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If you get a minute, could you draw a sketch showing the positions?
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Craig McCluskey wrote:
Not necessarily. LEDs (light emitting diodes) are just starting to be
introduced. I'm not sure of the ecology of their manufacture, but they're
solid and not liquid like mercury.
FWIW, I was looking at ceiling fans at Home Depot the other day and they
sold a fan that
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From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm
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my point is that cf gives you more options. it uses less
energy and creates less heat. it's a pure winner to me.
Craig McCluskey wrote
R A Bennell wrote:
Have you ever seen the old lamps used by miners? They use - forgive me if my
chemistry is wrong here - carbide and water. If I recall correctly the
carbide is what is used to make acetelyne.
Calcuim Carbide.
That's how car headlights used to work.
I went caving a few times with a buddy, the lamps were carbide. You'd
fill a little metal cup with carbide pellets, add a bit of water, screw
it onto the light fixture, light the little hole where the gas came out,
and you would get about 45 min of enough light to see quite well in the
cave.
If you get a minute, could you draw a sketch showing the positions?
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Have you ever seen the old lamps used by miners? They use - forgive me
if my chemistry is wrong here - carbide and water.
Yep, calcium carbide in water releases acetylene. A solventy-smelling
gas that burns sootily in air, and extremely hotly in oxygen. It
has a double-carbon bond to break,
cf has let me get rid of that nasty yellow light in favor of much happier
for me cool white light. i now live between 5k and 6.5k kelvin and am most
pleased with it.
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am finding that I need a whole lot more light as I get
Fmiser wrote:
Why not base our light needs on a measurement of light output!
Then it won't matter if the light source is CF, incandescent,
burning sulfur, LED, HPS, or something else, we will be able to
compare light output against light output. *sigh* Marketing!
Most of the light bulbs I
I have ordered some white LED home bulbs to try. From what I read and hear,
this is what we will all end up using. Some break throughs have occured
lately and hopefully will soon make it to the market.
Harry
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cf has let me
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cf has let me get rid of that nasty yellow light in favor of much
happier for me cool white light. i now live between 5k and 6.5k
kelvin and am most pleased with it.
I can't stand that industrial blue/white flourscent color at all. I
would never consider
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cf has let me get rid of that nasty yellow light in favor of much
happier for me cool white light. i now live between 5k and 6.5k
kelvin and am most pleased with it.
I can't
the point is that everyone now can get whatever they like. I like between
the full spectrum bulbs and super ice blue. i get happy just looking at
it in teh same way that yellow warm made me sad.
i've even [put in some blue and UV black lights. they make me happy as
well. do i claim any of this
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate
the point is that everyone now can get whatever they like. I like between
the full spectrum bulbs and super ice blue. i get happy just looking
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:14:25 -0500 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
my point is that cf gives you more options. it uses less energy and
creates less heat. it's a pure winner to me.
And the mercury from poor disposal will find its way into our water. And
unlike radioactive materials, will
i don't know nothing at all about that stuff, but it doesn't sound good.
you want me to give up white light no heat for crappy yellow light?
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:14:25 -0500 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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my
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:55 -0500 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
i don't know nothing at all about that stuff, but it doesn't sound good.
you want me to give up white light no heat for crappy yellow light?
Not necessarily. LEDs (light emitting diodes) are just starting to be
so, until then, i just shouldn't throw the bulbs in the river?
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:55 -0500 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i don't know nothing at all about that stuff, but it doesn't sound good.
you
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:08:17 -0500 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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so, until then, i just shouldn't throw the bulbs in the river?
Uh ... yeah ...
Craig
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:55 -0500 Gary Hurst
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I'm building a 20x36 garage with 3 roll up doors and was considering 8
4'
sections of incandescent tubes on each side of the garage for a total
of 16.
My 24x36 has 15 2-tube 96 HO fixtures in it. About 3kW of lights
when they're all on. Two down each aisle (including sides, with
another
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my point is that cf gives you more options. it uses less
energy and creates less heat. it's a pure winner to me.
Craig McCluskey wrote:
And the mercury from poor disposal will find its way into
our water. And unlike radioactive materials, will NEVER
Or maybe use oil lamps burning whale oil... Naw, that's a yellow
light too.
Put in Aladdin kerosene mantle lamps. All the heat (and more)
of an incandescent, with the lovely greenish color balance of an
old-school fluorescent. And the thorium in the mantle is
radioactive. About a 60W
I am finding that I need a whole lot more light as I get
older. When we moved into our house in 1981 my wife and I
swapped bulbs until everything was 40W and it was fine. Over
the years we have moved up to 60W and then 100W and then on to
halogen 150W and ceiling fixtures with more bulbs and
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