Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-30 Thread Loren Faeth
WIlliam Jefferson William Jefferson Clinton and the list goes on and on. At 09:27 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: >I have but two words: Senator Stevens. Mr. Long Term Republican. > >We won't even get into Scooter! > >On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wonko

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: > It's called moral equivalence (or relativism). That view of life > ignores moral imperatives and generally says, well if that guy does it > my guy doesn't do it as bad so therefor my guy is good. This morning I realized something about the press treatment of The Obomanation

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas
It's called moral equivalence (or relativism). That view of life ignores moral imperatives and generally says, well if that guy does it my guy doesn't do it as bad so therefor my guy is good. --R >> Wonko the Sane wrote: >> >>> I have but two words: Senator Stevens. Mr. Long Term Republi

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > oh boy, here we go 1: Every politician in Chicago is a crook, a bit of an oversimplification, but not by much. If Richard Daley and Emil Jones Jr are backing somebody, it removes all doubt. 2: The man hates fair elections, he broke into the Chicago political scene in

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh boy, here we go Wonko the Sane wrote: > How exactly would we be putting the Chicago Mob in the White House? Is this > from the same reliable source that says Obama is a Muslim? > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Wonko the Sane wrote: >>> I have bu

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
How exactly would we be putting the Chicago Mob in the White House? Is this from the same reliable source that says Obama is a Muslim? On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > I have but two words: Senator Stevens. Mr. Long Term Republica

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: > I have but two words: Senator Stevens. Mr. Long Term Republican. You support putting the Chicago Mob in the White House because you don't like Stevens? Too deep for me to follow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official li

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
I have but two words: Senator Stevens. Mr. Long Term Republican. We won't even get into Scooter! On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > Yep, Wonko thinks we need more crime in government. > Even by Chicago standards the guy plays dirty.

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: > You pretty much summed up why I am supporting Obama. Yep, Wonko thinks we need more crime in government. Even by Chicago standards the guy plays dirty. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://w

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Rich Thomas
I figured you for an Edwards guy, the Powerful Hairstyle usually grabs a lot of voters and sways them, when it is matched with Powerful Rhetoric. The Audacity of Taupe lacks the Powerful Hairstyle aspect so I am wondering about his staying power among the more informed voters. And we know that

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Loren Faeth
Cause Kaleb said he can give a good speech and doesn't make a good leader, you think he will be a good prez? There is HOPE! Read on: apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Wonko the insane Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y WooHoo! CHANGE!! At 08:49 PM 7/

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
You pretty much summed up why I am supporting Obama. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I guess there are lots of things that go into being a good leader, > remembering names is handy but not a must have, the ability to give a > good speech is pretty import

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
Is there an Obnoxious Party in Georgia? If Al Franken can run, you have a shot at getting on the ballot. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > could you imagine me running for office? > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgra

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I guess there are lots of things that go into being a good leader, remembering names is handy but not a must have, the ability to give a good speech is pretty important in order to get the message across and make people believe in your vision, there are other qualities that help but I think the

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again; the coming of (you fill in the blank)

2008-07-29 Thread Robert Bigham
to fetch some food but all they had >>was >>five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the >>frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the >>multitudes. >>And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I and just because somebody can give a good speech does not make him a good leader either Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Apparently Hitler had a photographic memory for peoples names. > Just cause someone can remember your name does not make him a good > leader, I reckon being a good judge of chara

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:06:46 +0300 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Huh? Have they outlawed write-in in New Mexico? No, but when your candidate has dropped out because of what's happened in other states ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Gary Hurst
could you imagine me running for office? On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We already have that -- it is called the Primary Election. > > I am guessing that you didn't even vote, and if you did, you didn't expend > any energy supporting the candidate of

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Fmiser
> > > It seems than at Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:52:58 +0930, Hendrik wrote: > > > > > > The worrying thing is the lack of talented leaders, on one > > > side you have a populist and on the other a puppet with > > > strings attached. > > Philip replied: > > I think there should be a "Choice D - none of

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
Huh? Have they outlawed write-in in New Mexico? On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:56:02 +0300 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > We already have that -- it is called the Primary Election. > > > > I am guessing tha

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:56:02 +0300 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We already have that -- it is called the Primary Election. > > I am guessing that you didn't even vote, and if you did, you didn't > expend any energy supporting the candidate of your choice. I didn't get to vote fo

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
We already have that -- it is called the Primary Election. I am guessing that you didn't even vote, and if you did, you didn't expend any energy supporting the candidate of your choice. If you can't find the candidate of your choice, get into the race yourself and tell us why you are the primo ch

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:52:58 +0930, Hendrik wrote: > The worrying thing is the lack of talented leaders, on one > side you have a populist and on the other a puppet with > strings attached. I think there should be a "Choice D - none of the above" in all elections. If that vote carri

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
The worrying thing is the lack of talented leaders, on one side you have a populist and on the other a puppet with strings attached. Neither is very inspiring but after GWB anything has to be better. However this lack of good leaders goes right across the planet, like that French playboy or the R

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
Correction ... *had* a HUGE love affair -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 22:15 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again The press has a HUGE love affair with McCain

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Donald Snook
Lt Don wrote: "I think that is what I liked most about Biden's appearances in Jefferson. He simply walked into the small coffee shop, shook hands and introduced himself (as if that was necessary), gave a small speech and took questions. No scripting, no handlers (other than his family), no BS."

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Gary Hurst
hey, it's hard when you are a meth freak On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim Cathey wrote: > > Heck, the big H was an excellent _leader_. Look at how many > > people he got to do what he wanted! Evil rotten bastard, to > > be sure, but man he sure could

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: > Heck, the big H was an excellent _leader_. Look at how many > people he got to do what he wanted! Evil rotten bastard, to > be sure, but man he sure could lead... I had a management professor who called him a great leader and a horrible manager. If he was more patient he mig

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Apparently Hitler had a photographic memory for peoples names. > Just cause someone can remember your name does not make him a good > leader, I reckon being a good judge of character is more important. Give it up, Henny. Wonko met one of our most skilled con artists and is

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Anyone can lead if you can find enough thugs, some money to pay em, pissweak/stupid leaders in other countries and economic circumstances that make desperate people believe in anything. Hendrik Jim Cathey wrote: >> Apparently Hitler had a photographic memory for peoples names. >> Just cause som

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> Apparently Hitler had a photographic memory for peoples names. > Just cause someone can remember your name does not make him a good > leader, I reckon being a good judge of character is more important. Heck, the big H was an excellent _leader_. Look at how many people he got to do what he wante

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-27 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Apparently Hitler had a photographic memory for peoples names. Just cause someone can remember your name does not make him a good leader, I reckon being a good judge of character is more important. Hendrik who has a lousy memory for.aheemI forgot...ahh well Wonko the Sane

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-27 Thread Wonko the Sane
There is a good bit of stagecraft whenever there is a Presidential campaign appearance. Well, normally (see below). When Obama came to Jefferson, it was my "duty" to sit on the stage right behind him, front row, because I am a county Dem party official. When I said I really didn't care to, an adva

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Good answer but not to the questions posed. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: > The press has a HUGE love affair with McCain because he chats them up on his > campaign bus > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Rich Thomas < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Why do you think the press did not r

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
The press has a HUGE love affair with McCain because he chats them up on his campaign bus On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do you think the press did not report aspects of his trip that would > not be promotional, e.g., that before his Berlin spe

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Why do you think the press did not report aspects of his trip that would not be promotional, e.g., that before his Berlin speech there was a rock concert, free beer/food, etc. that contributed *significantly* to drawing the huge crowd? And why is the mainstream press not reporting the John Edwa

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
Learning is not automatic - it depends on the intelligence and willingness to learn of the student. I wish the press had focussed more on what the world leaders discussed with Obama and their impressions of him. I thought he handled himself brilliantly and struck just the right balance, given the

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again

2008-07-27 Thread Scott Ritchey
Analyzing all this, I come to the following conclusions: 1. Obama met some troops at some places but not other troops at other places. But this is always the case. 2. CPT Porter reported what he initially believed to be true but some hearsay and some personal opinion were likely involved. 3. C