Actually, a lot of plumbers no longer sweat solder copper. They use the crimp
system that Milwaukee and others promote. It’s pretty slick stuff.
-D
> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>
> Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with soldered
> coppe
To clarify, they’re referred to as “copper press” fittings, I’m told. Not
cheap, nor are the crimping tools (+$2k) but they work well, are quick and easy
to use, and avoid having to use a torch in places with flammable materials as
well as are great in tight spaces.
https://blog.supplyhouse.com
Blowtorches like that Turner are what plumbers used to solder fittings, before
bottled propane was widely available. My dad always called them a plumbers
blowtorch; his father was a plumber (among other crafts) and had several.
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 23:26, Curt Raymond wrote:
> I've got a va
I can see the advantages of those, but seems somewhat like a "sharkbite" in
that it relies on an O-ring to make the seal, which will eventually start to
leak years later. But I've had sweated copper joints eventually leak also, so I
don't think anything is really permanent when it comes to house
Now THAT's a hood stack (and turbo!)
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According to oldest son, while some old school plumbers still like sweating
copper, these are very popular in the trade. He says they're quite substantial
and he's never seen one leak unless it was improperly installed.
-D
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That looks really nice. Take 32 Bens and pull that wad out and flash it. Guy
probably just doesn’t want to deal with it.
—FT
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> On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:33 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> "Runs good but CEL is on (camshaft intake solenoid, have part on hand)"
>
>
Tinkered with this a bit this morning. Pulled the starter relay and checked it.
Seems OK, put 12V across the terminals and it clicks. Of course that doesn't
mean it works reliably every time or under load
Put it back in and tried to start, started right up.
For an intermittent no-crank issu
> For an intermittent no-crank issue, no-load battery voltage 12.6V, where
> sometimes you get totally normal starting, sometimes you get a momentary
> starter action then nothing, would you suspect the starter or the relay?
I would rig a test light to the starter, and then PROVE which it
is bef
Was it hot or warm when the no-start occurred?
I ask, because the crankshaft position sensor can cause this when it's failing
and often when hot. Let it cool off, works without an issue.
I keep a CPS for all of my cars on the shelf, as it's a common failure item and
pretty inexpensive (Bosch un
Bad CPS results in no-start, not no-crank.
(Which was the original complaint, no?)
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"Camshaft intake solenoid", not something I've heard of on this engine.
Camshaft sensor or camshaft magnet solenoid? If it's the sensor it's a pig to
get to, I believe.
-D
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Yes, sometimes it starts normally, sometimes the starter turns maybe one
cylinder stroke then stops, sometimes starter acts totally dead.
Any harm in turning the ignition “on” then using a jumper on the relay socket,
just to rule out the relay?
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, at 11:20, Jim Cathey via Mer
Yeah I thought that sounded strange and guessed that the reason he hasn’t
installed the part is that he doesn’t know how or it’s PITA to do.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, at 11:45, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> "Camshaft intake solenoid", not something I've heard of on this engine.
> Camshaft sens
A friend sent me a short IG video of a lady showing her 1988 560SL. She claims
the color is “Pueblo”. She claims it is a legit Mercedes color but Mercedes
will not release the numbers of how many were painted this color.
Is this accurate? She’s very adamant.
AZBob
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On 01/08/2023 8:05 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Now THAT's a hood stack (and turbo!)
-D
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One of the drawbacks of owning older cars... but normally I have enough
redundancy in the fleet to tolerate downtime on one or even two cars.
Today I'm dealing with the intermittent start on the E500, a non-charging
(probably bad alternator) on the Frontier, and the normally always-reliable
W11
Just get the paint code off the radiator support or the VIN.
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> On Aug 1, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> A friend sent me a short IG video of a lady showing her 1988 560SL. She
> claims the color is “Pueblo”. She claims it is a legit Mercedes co
There are old paint sample pamphlets online you could find for that year and
see if it was listed. Or maybe it was a special order or something?
--FT
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> On Aug 1, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Just get the paint code off the radiator support or the
How does the VIN provide the paint code?
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:57 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Just get the paint code off the radiator support or the VIN.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 1, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okie
https://www.paintscratch.com/touch_up_paint/Mercedes-Benz/1988-Mercedes-Benz-All-Models.html
DB 651 Pueblo beige
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 1:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> There are old paint sample pamphlets online you could find for that year
> and see if it
Or search the googs
https://www.theslshop.com/journal/2020/05/13/the-complete-mercedes-benz-r107-sl-paint-colour-photo-guide/
Pueblo Beige DB-651
https://scratchwizard.net/1992-mercedes-benz-all-models-automotive-paint-pueblo-beige-db-651.html
No idea of how many but it appears to be a legit
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, at 13:01, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> How does the VIN provide the paint code?
Look up the VIN on lastvin.com and it will tell you all the factory options and
codes including paint.
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Supposedly "dark red" but it looks more like maroon.
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Ask Floyd about camshaft sensors.
-D
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Yeah I thought that sounded strange and guessed that the rea
I don't know what's involved on a M273. I was thinking this might be a
variable valve timing solenoid? I don't know if that engine has it or
not. I should study up on that as this is the engine in the S550
Well that was quick
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class-w209/623231-camshaft-solenoi
I would’ve done it myself but it’s too hot to mess with it rn
Ac Needs Be Charged Heat Don’t Work . Fixed freeze plugs new radiator
new resavoir
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Crazy deal for staggared 20". Wheels.
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That’s gorgeous
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> On Aug 1, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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> Supposedly "dark red" but it looks more like maroon.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercedes-benz-280sel-4-5-41/
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Folks
Since the transmission is pretty screwed on my rollback I bought another isuzu
1999 (Chevrolet branded) box truck with 2500# lift gate … 280k miles … I have
to fix ac brakes and tires not cheap at $6500 but prob ok deal in the current
market … and it was in Savannah and bought from a Guat
I'd love to see a real Guatemalan preacher.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:23 PM RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes <
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> Folks
>
> Since the transmission is pretty screwed on my rollback I bought another
> isuzu 1999 (Chevrolet branded) box truck with 2500# lift gate … 280k miles
>
Sold for $37.5k. Shows what a nice color does for a car, overriding the
probably cracked steering wheel and no sunroof. Go figure.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> That’s gorgeous
>
> --FT
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>
> > On Aug 1, 2023, at 1:
No sunroof is a bonus in my book. One less place for water to leak in.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, at 17:05, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Sold for $37.5k. Shows what a nice color does for a car, overriding the
> probably cracked steering wheel and no sunroof. Go figure.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2
I was wondering what he was hauling in that box truck
--FT
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> On Aug 1, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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> I'd love to see a real Guatemalan preacher.
>
>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:23 PM RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
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Or dual clutch?
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I know. Part of the issue is that the art of plumbing is dying. No skill
involved in pulling a trigger on a crimping machine. Now they need that
expensive Milwaukee tool when they could just use a cheap propane torch and
some solder. Everything has to be over complicated now, including cars. On
yes including mechanics
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 9:39 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I know. Part of the issue is that the art of plumbing is dying. No skill
> involved in pulling a trigger on a crimping machine. Now they need that
> expensive Milwaukee tool when
Definitely the “mechanics” at the Mercedes dealerships. I mentioned a while
back that the dealership claimed that my mother’s G500 needed a new ecu which
was NLA and they suggested that it get written off as a total loss. Well, I
took it to an independent shop which spent 5 hours on it and got i
yup. it is replace mentality vs repair. I am so fortunate to have a great
indy MB mechanic who also is a sponsor for our annual ChowdahQ
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 10:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis
wrote:
> Definitely the “mechanics” at the Mercedes dealerships. I mentioned a
> while back that the dealership
The local dealership did a 150K service on my E250 Bluetec sedan, and noted
that the radiator was leaking and needed replacing. When I picked up the
car there was a low coolant message so I drove to my trusty indy tech (ex
dealer). The coolant was a quart down but he saw no leak. The car sat on
If you're not losing coolant, there's no problem?
Allan
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, at 22:33, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> The local dealership did a 150K service on my E250 Bluetec sedan, and noted
> that the radiator was leaking and needed replacing. When I picked up the
> car there was a
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