 13, 2016 8:59 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > That's like rejecting Cindy Crawford because of her mole. > > Someday I will transplant a turbo OM606 with intercooler to a 124 wagon.

Re: [MBZ] Happy Pi day

2016-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Actually, it's Rounded Pi Day. Woo to the hoo! Bob R On Mar 14, 2016 8:05 AM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > Happy Pi day to all! > > Here's to pi in your face! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archiv

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is there a spray-on clay, or clay in an aerosol can? I don't have the patience to do all that rubbing. On Mar 14, 2016 10:10 AM, "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes" wrote: > Perfect. > > Bob R > On Mar 14, 2016 2:15 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Nope. Clay is colorblind. > > > > Martha >

[MBZ] Happy Pi day

2016-03-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Happy Pi day to all! Here's to pi in your face! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Perfect. Bob R On Mar 14, 2016 2:15 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Nope. Clay is colorblind. > > Martha > > > > On Mar 13, 2016, at 11:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Saturday was spent Martha-izing the new old diesel. Today, I did the CLK. > >

Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

2016-03-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Jim, Yes, carbon is part of the issue. Toward the end of the glow plug body there is a shoulder. This shoulder is supposed to form a seal against the head to prevent carbon build-up between body and head. I've now filled all that space up with anti-seize. The other part is simple galvanic corr

Re: [MBZ] Clay bar black car

2016-03-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nope. Clay is colorblind. Martha > On Mar 13, 2016, at 11:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Saturday was spent Martha-izing the new old diesel. Today, I did the CLK. > They both look great. > Tomorrow I think I'll do the Jetta. The black Jetta. Do I need to do > anything different