Low gas prices may not last long:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304331204577352161288275978.html
Gerry
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes:
Electric generation from natural gas generally serves a
different purpose than coal. The coal is used for baseline
which can take a week
Big story on NPR yesterday about the sinking price of natural gas due to ease
of extraction what with fracking and how they'll extract nat gas to get to
propane and such. I was reminded that there is apparently some process to turn
natural gas into diesel fuel and made me wonder if a diesel
Just make the bribe subtle and BIG enough, this is America after all.
Cynical? Me? nah!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
On 4/18/2012 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Big story on NPR yesterday . Fuel America with fuel from America. Gotta
figure out how to get CARB on board...
-Curt
Didn't the Germans do that in WW2? The fuel part I mean, though they
probably could have handled CARB as well.
--R
On 4/18/12 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Big story on NPR yesterday about the sinking price of natural gas due to ease
of extraction what with fracking and how they'll extract
CARB is a sinking ship, let it sink and let's move forward. Grow a set
America !
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Big story on NPR yesterday about the sinking price of natural gas due to
ease of extraction what with fracking and how they'll extract nat
Guys,
I've been preaching this for years. During WWII the Germans needed a source for
diesel and couldn't get oil so they created diesel from natural gas. This was
lost after the war and everyone could once again get oil. Then several years
ago (6-10) one of the colleges on the Left Coast ran
Yes, we should be doing this - a surplus of one resource, and a need for
another - convert the gas to Diesel.
However, the companies that will be doing this (unless the government
nationalizes it) will be selling to the highest bidder - likely China,
India, Brazel, etc. THERE IS NO US OIL - get
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Big story on NPR yesterday about the sinking price of natural gas due
to ease of extraction what with fracking and how they'll extract nat
gas to get to propane and such. I was reminded that there is apparently
some process to turn natural gas into diesel
Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes:
Better plan would be convert our gas cars to run on CNG.
Except that requires huge new infrastructure in fueling stations and
delivery, not just producing the vehicles. Same problem with
hydrogen-fueled cars.
Diesel works in the pumps and delivery systems
OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, we should be doing this - a surplus of one resource, and a need
for
another - convert the gas to Diesel.
However, the companies that will be doing this (unless the government
nationalizes it) will be selling to the highest bidder - likely China,
India, Brazel,
I suspect that natural gas prices will rise in the future. They won't stay
low forever. For the longest time coal was one of the cheapest ways to
make power, but with emissions controls costing billions, and cheap natural
gas - it can be economical for new plants to use natural gas. And that's
Oil prices are not market driven. Oil is not a free market.
-Dave Walton
On Apr 18, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, we should be doing this - a surplus of one resource, and a need
for
another - convert the gas to Diesel.
No! Fischer Tropf was coal to Dissel and gasoline. Crude from coal
yields several fractions similar to petro crude.
Didn't the Germans do that in WW2? The fuel part I mean, though
they probably could have handled CARB as well.
--R
On 4/18/12 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Big story on
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Big story on NPR yesterday about the sinking price of natural
gas due to ease of extraction what with fracking and how
they'll extract nat gas to get to propane and such.
Max wrote:
Better plan would be convert our gas cars to run on CNG.
You
Brian Toscano wrote:
For the longest time coal was
one of the cheapest ways to make power, but with emissions
controls costing billions, and cheap natural gas - it can be
economical for new plants to use natural gas.
Electric generation from natural gas generally serves a
different purpose
If they can make diesel they can also make gasoline.
That's what they're doing with half the diesel they
_could_ be making now. Cracking it to gasoline.
-- Jim
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Certain parts of the country use gas fired plants for various reasons -
sometimes purely for emissions, other times for periods of high demand.
However, with today's current low and abundant natural gas, some power
generators are replacing aging coal stations with natural gas.
I don't think that
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes:
Electric generation from natural gas generally serves a
different purpose than coal. The coal is used for baseline
which can take a week to startup. The natural gas is used for
on-demand. Startup is less than an hour, as I recall.
Can be just minutes, some
You're talking about CCPP, or combined cycle power plants.
These are commonly coal fired steam plants that utilize a gas turbine for
peaking.
Large gas turbines can typically be spun up in 20 minutes or less, depending on
the model. GE and other manufacturers have refined the gas turbine to
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Max wrote:
Better plan would be convert our gas cars to run on CNG.
You convert yours to run on CNG - I'll keep mine running on
diesel, thanks. *smiles*
-- Philip
I'm thinking hard about doing that - to my Wifes car!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300,
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