Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

2016-02-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
turn it back? It was too tight to begin with. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source He is we

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2016-02-12 Thread clay via Mercedes
cedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:10 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source > > My dealership is owned by a huge conglomerate, Asbury Group, b

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2016-02-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
rcedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> >> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source >> >> My dealership is owned by a huge co

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2016-02-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The Seattle dealer sale ended up gutting the staff and installing his own screw ups. Guy purchased the BMW/Honda/Toyota franchises as well, then plopped them all on the same side of the block. All new buildings for each store, but I suspect he is sharing the tech staff to save money. The

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2016-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Just be careful when cross-recreating. An indy tech once told me he preferred working on Mercedes because, as he put it, "BMWs break". On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It’s really sad, as the local section languishes because it’s a

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2016-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Roger, I’m not passing judgement on anyone who chooses to use George, or why they do or don’t. All I am saying is that I have an ethical dilemma with George using his position to actively promote his business through associations that others would have to pay to do so. There are far more

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2016-02-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I agree with Dan, I (with no prior experience or knowledge) thought that George was taking advantage of his position in the club. I ordered George's used oil lab analysis kits, sent in a sample and got the results back, and there was no soot number! I called the lab tech about it, he said "we

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2016-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s really sad, as the local section languishes because it’s a social club for Sunday brunches of the champagne set rather than a group of enthusiasts. Scott Suits, our former area director, was a good friend and worked hard to try and get the locals to soften up a little bit, but was never

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2016-02-11 Thread clay via Mercedes
Not sure how many of the newer owners actually join the club. MBCA. From the many hours I wasted at the stealership over the past month, the brand has become aspirational. The bulk of the service center users were ethnic. It could be that shop's marketing, but I am thinking it covers the

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2016-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There's a rich irony in people effecting to be snobs whose newest car is 10 years old, if that. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I agree with Dan, I (with no prior experience or knowledge) thought that >> George was taking advantage of

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2016-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m passing all this along. Thanks, everyone. Dan > On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Programa rocks. I purchased 3 123 cruise amps from them over the years. Not > one has ever failed. Cost was $149 plus core. > On Feb 10, 2016

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2016-02-11 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Dan, Sorry, but you're rather harsh on George Murphy. I've personally dealt with George for around 15 years or more getting rebuilt servo units for my 1980 300SD. George has always been helpful, professional, and stood behind his servo products. I've never dealt with the cruise amps as I don't

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2016-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Roger, There’s some really bad blood between George and a number of former MBCA members, myself included, for reasons I won’t go into here. Even people like Stu Ritter took exception to things George told people under the guise of being a “technical advisor” or whatever the title he had with

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2016-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Programa rocks. I purchased 3 123 cruise amps from them over the years. Not one has ever failed. Cost was $149 plus core. On Feb 10, 2016 10:54 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:23:11 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: >

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2016-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wonder - what is the % German content of 2016 Mercedes models? On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:18 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > Not sure how many of the newer owners actually join the club. MBCA. From > the many hours I wasted at the stealership over the past month, the

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2016-02-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Anything George offered there were better alternatives. Those vacuum element diaphragms for example that he says repair acc did not fit for example. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I agree with Dan, I (with no

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2016-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My parts source is Mercedes Benz of Tampa. 20 years of business with them. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > Last year when we were getting mama's ML at the Charlotte Northside stealer > (the parts source Poos

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2016-02-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Just ask Knutsack what a real piece of crap Murphy is. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s really sad, as the local section languishes because it’s a social club > for Sunday brunches of the champagne set rather

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2016-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Interesting that you say that about new owners, as I never thought about it until now, but you’re right - most of the owners I see at my dealer are not WASPs nor Anglos. I hadn’t really thought about that, but now that I do, you’re right. However, in all fairness, with the Cheap Class being

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2016-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Last year when we were getting mama's ML at the Charlotte Northside stealer (the parts source Poos goes on about), we were sitting there waiting for our sales droid to go do something, and in the next cube a coupla redneck goobers were trying to beat down the sales droid about a Cheep Klasse.

Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source now MBCA and new v. old

2016-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I am underwhelmed. Maybe if cost $17,500 On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:48:41 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > > new cheap class review > > >

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2016-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
new cheap class review http://buyersguide.jalopnik.com/mercedes-cla-the-ultimate-buyers-guide-1756721543 --R On 2/11/16 3:18 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Not sure how many of the newer owners actually join the club. MBCA. From the many hours I wasted at the stealership over the past month,

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2016-02-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:48:41 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > new cheap class review > http://buyersguide.jalopnik.com/mercedes-cla-the-ultimate-buyers-guide-1756721543 "The CLA is an economy car dressed in a fancy suit. But underneath the dapper

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2016-02-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:48:41 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: new cheap class review http://buyersguide.jalopnik.com/mercedes-cla-the-ultimate-buyers-guide-1756721543 "The CLA is an economy car dressed in a fancy suit. But underneath the dapper

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2016-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My dealership is owned by a huge conglomerate, Asbury Group, based in Atlanta. There is no local ownership any more around here. Fortunately, they appear to have left the worker bees in place for the most part, so it has no effect on my business with the place. I will say that people keep

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2016-02-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I am very familiar with the Asbury group. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > My dealership is owned by a huge conglomerate, Asbury Group, based in > Atlanta. There is no local ownership any more around here. > >

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2016-02-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
gt; Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source My dealership is owned by a huge conglomerate, Asbury Group, based in Atlanta.  There is no local ownership any more around here. Fortunately, they appear to have l

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2016-02-11 Thread clay via Mercedes
The owners are not only the low end folks. Lots of SUV or at least E class people. Very popular with the Asian and African population. Not many Latino in a Benz. We do not have many rich latins, so it is economic discrimination. The Owner of the Stealership downtown and to the north is

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2016-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:10 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source > > My dealership is owned by a huge conglomerate, Asbury Group, based in > Atlanta. There is no local ownership any more around here. > > Fortunately, they appear to hav

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2016-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I Haight them --R On 2/11/16 10:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I am very familiar with the Asbury group. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: My dealership is owned by a huge conglomerate, Asbury Group, based

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2016-02-11 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Tonight SWMBO flattened a tire on the '95 E300. Took me about twenty minutes to swap it out for the spare, and the lug bolts came out so nice and easy with the OE lug wrench. I normally tighten them to the proper torque with a torque wrench, no need for power anything. I can see using the

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2016-02-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
ways >> strikes fear into their hearts. ;) >> Seriously, his lawyer is going to have a field day... >> -Curt >> >> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: Dan Penoff <d

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2016-02-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I use rattle gun on slow to run them in but always final tighten by hand Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Tonight SWMBO flattened a tire on the '95 E300. Took me about twenty minutes > to swap it out for the

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2016-02-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
My dealership is owned by a huge conglomerate, Asbury Group, based in Atlanta. There is no local ownership any more around here. Fortunately, they appear to have left the worker bees in place for the most part, so it has no effect on my business with the place. I will say that people keep

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2016-02-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I guess you have to check the work before driving off the lot. A car stealer lying? what a novel idea!They are only about 100 notches above lawyers, and maybe 50 above bankers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2016-02-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I agree with Dan, I (with no prior experience or knowledge) thought that George was taking advantage of his position in the club. I ordered George's used oil lab analysis kits, sent in a sample and got the results back, and there was no soot number! I called the lab tech about it, he said "we

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2016-02-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
My experience with George was also positive, although I never did actual business with him. He spoke twice at our FL Panhandle Mercedes club (back when it existed and I lived there) and provided much useful information, although mostly non-Diesel. He also provided free tech information I once

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2016-02-11 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Dan, I completely understand if you've had bad "personal experiences". I've been around awhile and am a "past" member of the MBCA. All of these clubs and lists have gone through ups and downs. This list has had peaks and valleys. Stu Ritter's list is dying for several reasons. But as I've

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2016-02-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:23:11 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Don't your BBC guys who did your top computer do the CC relay too? And then there's the guy out in Morro Bay, CA. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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2016-02-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
- Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crui

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2016-02-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not working. It's been years since I dealt with this stuff - who does cruise amps these days? Wasn't Beckmann one of the places? Dan My rusty old heap has a good one. On the 1500 mile trip, i gingerly tried the cruise

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2016-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Mercedes" > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:53 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source > > >> Talking to a W126 owner and they

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2016-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Also progarama Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not > working. It’s been years since I dealt with this stuff - who does cruise > amps these

[MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

2016-02-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not working. It’s been years since I dealt with this stuff - who does cruise amps these days? Wasn’t Beckmann one of the places? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2016-02-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
And the guy in TN? Wha's'is name? Murphy? George? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Wednesday, Feb

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2016-02-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
cedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:53 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source > > >> Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not >> working. It’s be

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2016-02-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
ot;Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source George doesn’t repair them himself, I believe, he brokers them from others and just marks up the price. He’s MBCA old guard who used their positions to benefit from the club me