Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-14 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: Best to plaster with concrete, then put the tile over that. If you don't want to go that route, use cement backer board meant for use in showers, and plaster the joints with cement. Anything else will result in leakage. I would agree for

Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-14 Thread Curt Raymond
just not real excited about my ability to cut it accurately. -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:26:51 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile Message-ID: 2a5b0d50-78e3-4e7b-80cb-54fd8527a...@earthlink.net

[MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Anybody ever lay any tile? I want to do a new backsplash in my kitchen, its currently nasty fake wood paneling and I want to do alternating white and blue tiles. The big question is can I tile right over the fake wood paneling or do I have to pull it and put some kind of backer board? When

Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-13 Thread G Mann
I advise spending the extra bucks and time to rip out the fake wood and use concrete backer board. The wood will always swell due to any moisture and when it does the tile will hydro-jack right off. Result, job ruined. The cement board will give a stable base for the tile and it will lay down

Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-13 Thread Dave Walton
I use durock over plywood regardless of where it goes. You could leave out the pink water barrier. Premixed mortar sucks. Wet the tile before setting it and it bonds better. We bought a Harbor Freight tile saw 10 years ago, loan it out all the time, and it is still going strong with at least

Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-13 Thread Allan Streib
Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com writes: We bought a Harbor Freight tile saw 10 years ago, loan it out all the time, and it is still going strong with at least several hundred hours on it. Absolutely buy or rent a tile saw. You will never want to use the score and snap tile cutters again.

Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Best to plaster with concrete, then put the tile over that. If you don't want to go that route, use cement backer board meant for use in showers, and plaster the joints with cement. Anything else will result in leakage. I've repaired to much of the cheapo way, do it right. Peter On

Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-13 Thread Rich Thomas
He's talking about the backsplash in the kitchen, it really is not going to do much of anything but look nice, and maybe get a few (back)splashes of water or food spatters now and then. You can get Hardi board in 1/4 or 1/2, either one would be fine, and maybe even use the tile adhesive.

Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-13 Thread Peter Frederick
And in ten years it starts to rot out. Cement board is cheap enough, and I don't like re-doing what is supposed to be a permanent job. Peter On Dec 13, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: He's talking about the backsplash in the kitchen, it really is not going to do much of anything

Re: [MBZ] OT: laying tile

2011-12-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I agree, but my point is it probably will not see much in the way of wet. But most new jobs I have seen in the kitchen (might) use greenboard if not just right on regular wallboard. Cheapass builder approach. If you are doing it new, easy enough to go with the cement board of some sort.