Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep, thats what I have going on. Marshall Booth wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Cant really tell. Feels like the front, but it could be the back making it feel like the front though. My 190D squirrels felt front-loaded, and they were. I did have one bad back link, but didn't notice much

[MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, so drove my new 91 2.5 turbo today and its squirly on the highway. I do remember when I used to own this car it was that way but not as bad. What all should I be replacing? Seems marshall has said this is caused by the rear links? True? Do the links themselves need to be replaced,

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Jeff Zedic
Bushings only come in the linksnot big dollars but a pain to replace. Do the subframe stuff while you're there. BTDT Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
pain to replace? What all is involved? Jeff Zedic wrote: Bushings only come in the linksnot big dollars but a pain to replace. Do the subframe stuff while you're there. BTDT Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Jeff Zedic
You're best off doing all the links whilst there but I just feel that doing the subframe bushings with the threaded rod Rube Goldberg thing is tough..actually, seating them back in is tough. I passed it off to a pro. Got a good deal to let them do it all. Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Rear links, bushing on the spring links, and subframe mounts in the back -- any or all will cause wheel deflections that cause rear steer, decidedly unpleasant. Bushings are intergral to the links (vulcanized in place) and provide part of the spring for the rear suspension. I've seen some

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Jim Cathey
OK, so drove my new 91 2.5 turbo today and its squirly on the highway. Can you tell if the squirrels live in the front or the rear? I've been told that you can kind of tell, especially with experience. Also could have loose front pieces, like tie rods, steering idler, steering shock. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Jack and support, with suspension hanging free. Unbolt links (three are easy, the tie rods are a big PITA), install new bolts from the 210 chassis with fitting sleeves (new bolts are thinner), jack suspension level, tighten bolts -- the links must be free when you jack the suspension up, the

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread OK Don
I think Hans or someone else wrote up the process for the rear subframe mount replacement a while back. I seem to remember wood blocks and the weight of the car to push the new ones in. Subframe bushings require dropping the subframe one side at a time and making a tool to pull the old mounts

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Cant really tell. Feels like the front, but it could be the back making it feel like the front though. Jim Cathey wrote: OK, so drove my new 91 2.5 turbo today and its squirly on the highway. Can you tell if the squirrels live in the front or the rear? I've been told that you can kind of

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
ok OK Don wrote: It's obviously worn out, so it's only worth $500. I'll be there Sunday, and will bring fresh squirrels. On 12/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so drove my new 91 2.5 turbo today and its squirly on the highway. I do remember when I used to own this car it

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Jim Cathey
Cant really tell. Feels like the front, but it could be the back making it feel like the front though. My 190D squirrels felt front-loaded, and they were. I did have one bad back link, but didn't notice much difference after I replaced it. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Jeff Zedic
I knew which it was when cornering and then hitting an expansion joint in the road. The back end would wiggle but it felt like the tires were preventing more than a wiggle from happening. Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Marshall Booth
Jim Cathey wrote: Cant really tell. Feels like the front, but it could be the back making it feel like the front though. My 190D squirrels felt front-loaded, and they were. I did have one bad back link, but didn't notice much difference after I replaced it. When rear links are bad,

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 12/6/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When rear links are bad, driving slowly over an irregular or wavy surface will cause the care to move first one way then the other. At higher speed the effects make the car feel nervous and can be very disconcerting. On both 124's I've

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread Hans Neureiter
I did it on the 126. Not much to it using the floorjack. The big PITA are the two long bolts. I used a thriftpin to feel the alignment and a crowbar to get there. On 12/5/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Hans or someone else wrote up the process for the rear subframe mount

Re: [MBZ] 124 suspension, something marshall would know

2006-12-06 Thread John M McIntosh
Yes and for sure I can report that take really bad links, then do the stomp on accelerator to pass, and the rear will *dance* sideways. Very disconcerting, leads directly to fixing that issue ( 89 300TE) On 6-Dec-06, at 11:47 AM, Marshall Booth wrote: When rear links are bad, driving slowly