Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

I have the April 1985 edition (for 123 cars), and the '87 and '93(?) editions for 124 cars. Definitely a piece of the puzzle! - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Actually, they’re called a “TDM”, or

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Actually, they’re called a “TDM”, or Technical Data manual, and they have details on specifications for a range of models and years. The depth of the information in the TDMs is almost frightening. They were published every few years and would cover a range of chassis and years, typically

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

how far back does the book go? Larry Turner via Mercedes May 10, 2017 at 11:01 PM There's a small, fat book (maybe 5x8x1) available from MBZ called "Technical Specs" I think -- will confirm it tomorrow. Anywho, it is filled with all kinds of great info - torque

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

There's a small, fat book (maybe 5x8x1) available from MBZ called "Technical Specs" I think -- will confirm it tomorrow. Anywho, it is filled with all kinds of great info - torque values for almost everything, filling capacities, etc for all kinds of MBs and variants. Bought one for my W124

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Indeed, or the model index at: http://manual.startekinfo.com/ which claims to cover 11 models, starting with the W201. > On Apr 30, 2017, at 08:41, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Dan Penoff wrote: > > Why are you messing with Steve?s index when you can get your

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

That's good to know. I have not heard anything of him for the past ~20 years. I probably saw him for the brief time I was on the RE list. that was probably 1996. Back then the 123 was still new to me. I had no 124 or 126, so no use for his index. Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Steve put a tremendous amount of work into that, and he'll still make improvements if you send him stuff. I may send him some of this, unless it is buried somewhere on the FSM CD and I just couldn't find it on his index. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Curley

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Finished download a treasure trove of diagnostics: Engine (ignition and fuel), Soft Top, and Roll Bar. Thanks again Dan! - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why are you messing with Steve’s index when you

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

I think Steve did that work originally before the M104s. Meade Dillon via Mercedes April 30, 2017 at 8:03 AM I do have to say that the FSM on CD for the M104 is very lacking compared to the OM60x. I should probably try to find a paper copy? I'm using Steve

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Bingo! Thanks Dan! I kept reading in the FSM references to the "Diagnostic Manual Engine Vol 1/2", but just couldn't seem to find it... - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why are you messing with Steve’s

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Yes. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I thought we were talking about a 94/95 e320? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 30, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > >

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Why are you messing with Steve’s index when you can get your info right from the source? http://manual.startekinfo.com/manual/JSP/e1/content.jsp -D > On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

I thought we were talking about a 94/95 e320? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > No distributor, it's got COPs (coil on plugs). > > -D > >> On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:47 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes >>

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

I do have to say that the FSM on CD for the M104 is very lacking compared to the OM60x. I should probably try to find a paper copy? I'm using Steve Nervig's index, I've found a couple mislabeled links, it could be that his index is not so good for the M104. I had to pull those COPs to get the

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

No distributor, it's got COPs (coil on plugs). -D > On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:47 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Double check the distributor rotor as well; that's why my 300E wasn't > running when I got it. > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

If it's got COPs, you're probably OK. They're pretty bulletproof and easy to troubleshoot if one's not working. I'm betting on a fuel problem. -D > On Apr 29, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks all. I'll dig into the fuel pump relay wiring

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Double check the distributor rotor as well; that's why my 300E wasn't running when I got it. On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks all. I'll dig into the fuel pump relay wiring to see how to power > the fuel pumps. > > Testing spark

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Thanks all. I'll dig into the fuel pump relay wiring to see how to power the fuel pumps. Testing spark will also require some research, it seems. I think it would be wise to drain the fuel tank and lines of the stale gas and any accumulated water, no? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:22:49 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > M104 has COP, so no external coil. Look for a computer. It has one "driver" assembly on the left fenderwell; the M119 has two. There is wording in the driver assemblies that they are high energy and

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

It requires fuel, spark, and air to run - check for the presence of each one - - On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not running. Story is it was at a garage for repair, which they diagnosed > to bad fuel pumps, but owner never authorized

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

There ‘ya go. I was combining my W126 and W124 troubleshooting… -D > On Apr 29, 2017, at 8:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Or just do it the easy way and jumper a couple of pins on the fuel pump relay > > Sent from my iPhone >

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

M104 has COP, so no external coil. Look for a computer. Max Dillon via Mercedes April 29, 2017 at 6:54 PM Aye aye! Craig via Mercedes April 29, 2017 at 6:47 PM On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:32:04 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes If this is

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Or just do it the easy way and jumper a couple of pins on the fuel pump relay Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would carefully hot wire the fuel pump and see if the pump runs to begin. > The terminals are

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

I would carefully hot wire the fuel pump and see if the pump runs to begin. The terminals are exposed on it, that is, they have a rubber boot over a stud that you can pull back to put +12VDC to it. The pump and filter are sort of in tandem in the back of the car on the right side behind the

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Aye aye! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On April 29, 2017 7:47:52 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > >If this is like a W124 sedan ('95 E420), there is an electric fuel pump >and a fuel filter aft of the stern of the transmission starboard of the

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:32:04 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Not running. Story is it was at a garage for repair, which they > diagnosed to bad fuel pumps, but owner never authorized repair and then > died. Car sat for 2 or 3 years, yada yada yada, I buy it for

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Not running. Story is it was at a garage for repair, which they diagnosed to bad fuel pumps, but owner never authorized repair and then died. Car sat for 2 or 3 years, yada yada yada, I buy it for $500. I'm going to have to research testing both fuel and spark. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

Not to sound daft, but does it not run or was it disassembled? At this point I would be looking for fuel and spark. Your numbers look good for a cold test, and they’re very well grouped. -D > On Apr 29, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Today I

[MBZ] Compression test results

Today I made some time to test the compression on the M104 engine in the 1995 $500 Cabriolet. Here are the results. The service manual says test a hot engine, can't do that, so I put about half an ounce of oil into each hole prior to testing. Acceptable values are from 145 psi to 203, no

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

That is what I am figuring Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > #1 is low, but if there was no heat shield in there, it may come back when > you run it a while with one -- should get the carbon out of the rings. >

Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

#1 is low, but if there was no heat shield in there, it may come back when you run it a while with one -- should get the carbon out of the rings. Can't be any worse than my 300 D -- I'm afraid to check the compression. Peter ___

[MBZ] Compression test results

Here is what I got dry/wet 1 310/330 2 320/360 3 340/400 4 360/430 5 370/410 6 360/430 Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: