> David Bruckmann wrote:
> The ADA was introduced with the 617.912 in the W123.
It was also used on the 4 cylinder OM616. My W123s with OM616
engines all have ADAs.
The turbo OM617.95 engines got the ALDA.
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> Brian Toscano wrote:
> NA engines lose 4% of power for every 1000 ft above sea. In
> Fort Collins you'd be down 20%. Turbo/super charged engines
> aren't affected as much - maybe 10% total loss even at 10,000
> ft.
After the turbo spools up. I drove a W123 turbo to the top of
Pike's Peak at
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Craig wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:05:40 -0600 Peter Frederick
> wrote:
>
> > The earlier W115s have vacuum governors -- if you don't floor the
> > pedal, it will regulate for proper fuel for altitude.
>
I believe the NA auto '74 240D (616.xxx) was manual. I
I never made it above 3958 feet with Gump, so higher altitude driving is out of
my area. Being able to row the gears did allow for very good throttle
positioning within the power band so you could climb without needing to lay
down a Bondsian amount of sight obscuring fog or letting loose an oil
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:05:40 -0600 Peter Frederick
wrote:
> The earlier W115s have vacuum governors -- if you don't floor the
> pedal, it will regulate for proper fuel for altitude.
I don't know what arrangement the '72 220D/8 had, but one had to pay
attention to throttle position to maintain t
The earlier W115s have vacuum governors -- if you don't floor the
pedal, it will regulate for proper fuel for altitude. However, full
"throttle" overrides the governor.
Peter
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What David said - I don't recall the '70 220D having the altitude
adjustment, and thought it was to cool deal when I got the '76 300D. The
'81 240D had the ADA - auto adjustment.
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:40 AM, David Bruckmann <
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote:
> Nope. My '76 300D (617.910
I agree with Mr Bruckmann on this. I drove my NA 200D from sealevel
to 4000 ft frequently with little problem. Every time I drove a NA
Diesel MB into higher altitudes, the performance was bad and so was
the smoke. even at 7000 ft, the NA (non ADA) diesels were bad. If
I could not find or
NA engines lose 4% of power for every 1000 ft above sea. In Fort Collins
you'd be down 20%. Turbo/super charged engines aren't affected as much -
maybe 10% total loss even at 10,000 ft.
On Sunday, January 6, 2013, David Bruckmann wrote:
> Nope. My '76 300D (617.910) has a manual adjustment knob
Nope. My '76 300D (617.910) has a manual adjustment knob on the injection pump.
Four settings based on altitude. The ADA was introduced with the 617.912 in the
W123.
Either way, aside from reducing smoke the adjustment/ADA cannot make up for the
lowered oxygen density at higher alts.
D.
Ric
On my next X country trip I'll keep that in mind:)
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On Jan 6, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Craig wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:29:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> When I drove my 220D cross country in 2003, it had a really hard time
>> on grades up high in Colorado. 30mph in
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:29:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> When I drove my 220D cross country in 2003, it had a really hard time
> on grades up high in Colorado. 30mph in the right lane belching out
> black smoke getting passed by semis.
You should have backed off the throttle -- you would h
When I drove my 220D cross country in 2003, it had a really hard time on grades
up high in Colorado. 30mph in the right lane belching out black smoke getting
passed by semis. Still kind of fun. A little adventure:)
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On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:45 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:
> On Jan
How would a NA Diesel run up here at 5000FT altitude?
Maybe a bit puny? My recollection is that a NA diesel
(Ford PU) is a bit overwhelmed in the Denver area.
It should run just fine. I *think* Naturally Aspirated (NA) Mercedes
have barometric compensation on the injection pumps, so it should
On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 23:45:32 -0600 Rick Knoble
wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Kevin Kraly"
> wrote:
>
> > How would a NA Diesel run up here at 5000FT altitude?
They run just fine. I bought our '72 220D/8 in Colorado Springs (6200')
and used in later in the Black Forest area (7200') and
On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Kevin Kraly" wrote:
> How would a NA Diesel run up here at 5000FT altitude?
It should run just fine. I *think* Naturally Aspirated (NA) Mercedes have
barometric compensation on the injection pumps, so it shouldn't matter. NA
pumps have ADA as opposed to turbo pum
I really want to get a W115 Diesel. Up here in Colorado, there aren't many
W123's around, let alone W115's. How would a NA Diesel run up here at
5000FT altitude? The '77 240D was quite slow even at sea level, nothing
else with which to compare it to know if it was running as it should.
Kevi
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