Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Zeitgeist
I gather the reed valves are internal and non-DIY accessible--correct? Damn, I just bought that compressor a year or two ago. Anyone know if other model Benzes used the same Nippondenso compressor in '87. As Zach alluded, there's an '87 260E in the local Pick-a-Part, and it'd be great if that

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
Oh, and another possibility is that your gauges are not making good connection to the system and are lying. I've had this happen, it caused me to replace (unnecessarily) the compressor in the Chicken Wagon. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwair.html -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
I gather the reed valves are internal and non-DIY accessible--correct? Yes. Reed valves can be broken if the compressor sucks liquid refrigerant. Anyone know if other model Benzes used the same Nippondenso compressor in '87. As Zach alluded, there's an '87 260E in the local Pick-a-Part,

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Toyota, Benz, and Nissan, along with occasional US makers, used that compressor. Nippondenso, don't have the model number handy. Used in the W126, W124 chassis, Camry, Accord, and other. Take a look. Check the low pressure switch for a short first, and check to make sure the clutch is good

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Tearing into compressors generally requires more dollars in special tools than the price of a new compressor. Speaking of which, that compressor that you bought a year or two ago, was it new or rebuilt. If it was rebuilt, chances are , it's a bum compressor. I quit wasting my time and

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread tom savage
Zeitgeist wrote: Anyone know if other model Benzes used the same Nippondenso compressor in '87. As Zach alluded, there's an '87 260E in the local Pick-a-Part, and it'd be great if that compressor were the same. Mercedes inconveniently lists the AC compressor as an engine part and not a

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Zeitgeist
An Ebay seller claims the following model/years use the Nippondenso 10P15C compressor: 1985-1993 190E 1987-1989 260E 1986-1993 300E 1988-1993 300SE, 300SEL 1988-1993 300CE ,300TE 1990-1993 300D 2.5L 1986-1987 300 TD, 300SDL Unfortunately, other sites claim that some of those models use the

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
Also, the compressor is now cycling off if I raise the rpms much above idle. I strongly suspect that my compressor is shot---gr. Why would it? Some sensor has to command this, so find out which it is and that'll tell you more about the problem. Jim, how have you previously discharged

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Zeitgeist
The compressor is starting to get noisy too. I can really feel the engine bogging down when the clutch engages, so I suspect the speed sensor is detecting a rpm differential--seizure is imminent. On 8/5/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, the compressor is now cycling off if I raise

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
The compressor is starting to get noisy too. I can really feel the engine bogging down when the clutch engages, so I suspect the speed sensor is detecting a rpm differential--seizure is imminent. If that's it it will cycle off and not come back on until the Klima is power-cycled. If it

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey
detecting a rpm differential--seizure is imminent. If it's seizing up the debris could foul the reed valves, causing your pressure symptoms. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

[MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Zeitgeist
So, my AC ('87 300TD) seems to be experiencing multiple failure modes. One is the weak output of the fan. The other is the weak output of cooling. I suspect the former is due to clogged evaporator coils, which apparently can't be rectified short of a complete dash removal. The fan appears (by

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Way low on freon -- high side at 70F and 1500 rpm with compressor engaged should be about 250 psi. The other choice is a bad compressor, but you should have more pressure than that in the low side if the compressor is bad. May have a bad low pressure cutout switch (or it's wired around) too.

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Zach
Go buy the 300E at pickapart (probably $300-400 if the engine is still there) and do some dissection of the dash and AC on that before you fuck with the nice car... That is my advice.. -Zach --- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my AC ('87 300TD) seems to be experiencing multiple

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
- Low side readings = 50 psi - High side readings = 65 psi - Vent temps = 50 degrees @ ~70 degrees ambient - Compressor engages, yet doesn't cycle off and on as I'd suspect if there were a low charge level. - sight glass is cloudy 1) Low charge 2) leaking reed valves in

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well the evaporator is easy to clean. Just pull the fan and its right there. Takes all of 10 minutes at most to get it removed. On the pressures, sounds like your compressor is not compressing to me. Zeitgeist wrote: So, my AC ('87 300TD) seems to be experiencing multiple failure modes. One

Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, that too, could be low. Peter Frederick wrote: Way low on freon -- high side at 70F and 1500 rpm with compressor engaged should be about 250 psi. The other choice is a bad compressor, but you should have more pressure than that in the low side if the compressor is bad. May have a