Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread Marshall Booth
Jim Cathey wrote: These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ Yes indeedy. Wonder which item is there to provide the front/rear slip? It wasn't completely obvious to me, but no doubt it has to be there. The page implied that there were 300D/300TD cars available with 4-m

Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Does anybody know of another resource the accurately explains the operation of the older 4Matic? I've found this one, but it's only a short writeup preceding a detailed explanation of the newer 4Matic system. http://www.whnet.com/4x4/ets.html Tim 1982 300TD Moby (for sale) 1991 300TE 4Matic Beul

Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread TimothyPilgrim
I knew there was a reason I kept subscribing to the digest. Nice find! Tim 1982 300TD Moby (for sale) 1991 300TE 4Matic Beulah - Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:56:45 -0800 From: Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> These are pretty cool, eh? htt

Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread Zeitgeist
If I understand it correctly, the transfer of power to the front wheels is operated through the ASR system, which may be the same as found on 2wd vehicles. I suspect that if the rear wheels begin to slip, the computer sends hydraulic pressure to bear on the semi-locking rear diff and the transfer

Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Computer-controlled clutches of some kind inside the center differential, making the front/rear torque allotment variable. I didn't see anything like a third spider gear set. Maybe just a slip clutch, but it wasn't screamingly obvious to me, who can't read German except "Was ist los, Aki?" and

Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread Hendrik Riessen
e the same principles - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato Computer-controlled clutches of some kind inside the

Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 11/15/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are pretty cool, eh? > > http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ Yes indeedy. Wonder which item is there to provide the front/rear slip? It wasn't completely obvious to me, but no doubt it has to be there. Computer-controlled clutches

Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:56:45 -0800 Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are pretty cool, eh? > > http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ Yes, indeed. They are also pretty complicated -- lots of things to break. Craig

Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread Jim Cathey
These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ Yes indeedy. Wonder which item is there to provide the front/rear slip? It wasn't completely obvious to me, but no doubt it has to be there. The page implied that there were 300D/300TD cars available with 4-matic. If there wer

[MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato

2006-11-16 Thread Zeitgeist
These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler/propane injection #22 (219k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IM