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2018-11-29 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
clay monroe wrote: > ...In an over crowded garden, or overgrown orchard, you prune and cull. Sign me up. The garden seems too evil today (my opinion) so Cullen is the ticket. Where is Cullen these days? i.e. Rusty? tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To sea

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2018-11-28 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Washington voters, green to the core on the wetside voted that sort of idiocy down not three weeks ago clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Nov 28, 2018, at 3:08 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://www.atr.org/details-horrible-carbon-tax-bill > > Posted by John Kartch on

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2018-11-28 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Population pressures. Yeah, that is the ticket! What is needed is the natural response of pressure. Put in a pressure situation, you either blow up or squish it all. In an over crowded garden, or overgrown orchard, you prune and cull. A good gardener does not profit from allowing weeds to p

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2018-11-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
https://www.atr.org/details-horrible-carbon-tax-bill Posted by John Kartch on Wednesday, November 28th, 2018, 12:01 AM PERMALINK Democrat Florida Congressman Ted Deutch has introduced a carbon tax bill to impose a new national energy tax on the American people. The bill is a massive tax incre

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2018-11-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not really. Look at the migration crises, famine, war, etc. a lot of which is a reaction to population pressures. On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 2:46 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 28/11/2018 10:41 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > https://market-ticker.org/akc

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2018-11-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 28/11/2018 10:41 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=234608 Rick ___ When I was in first year university back in 1975, I remember being told that there was a genuine concern that the earth could not support 4 bill

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2018-11-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
EEEK! You can't expose TRUE believers to (sh ) facts or (shh, shh) science! Rick Knoble via Mercedes November 28, 2018 at 10:41 AM https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=234608 Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.co

[MBZ] Interesting Op-ed Piece

2018-11-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=234608 Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

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2018-08-07 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
edes Discussion List > Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interesting Op-ed Piece > > Well, in today's Milwaukee urinal-sentinal (usta be a real newspaper or > 2) they had a long article saying the USA should have no border checks or >

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2018-08-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Well, in today's Milwaukee urinal-sentinal (usta be a real newspaper or 2) they had a long article saying the USA should have no border checks or enforcement. Just let anyone invade who wants to. Dumber than a rock is my submission to answer your question. Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: I

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2018-08-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Internet scam. On Aug 3, 2018 2:59 PM, "Larry Turner via Mercedes" wrote: > I rec'd a email linking me to an article about a piece of legislation that > would make it illegal to harm plants, with the intent being to give plants > the same rights as Humans. How dumb can people get? Very! would

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2018-08-03 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I rec'd a email linking me to an article about a piece of legislation that would make it illegal to harm plants, with the intent being to give plants the same rights as Humans.  How dumb can people get?  Very!  would be the correct answer. LarryT On 07/31/2018 12:51 AM, clay monroe via Merce

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2018-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I agree on this. Lets burn somebody else's fuel first, keep ours for us for later. I hate it when the price of gas rises and suddenly theres a call to tap the national oil reserve. $5/gal gas does not constitute an emergency... -Curt On Tuesday, July 31, 2018, 2:03:06 AM EDT, Max Dillon via

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2018-07-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
U.S. energy "reserves" like ANWR are about the single area that I get protectionist, for national security (long term dominance) reasons. Energy is part of the foundation of our economy. We should be selling China nuke plants, not fossil fuels. Sell them fracking services, let them develop th

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2018-07-30 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Global climate change Faces on the food. It has a face, so it can not be eaten or used for any product Pleather shoes are all they can wear clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976

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2018-07-30 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
The demand is there, the foreseeable future, when it was being considered, included more of the same toxic business environment coming out of DC. The Majors did not want to pony up for making it happen if they had to deal with eco-nazi regulators. Even the state was slow on the draw and could

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2018-07-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
you wrote the below.  What? Larry On 07/31/2018 12:14 AM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote: ...GCC, because faces ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: htt

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2018-07-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
if the price reaches the right tipping point the money will appear.   The trick is knowing the price level will stay high enough to making it a lasting proposition.  ROI is still king... But it sounds like China isn't letting energy hold it back. Recently they were commissioning a new coal fir

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2018-07-30 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Why would you agree to contribute to the impact upon the climate change, when you could walk the talk and work toward a solution? The Vegan idiots who decide to wear plastic shoes, which contribute to GCC, because faces. The real way to do it is to not use anything. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch

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2018-07-30 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
There are trillions of cubic meters of NG just waiting for a way to get to the rest of the world in ANWR. There was plan to make a tube to send it to LNG plant so it could be used by China. Nobody had the funds to make the pipe. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 198

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2018-07-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I really think Mr Peters' comment that the diesel "cheating" was contrived to destroy the passenger diesel car industry in favor of the electric car "industry" (if it can be called that) is a valid theory.   I wonder how long before government subsidies will kick in again to push electric vehic

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2018-07-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You are assuming that the State's thresholds for passing the emissions tests and roadside machines are the same as the federal emissions standards. It's not a given that they are. Granted, the Fed requirement is un realistically stringent, but it's the rule, and VW (and others) cheated to meet it.

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2018-07-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Max sez: >"Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime."  - >Lavrentiy Beria, head of >Joseph Stalin’s secret >police. I thought that was a quote from Robert Mueller.  Yeah, I know. Enough. Rick Who finds it hard to resist low hanging fruit sometimes ___

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2018-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Oil is a fluid mineral according to your federal govetnment. On Jul 30, 2018 2:52 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" wrote: > If you believe in global warming, you have already demonstrated a > willingness to accept lack of logic and bad science rejecting fossil > fuels isn't such a large move... > >

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2018-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Very little. On Jul 30, 2018 3:12 PM, wrote: Oil is a fluid mineral according to your federal govetnment. On Jul 30, 2018 2:52 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" wrote: If you believe in global warming, you have already demonstrated a willingness to accept lack of logic and bad science rejecting fo

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2018-07-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I like the logic, either the emissions tests and the roadside detection machines are worthless, or the "cheating" is manufactured to achieve a goal. "Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria, head of Joseph Stalin’s secret police. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '

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2018-07-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
If you believe in global warming, you have already demonstrated a willingness to accept lack of logic and bad science rejecting fossil fuels isn't such a large move... Refresh me again how much pollutant material does a volcano put out per hour, compared to what mankind puts out? On Mon,

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2018-07-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I often wonder if crude oil is a mineral...  Like the core of the Earth is full of it... But hey, I'm no geology major.  Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go t

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2018-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So in order to believe in global warming one needs to completely break off from fossil fuels? On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > If you truly believed the global warming propaganda, Andrew, you would not > drive an old diesel. > > You wo

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2018-07-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
If you truly believed the global warming propaganda, Andrew, you would not drive an old diesel. You would have sent it to the crusher in order to avoid the possibility of someone else polluting with it, and got yourself a Tesla. Then you could charge it up with nice coal generated electricity!

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2018-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Earth to Curley: Don't be the last man in the room who thinks global warming is a myth. On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Trying to inject reason into the "global warming" religion! > > Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >> https://www.e

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2018-07-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Trying to inject reason into the "global warming" religion! Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2018/07/06/sniffing-a-scandal/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubs

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2018-07-30 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
For many years I've thought that synthetic diesel would eventually be the answer. Basically zero pollution, could use the methane from our landfills, Alaska tundra, coal mines, etc. But the oil companies wouldn't have a monopoly on it so not much has been done there. If you move the businesse

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2018-07-29 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I'm not sure I trust the regulators who are coming up with the ever more stringent requirements for emissions released.  Who are the regulators?  What are they trying to achieve?  If they are working toward Zero Emissions I suspect we are being treated like the proverbial frog being put into ho

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2018-07-29 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Actually, it was a research group at a University testing new sniffer equipment (that will fit in a car, so you can test while driving, unlike the old equipment which is pretty big) who found the "up to forty times" the level of NOx. Still very low numbers compared to old diesels. The real iss

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2018-07-29 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Thanks Rick. Makes sense to me. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jul 29, 2018 2:50 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" wrote: > > https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2018/07/06/sniffing-a-scandal/ > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives htt

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2018-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2018/07/06/sniffing-a-scandal/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okieb