Royce Engler wrote:
It was my understanding that DC built the PT Cruiser as a delivery vehicle
(truck) in the European market, showed it at an auto show and the Americans
demanded that they sell it over here. They couldn't keep up with demand for
the first couple of yearsOTOH, it is just a
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:58:46PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote:
> HELL NO. The damn MB engines are made by Detroit. Cummins makes a MUCH
> better product. MB makes a (well, this is questionable) kick ass car
> engine, but that's what's made in the Mother Land.
Does anyone know how the MB en
He actually liked the diesel engine in the Jeep he reviewed this
weekend. It was a V6 MB engine..it was the only thing he liked.
It is nice to see someone have anopinion these days though..
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
Yes, he really pisses me off with his racing against public transport.
He takes a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti and drives to Switzerland while his
compatriots take the train.oh, and he arrives at the same time as
them all fresh as a daisy! YEAH RIGHT!!
Oh, and how much did the fuel cost to run
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Too vanillaI know for one that Jeremy Clarkson absolutely
> hates them and says so on his tv show and in his columns.
Oh, yeah, by strange coincidence he seems to find British cars to be fine an
inordinate amount of the time. And he whinges on about diesels ad nause
I doubt it was designed for Europe as the looks are just too US for
them. Too vanillaI know for one that Jeremy Clarkson absolutely
hates them and says so on his tv show and in his columns.
This is actually a breath of fresh air as so many reviews are too mamby
pamby about calling a POS a
JabbaHursty wrote:
>
> i really dug the pt cruiser. one of the cars i'd look it if i ever had an
> inclination to buy a new car
I have no inclination to buy a small 4 cyl car that gets no better mpg than my
3.8L Taurus.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It was my understanding that DC built the PT Cruiser as a delivery vehicle
> (truck) in the European market, showed it at an auto show and the Americans
> demanded that they sell it over here.
Hmmm, no, I don't see that from two angles: one, I think the PT was either a
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You can have a PT Cruiser, Dodge Grand Voyager or Cheap Cherokee all
with diesel in Europe
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body...
Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K
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It's Mother Russia - Germany is the Vaterland (Father
Land).
CM
--- Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HELL NO. The damn MB engines are made by Detroit.
> Cummins makes a MUCH
> better product. MB makes a (well, this is
> questionable) kick ass car
> engine, but that's what's mad
HELL NO. The damn MB engines are made by Detroit. Cummins makes a MUCH
better product. MB makes a (well, this is questionable) kick ass car
engine, but that's what's made in the Mother Land.
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:01:11 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
yea, I thoug
Hmmm - wonder if I could buy the engine and have it shipped over for
my Grand Voyager? The original 3.3 engine uses more oil (Mobil 1 since
new) and has needed more repairs than any of my Benzs (SLC excluded)
from '97 to date.
On 9/13/05, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can have a PT
You can have a PT Cruiser, Dodge Grand Voyager or Cheap Cherokee all
with diesel in Europe...I think the 2.7 CDI from the M Class.
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
AH, that explains it, I was wondering because Consumer Reports talked
about how that
engine in real world conditions got 50% less MPG than EPA numbers. I
couldn't understand
if it was a CDI MB engine why the numbers could be so skewed/wrong/
deceitful.
Lets see
"VM Motori, which is owned in
yea, I thought they were supposed to put a MB engine in it. Makes no
sense sincemb had plenty of diesel engines. In fact, I think its about
time to start putting MB truck engines in the rams.
Peter Frederick wrote:
The new Liberty diesel is, you guessed it, a Detroit 16:1 four banger
with a
The new Liberty diesel is, you guessed it, a Detroit 16:1 four banger
with a monster turbocharger, shakes like crazy, rattles like it has
ball bearings loose in the combustion chambers, and gets all of 21 mpg
-- a recipe for lack of sales if I ever saw one.
What happened to the five cylinder t
the jeep boys (buyers not sellers) like the 4 banger and are slobbering
all over themselves to get the larger engine models. At least this is
according to BiL who goes rock crawling in the silly things
On Tuesday, September 13, 2005, at 07:27 AM, Steve MacSween wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
I just like the idea that the morons at Chrylser can get it right but
always somewhere else
There's ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE I would ever buy an american vehicle. I
spent 2 years at a dealership that used to be Jeep and was now a Toyota.
Our cars came in for oil changes, mufflers and brakes,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> According to Jeremy Clarkson of the Times Of London, the best thing
> about the new Jeep *shudder* Grand Cherokee is the Mercedes V6 Diesel
> engine!!
LoL, would you buy one anyway?
Just wait until it arrives. The automotive writers will start whinging on
about this an
According to Jeremy Clarkson of the Times Of London, the best thing
about the new Jeep *shudder* Grand Cherokee is the Mercedes V6 Diesel
engine!!
Wish we could get that here!!
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050913/bs_nm/autos_chrysler2_dc
Ridenour said he expected hybrids to make up about
5-15 percent of the U.S. market once they were cheap
enough for the common man. Diesel would take another
5-15 percent with gasoline accounting for the rest, he
said.
In Europe, where d
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