[MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-06 Thread Allan Streib
MIL calls says her furnace is out. I guess it must be catching. Anyway, I go out there and the controller trouble light is blinking 4 times: open high limit switch. This furnace has two limit switches, one in the plenum where the burner tubes are, and one up on the blower housing. A tripp

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-06 Thread Jim Cathey
> Can an electric motor...overheat and not be obviously hard to turn? Yes, if there is a shorted winding. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubsc

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-06 Thread Allan Streib
What would cause a shorted winding? Do they "just happen" sometimes? On Jan 6, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> Can an electric motor...overheat and not be obviously hard to turn? > > Yes, if there is a shorted winding. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-06 Thread jfreezn
- From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 7:20 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes What would cause a shorted winding? Do they "just happen" sometimes? On Jan 6, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> Can an electri

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-06 Thread Robert Rentfro
Hey Mr. Jim...was the Tim that was on earlier today related to you? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes Allan

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-06 Thread Jim Cathey
> What would cause a shorted winding? Do they "just happen" sometimes? Heat, usually. If the motor has a starting winding and the starting switch fails it can cook it quickly. And, as has been pointed out, if it's a capacitor motor (-run and/or -start) the capacitor(s) are certainly potential c

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
The motor is 120V, it has multiple leads but these are for achieving different speeds. Indeed it does have an external starting capacitor. Of course I forgot to grab it when I left. Presumably the shop would have a suitable capacitor lying around, but that would only verify that the motor is OK -

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
Well none of the electrical supply stores here will give me the time of day because I'm not in the electrical or HVAC trade. Guess it's internet time... Allan Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> What would cause a shorted winding? Do they "just happen" sometimes? > > Heat, usually. If t

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote: > Well none of the electrical supply stores here will give me the time > of day because I'm not in the electrical or HVAC trade. > > Guess it's internet time... www.hvac-talk.com FWIW, the **HATE** DIY folks, but you can probably search and piece together enough info to help

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
Grainger.com seems to have a lot of electrical motors... John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Allan Streib wrote: >> Well none of the electrical supply stores here will give me the time >> of day because I'm not in the electrical or HVAC trade. >> >> Guess it's internet time... > > www.hva

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 1/7/2008 1:10:56 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well none of the electrical supply stores here will give me the time of day because I'm not in the electrical or HVAC trade. Graingers and Johnstone are two wholesalers that will take your cash,

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
I was hopeful about Graingers, but their nearest outlet is 50 miles away. Went to their web site and found the motor but in the process of checking out I found out that they don't want to do consumer sales either. So I'd have to fake being a business, which would almost certainly work but