Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-22 Thread Jim Cathey
You can easily confirm this if you get an IR thermometer and measure the temperature of both the inlet and outlet of the radiator when the engine is warmed up.  You should see a noticeable temperature drop from inlet to outlet, even with the car sitting still and idling. A good justification

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-22 Thread Dan Penoff
It has been my experience that if the core is clogged, a citric acid flush is not going to accomplish much, ad the solution can't get to the clogged portion of the core. That is, it can't flow past or through the clogged areas. It may clear out the parts that are partially clogged, but the

[MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread Curt Raymond
So my '84 190D has always run hot, the needle would go up to around 95 and drop back down and up and down slowly while driving but it was never an issue, now with the arrival of warmer weather it seems to be getting worse. So yesterday I put a thermostat in it, Rusty had sent me one some time

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
With hot and running look around for leaks. As for why it is running hot i would guess the radiator is clogged. Does the electric fan clutch kick in? Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So my '84 190D has always run hot, the needle would

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Pressure test -- leaks are obvious by drips or hissing. I would guess you do not have a functioning main fan -- they have an electric clutch on that model, and you are only getting cooling from the electric fan, hence heating to 95C or so up and down. If the fans work properly, and there

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread Jim Cathey
So my '84 190D has always run hot, the needle would go up to around 95 and drop back down and up and down slowly while driving but it was never an issue, now with the arrival of warmer weather it seems to be getting worse. If it's not the thermostat, chances are that it's the radiator. Try a

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread LWB250
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D So my '84 190D has always run hot, the needle would go up to around 95 and drop back down and up and down slowly while driving but it was never an issue, now with the arrival of warmer

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread LWB250
Another thing to consider - does it run hot at or above a certain speed?  If so, it's clogged.   Dan     From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D If you pull the radiator, just stick

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread Curt Raymond
...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D Message-ID: sig.51227a60db.3fe3c30b-c472-4966-8ae8-094fc8ad5...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii With hot and running look around for leaks. As for why it is running hot i would guess

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread Curt Raymond
: Saturday, May 21, 2011 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D If you pull the radiator, just stick a garden hose in the inlet and see how much comes out the bottom - you'll know if it's clogged. ? Not uncommon for a radiator to be clogged in a car that old.? Usually under $100 to have it rodded out

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread LWB250
, May 21, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D Doesn't seem to be speed dependent, does seem to be load dependent. Specifically if I'm coming up an incline in high gear with low rpms... -Curt Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 11:31:18 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread Curt Raymond
I expect you're right, it hadn't occurred to me to try the IR thermometer, I've got one, will give it a shot. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:25:17 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D Message-ID: 363589.99351

Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D

2011-05-21 Thread OK Don
radiator from my experience. And I've had a couple of them in both 123 and 126 chassis cars. Dan From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot 190D Doesn't seem