[MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Has anyone else run into a serial differential swapping issue? I have been through about four differentials in the past year on the 300td and the 560sel. Originals started whining so I thought I was doing a good thing by swapping, but then the replacement on the wagon seems to have blown a seal and

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I had similar trouble with my '85 190D. It got very loud before I replaced it and the replacement was just as loud as that which I removed. The problem here would be, apparently, the fact that they're so good in the first place. Remember we're talking about nearly 40 year old cars here. It's pr

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
My 1987 300TD had a whine somewhere aft. So being a genius I replaced the diff assembly, and it still whined. Center bearing, only six months old, was talking to me. Replaced it and viola quiet as can be. YMMV. Fred On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 3:16 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
You need to find a differential shop and send them over. Other than a major component, like a ring or pinion, I can’t imagine they couldn’t rebuild them back to new. Let me ask around… -D Sent from my iPad > On Jun 7, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > My 1987 300T

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Contact Pierre Hedary and ask him. Randy On 07/06/2023 1:46 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone else run into a serial differential swapping issue? I have been through about four differentials in the past year on the 300td and the 560sel. Originals started whining so I thought I w

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yeah he has responded to my emails before. Usually telling me to contact someone here in CA that I or my mechanic have already talked to. But it is nice to triangulate. On Wed, Jun 7, 2023, 2:30 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Contact Pierre Hedary and ask him. > >

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yeah I should think any competent shop could give it a go. But Herbert says the rebuilt ones tend to fail about as often as the junkyard ones do. Nobody seems to have the jig they used to determine the pinion position with the least whine, or maybe it was the shim thickness for the axle stub bearin

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I have a 420SEL rear diff/axles but I think we are a continent apart so shipping might be spendy --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jun 7, 2023, at 10:49 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yeah I should think any competent shop could give it a go. But Herbert says > the rebuilt ones tend to

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I get it, I hate being stranded on the side of the road. Hopefully you're just having some bad luck. Of all the cars I see broken down on the shoulder, they are rarely Mercedes. On Wed, Jun 7, 2023, at 21:48, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > Yeah I should think any competent shop could give

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-08 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I’m told that the only trusted people to do differentials is Stu Ritter’s former shop in Denver and Blue Ridge in Atlanta. -D > On Jun 7, 2023, at 10:34 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yeah he has responded to my emails before. Usually telling me to contact > someone here in CA

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 07/06/2023 1:46 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone else run into a serial differential swapping issue . . . but then the replacement on the wagon seems to have blown a seal and is trying to seize up while the 560 locked up tight on the 405 yesterday Is there enough play in th

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
His Youtube videos suggest he is quite approachable. I think I would try to phone him. He must have encountered differential problems and may have a solution. Randy On 07/06/2023 9:33 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Yeah he has responded to my emails before. Usually telling me to contac

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-08 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I'd get ahold of Sun Valley and see who they recommend. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-09 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I have a “new” 2.24 W126 diff, if that’s useful to you! I bought a parts stash and there were several new from MB diffs in there, NOS. Jaime On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 2:47 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Has anyone else run into a serial differential swapping issu

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-10 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The original differentials in the 85 wagon and the 88 560sel both started to make progressively louder whirring sounds, so they were on their way out. I replaced both. Wagon had about 211k on the clock and the 560 99k. Not nearly the hundreds of thousands others seem to get. Replacememt on 560 loc

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-10 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Interesting. The wrecking yard here has two more in stock so I will probably just keep swapping until I get a good one. Thanks. There is a guy here who claims to have the setup to do a rebuild also. They are in Irvine or somewhere. He sold me the 500e rear subframe for my 87 wagon project. On T

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-10 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yeah me too. The unblemished record for us is getting shakier, though. The 85 wagon left my wife and kids on foot when the master brake cylinder failed and applied the rear brakes continuously. That was unexpected. The AC fuse melted through the fuse block when the nanny was running the AC continu

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> the master brake cylinder failed and applied the rear brakes continuously. I had that happen on the 190D. A few strokes with a file cured that. (The release valve wasn't depressed properly when the pedal was released. Poor tolerances on manufacture, I believe.) -- Jim __

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Question: What oil have you used in the diff's that failed? Ring and Pinion gears are held in strict position by properly shimmed bearings. As long as that strict position is maintained, they will run silently. As soon as shim or bearing wear happens the relationship of Ring to Pinion shifts, and b

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
IF the owner ever took the car to a "quick change" oil shop, and got sold by the guy holding a dirty rag in their face saying "your differential oil is dirty" then who knows what it was filled with. On Sun, Jun 11, 2023, at 13:19, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Question: > What oil have you used

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-11 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
All good thoughts. The LSD in the 560 was running the special factory LSD sauce when it died. No guarantee it had that all of its life. The wagon ran whatever mercedes recommended for the 120k before I swapped it out. It had about 80k on it when I bought it and was a two owner car I think. I kind

Re: [MBZ] Differentials

2023-06-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Thanks, thus my point in asking, what oil was used.. On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 1:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > IF the owner ever took the car to a "quick change" oil shop, and got sold > by the guy holding a dirty rag in their face saying "your differential oil

Re: [MBZ] differentials - was:Chevy, Dodge, Ford Diesels

2008-12-18 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:02:31 -0800 (PST), Curt wrote: > So its a gear driven limited slip? Thus limiting the wearing > out of clutches and whatnot? Right. No clutches. Uses torque sensing. > Why better than a locker? A locker provides even motion to the wheels. So if the traction