Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Marvin. My sophomore year of highschool I wrote a termpaper Douglas Adams' use of humor as a social commentary. -Curt Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:56:50 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID:     [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread TE
Just because you copy the same link 6 times and add your little interpretation does not mean he will raise taxes. Have you actually read the links you cited? Nowhere does it say he will raise taxes. He never said it along the campaign trail. What he said is that the bush tax cuts favor the

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread Donald Snook
TE wrote: Just because you copy the same link 6 times and add your little interpretation does not mean he will raise taxes. Have you actually read the links you cited? Nowhere does it say he will raise taxes. He never said it along the campaign trail. What he said is that the bush tax cuts

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread Rick Knoble
What he said is that the bush tax cuts favor the wealthy top 1% of the country (e.g. those making over 250k). In letting them expire or whatever, he will propose his own tax cut plan that favors people like me and you (well maybe not you if you are voting for mclame). Part of the Bush tax

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread Rolf
I think we call that pacification or appeasement. Gotta do something to keep the masses from revolting when every other policy has failed so miserably. -Rolf Rick Knoble wrote: What he said is that the bush tax cuts favor the wealthy top 1% of the country (e.g. those making over 250k). In

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
that aren't taking up space in public schools or afterschool programs. These kids I don't have won't turn into delinquents and tie up our judicial system either... -Curt Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:02:22 -0500 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread Wilton Strickland
And whatever children you may have at sometime should not be delinquent and tie up the judicial system, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
I'd vote for that -- then declare any sort of contraceptive a sin, if not abortion. (Pope) If you need me, I shall be in my 50s-era fallout shelter. Don On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Bush tax credit is subsidizing children and an underhanded tax

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
to spend lots of time watching tv. Of course that may have something to do with why I never got cable tv... -Curt --- On Fri, 8/15/08, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
Really? I have a Slartibartfast quote framed on my office file cabinet. Folks read it and think he was a philosopher. In many ways, he was, via Adams. I even have a Complete Works on my bookshelf that was bound to make it look like a Bible. Don't Panic! D. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 7:49 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-14 Thread Donald Snook
TE wrote: The Republican fed notion that any Democratic candidate will raise your taxes is absolute crap. Did you actually read my response? I cited to Obama's website. He WILL raise taxes. This is not speculation. He has said he will raise taxes on those earning over $250,000. It is PART

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
Actually, your state and local tax burden will go up if the Fed. tax burden goes down. Governing ain't cheap. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TE wrote: The Republican fed notion that any Democratic candidate will raise your taxes is absolute crap. Did

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-14 Thread LarryT
! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama How does the biggest Socialist

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-14 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, your state and local tax burden will go up if the Fed. tax burden goes down. Governing ain't cheap. Typically when the federal rate goes down, revenues to the treasury increase. Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-13 Thread Donald Snook
TE wrote: And what are those specific positions exactly? I'm curious to hear them, as I am fully prepared to blast the right wing garbage that I'm sure you are ready to spew out. WOW! That's a pretty nasty response. But, I'll play. Here are SOME of the positions that I disagree with: 1.

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-13 Thread Redghost
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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-13 Thread OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-13 Thread TE
: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:17 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama TE wrote: And what are those specific positions exactly? I'm curious to hear them, as I am fully prepared to blast the right wing garbage that I'm sure you are ready to spew out. WOW! That's a pretty

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley
TE wrote: Give me a break... like the Bush administration has been demonstrating fiscal conservatism. The Republican fed notion that any Democratic candidate will raise your taxes is absolute crap. I think a lot of things the Democrats say is absolute crap, but when they say the Bush tax

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
I never claimed any news source was objective, but to cite that IBD article as anything other than right wing opinion is ludicrous. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i read pravda mostly On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread Rich Thomas
IBD -- a bright shining star of hope (oops, shouldn't use THAT word, I should change it, ps again...) in the murky sky of the mainstream media! Hey, about that Johnny Edwards? Hoodababydaddy? Which America is that again? --R andrew strasfogel wrote: I never claimed any news source

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: I never claimed any news source was objective, but to cite that IBD article as anything other than right wing opinion is ludicrous. It was run as a political opinion column, so no argument there. OTOH, if he was not really one of the leading Socialists in the Senate,

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
That's a real softball: in order to scare people into voting for McCain. Duh. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I never claimed any news source was objective, but to cite that IBD article as anything other than right wing

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley
I still don't follow your reasoning. Why would IBD want to scare conservatives into voting for a Socialist like McLamester unless they really believed that Osama Bin Hussein was a much greater Socialist?? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread harry watkins
affairs. Is that true? Harry - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama I still don't follow your reasoning. Why would IBD want to scare

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread Donald Snook
Harry wrote: I don't think you can SCARE the American people into voting one way or the other. You don't? Both parties have been doing it for years. Some of the most egregious examples I can think of off the top of my head are: Willy Horton in 1988 (done by my party unfortunately) The Daisy

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread TE
, 2008 4:08 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama Harry wrote: I don't think you can SCARE the American people into voting one way or the other. You don't? Both parties have been doing it for years. Some of the most egregious examples I can think of off the top of my head

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley
harry watkins wrote: I don't think you can SCARE the American people into voting one way or the other. If you can convince the voters that they must vote for one of two choices, and there's no good reason to vote for either of them, then the only way to get votes is to scare the voters

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley
TE wrote: And what are those specific positions exactly? I'm curious to hear them, as I am fully prepared to blast the right wing garbage that I'm sure you are ready to spew out. Tarry, that was an entirely uncalled for attack IMO. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Mitch, Andrew, TE, Harry, et al I'm not sure what we hope to accomplish with any of this rhetoric. Maybe it's just a vent, since we can't speak one on one to discuss the real issues. And nobody is going to change anybody else's opinions!!! That's MHO!!! Your contribution of

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread Wonko the Sane
You have educated yourself into the bourgeoisie. Congratulations. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't need anyone to scare me into not voting for Obama. His own positions (specifically what HE said in the debates) on taxes is what scares me. --

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
Chuck, you forgot to include yourself in that list of offenders. Your Republican views are obvious and unabashed, so please don't lecture me about OT political comments. I DO agree that more diesel talk would be an improvement over the current mix of topics... On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:30 PM,

[MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley
How does the biggest Socialist in the Senate get so much mainstream support? http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302137342405551 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas
He is a Leader, he has Good Ideas, and is for Hope and Change. That is enough to qualify him to run the country. You should know that by now. --R Mitch Haley wrote: How does the biggest Socialist in the Senate get so much mainstream support?

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Gary Hurst
mr we could use a man like herbert hoover again! On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does the biggest Socialist in the Senate get so much mainstream support? http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302137342405551

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Hey what about Bernie Sanders from Vermont? He is the real McCoy - a card carrying socialist! On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mr we could use a man like herbert hoover again! On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Knoble
mr we could use a man like herbert hoover again! Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight. Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: Hey what about Bernie Sanders from Vermont? He is the real McCoy - a card carrying socialist! And Investor's Business Daily claims that Barry is more socialist than Bernie. Amazing, isn't it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Gary Hurst
there were some very nice looking lasalles. even back when old cars were cheap, those were out of my price range. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: mr we could use a man like herbert hoover again! Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Loren Faeth
oh, and you forgot, he is the messiah. NO_ONE can question him! At 08:36 AM 8/11/2008, you wrote: He is a Leader, he has Good Ideas, and is for Hope and Change. That is enough to qualify him to run the country. You should know that by now. --R Mitch Haley wrote: How does the biggest

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Investors Business Daily is not what i would call an objective source of news... On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: oh, and you forgot, he is the messiah. NO_ONE can question him! At 08:36 AM 8/11/2008, you wrote: He is a Leader, he has Good Ideas, and is

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Loren Faeth
Of course, the NYTimes is! Right! At 05:40 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote: Investors Business Daily is not what i would call an objective source of news... On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: oh, and you forgot, he is the messiah. NO_ONE can question him!

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew, What would you call an objective source of news? Chuck On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:40 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Investors Business Daily is not what i would call an objective source of news... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Loren Faeth
NY times, Washington post, CNN, CBS, ABS, NBS etc, and not to forget the unbiased NPR At 06:12 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote: Andrew, What would you call an objective source of news? Chuck On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:40 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Investors Business Daily is not what i would call an

Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

2008-08-11 Thread Gary Hurst
i read pravda mostly On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, What would you call an objective source of news? Chuck On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:40 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Investors Business Daily is not what i would call an objective source