[MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Want to change out the coolant in our '03 Focus before winter. I've found some postings that say it's a simple drain/fill operation, others talk about extreme difficulty getting air purged and subsequent random overheating. Any Focus owners (Dan?) done this? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Yup. Pretty straightforward as far as I found. Drain the radiator from the bottom drain (plastic - ugh! flush with clear water several times and then refill with the proper Ford gold coolant. I never had a problem with air pockets or overheating. This has been done on both of my Focuses by

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Good to hear, thanks. Off to the garage BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford. Allan Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Yup. Pretty straightforward as far as I found. Drain the radiator from

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Glad to be of assistance. I used the Ford stuff because I had a couple of gallons left over from my former Crown Vic. Dan On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Good to hear, thanks. Off to the garage BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Well nothing is ever *easy* is it? I drained the system, filled with water to flush, and warmed up the engine. Once it had reached operating temp I turned it off and discovered that the thermostat gasket leaks under pressure. That would explain the slow coolant loss I've observed on this car in

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Peter Hertzing
Go with new. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Well nothing is ever *easy* is it? I drained the system, filled with water to flush, and warmed up the engine. Once it had reached operating temp I turned it off and discovered that

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water outlet/thermostat housing is prone to cracking/leaking on the Ford Zetec. So I'm betting that's my problem, for a $50 part I'm not going to risk just changing the gasket. Allan Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: Well nothing is ever

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
I change thermostats every other coolant change. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Go with new. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Well nothing is ever *easy* is it? I drained

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water outlet/thermostat housing is prone to cracking/leaking on the Ford Zetec. So I'm betting that's my problem, for a $50 part I'm not going to risk just changing the gasket. I ordered this

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
I can never keep the engines straight on these things. Both of mine have the 2.3 liter 4. Is that the Zetec, or is it the 2.0 liter? Dan On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Mine is a 2003 SE (wagon) which has the 2.0 Zetec DOHC. Allan Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: I can never keep the engines straight on these things. Both of mine have the 2.3 liter 4. Is that the Zetec, or is it the 2.0 liter? Dan On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Interesting - I went in and looked at the part for both my 2004 and 2005 (both 2.3l engine) and it looks identical but it's a different vendor and a heck of a lot more expensive. Mine are a 2004 ZTW wagon and a 2005 ZX5. Maybe they redesigned it if they were having problems? Dan On Aug 19,

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
According to wikipedia in 2004 Ford switched over to design based on the Mazda MZR engine for its I4 engines. These were given the name Duratec and were made with varying displacements including the 2.3. The Zetec line I think was never bigger than a 2.0l except the diesel Zetec TDCi went up to

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
One other thing I noticed... when you drain the system from the radiator petcock, you get about 1 gallon out; the cooling system capacity is 6 quarts, so there's still 2 quarts left in there somewhere. Meaning if you want to do a really complete change of coolant, you'll need to do a few

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
That's what I did. I usually drain as completely as possible, fill with tap water, drive for a short while with the heater on, cool, drain and refill again, drive, cool and drain. Sort of a lather, rinse, repeat thing. I'll also refill with straight AF and check the concentration, since I

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: I'll also refill with straight AF and check the concentration, since I know there will be a fair amount of water left in the system. Yeah that is my approach as well. Once I feel that there is more or less straight water left in the system, I'll add half