Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-07 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
The glow light is not coming on so it’s almost certainly a glow issue. Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2023, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >  > I assume you ruled out a fuel delivery problem. > >> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 7:54 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> With how m

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I assume you ruled out a fuel delivery problem. On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 7:54 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > With how much cranking? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 6, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Dwight Giles > wrote: > > > >  > > that car (300D 2.5T) will start w

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-07 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
With how much cranking? Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > >  > that car (300D 2.5T) will start without glow. > >> On Sat, May 6, 2023, 10:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm.

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
that car (300D 2.5T) will start without glow. On Sat, May 6, 2023, 10:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did > you let it crank for a couple seconds? > That '78 240D that had been Dwight's absolutel

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse temporarily? Worst case it > will just fail prematurely? If you define prematurely as immediately. 30A will barely run _one_ glow plug, if cold. In a pinch, I've used wire from CAT5 cable. As many strands in parallel as it takes to survive a co

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wager it is the GP relay. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 10:29 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Oh right. I’m not thinking! Thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 6, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > T

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Oh right. I’m not thinking! Thank you. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Turn on the ignition switch and look/listen for the relay to close. Put a > volt meter on a GP and see if it gets electrons. > > —FT > > Sent from my iPad >

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I tried for a few seconds but no luck. I didn’t try super hard. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did you > let it crank for a couple seconds? > > That '78 240D that had been Dwight's

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did you let it crank for a couple seconds? That '78 240D that had been Dwight's absolutely would not start without glow but all my 190Ds would... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:59 PM, Dimitr

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Turn on the ignition switch and look/listen for the relay to close. Put a volt meter on a GP and see if it gets electrons. —FT Sent from my iPad > On May 6, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > OK looking at more photos, the OE part does not have the fuse trip but

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
OK looking at more photos, the OE part does not have the fuse trip but the OEM part made by Hella does. So how do I check if the relay is bad? Or can I just assume that it is for lack of another possible explanation? Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 7:22 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Merce

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I just pulled the cover off the gp relay and I don’t see a strip fuse. The pictures on line of the correct part all show a fuse strip. What’s going on here? Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Right. Makes sense. > > Sent from my iP

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Right. Makes sense. Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2023, at 11:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. > > -D > >> On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So after some more research, I think I may

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-05 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. -D > On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip fuse- > one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut tower and > I think it

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
GP relay was the culprit on my W123 wagon. On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:55 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > yes makes sense > > On Fri, May 5, 2023, 10:37 PM Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: > > > So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip > > fus

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-05 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
yes makes sense On Fri, May 5, 2023, 10:37 PM Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip > fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut > tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The 2.5 relay does not have a strip fuse like the older ones. You either had some dead plugs, or the relay is read. Simple test to test the plugs to see if they are bad Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2023, at 9:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > So after some more research

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30 amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow plug

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-05 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember changing the relay at least once On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it > wouldn’t as the glow plug light

[MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start

2023-05-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or perhap