Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-20 Thread Allan Streib
Max writes: > Yabut, google the title, select the WSJ link, and voila... you are > behind the wall. When WSJ sees the referrer header is from Google it lets you in. If you have a browser plugin that lets you see/tweak referrers you could probably fool it. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD __

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-19 Thread Craig
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:01:43 -0500 Max wrote: > Rich Thomas wrote: > > >That is exactly the same thing I posted, does not get you behind the > >paywall. > > > > Yabut, google the title, select the WSJ link, and voila... you are > behind the wall. That's exactly what I did, and I was not behi

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-19 Thread Max
Rich Thomas wrote: >That is exactly the same thing I posted, does not get you behind the >paywall. > Yabut, google the title, select the WSJ link, and voila... you are behind the wall. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices Again [was: Re: OT Micro$oft Bah Humbug]

2011-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Max wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Either way, it's hard to justify a 34mpg E300D over a 27mpg E320. Do you get 34 mpg in town or on the highway? I seem to be stuck at about 26 in town. I think those are the EPA hwy ratings for a 170hp W210 diesel and a 220hp W210 V6. With premium gas, the d

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices Again [was: Re: OT Micro$oft Bah Humbug]

2011-11-19 Thread Max
Mitch Haley wrote: > >Either way, it's hard to justify a 34mpg E300D over a 27mpg E320. > Do you get 34 mpg in town or on the highway? I seem to be stuck at about 26 in town. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http:/

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-19 Thread Craig
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:35:26 -0500 Rich Thomas wrote: > That is exactly the same thing I posted, does not get you behind the > paywall. Yup. And I re-searched for the article's title in Google and got exactly the same thing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-19 Thread Rich Thomas
That is exactly the same thing I posted, does not get you behind the paywall. --R On 11/19/11 8:31 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: A very interesting article, I tried to get it online but it is behind the paywall http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203611404577041941864856270.htm

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices Again

2011-11-19 Thread Allan Streib
Craig writes: >> Diesel forever, but today I say $3.04 gas and $4.04 Diesel That >> really burns me! Fortunately I am driving the gasser Dogde. > > Gasoline here is 2.989 and diesel is 4.039. Gasoline here $3.35 for regular. Diesel anywhere from $4.05 to $4.25. More than before I am seeing sig

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices Again [was: Re: OT Micro$oft Bah Humbug]

2011-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:03:25 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Diesel forever, but today I say $3.04 gas and $4.04 Diesel That really burns me! Fortunately I am driving the gasser Dogde. Gasoline here is 2.989 and diesel is 4.039. If you move up here, it'll be 3.2

[MBZ] Petrol Prices Again [was: Re: OT Micro$oft Bah Humbug]

2011-11-19 Thread Craig
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:03:25 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Diesel forever, but today I say $3.04 gas and $4.04 Diesel That > really burns me! Fortunately I am driving the gasser Dogde. Gasoline here is 2.989 and diesel is 4.039. Craig __

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-19 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: > A very interesting article, I tried to get it online but > it is behind the paywall > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203611404577041941864856270.html >  Maybe someone has an online subscription. A trick richarde taught us years ago is to take the title, put it in google

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-18 Thread OK Don
Which is the point that all the "domestic oil" advocates totally miss - these are multi-national companies and it's a world market. It doesn't matter if we can punp all the crude we need from under US soil - it'll wind up on the global market, and the price is determined by the global market. "US o

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-18 Thread Randy Bennell
On 17/11/2011 10:58 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: I just realized, you lot are using the correct word for petrol. OMG what's next? Proper spelling of the Queens English? Or is the reason behind this because the big O is down over and bringing a load of grunts with him? Hendrik who didn't get to mee

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-17 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I just realized, you lot are using the correct word for petrol. OMG what's next? Proper spelling of the Queens English? Or is the reason behind this because the big O is down over and bringing a load of grunts with him? Hendrik who didn't get to meet the prez Rich Thomas wrote: I think a lot (

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-17 Thread Rich Thomas
There was an excellent article in the WSJ today about a pipeline between OK and TX coast, and that its flow is being reversed to take oil to the coast from OK where there is a large supply at a lower cost than world average. This announcement has driven up crude prices. The article also menti

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > That "fuel supplies get tighter in the heating season" is the line > they feed us, but I doubt that fuel oil usage has increased

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-17 Thread Rich Thomas
I think a lot (if not most) of the diesel refined here in the USA is shipped off to Yurp as they have limited refining capacity and high demand due to more diesel vehicles. Maybe a better deal for the refiners? --R On 11/16/11 10:24 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Craig writes: I was planning on

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-17 Thread G Mann
Fair point raised. The diesel sold today is the fuel bought on a futures speculation 6 months to a year ago based on the gamble that the investor was guessing correctly on price of crude, war, Mid East stability, public nervousness about terrorism, tanker availability, refinery space and timing, a

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Max
Craig wrote: >On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:33:59 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> Diesel foreverexcept when it is $4 and guzoline is $3. That is >> insanity. > >I was planning on writing an email about this tonight. > >Over the last few months, our gasoline prices have inched d

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > That "fuel supplies get tighter in the heating season" is the line > they feed us, but I doubt that fuel oil usage has increased over the > past 40 years. Used to be a lot of oil heat. Now it is virtually > gone, except in the East where the ground is t

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
Depends on the time frame you want to reference. Recent years, that may be true. Pre 2007, Maybe not. Pre-1984, nope. Doesn't diesel always cost more during the fall and winter? That "fuel supplies get tighter in the heating season" is the line they feed us, but I doubt that fuel oil us

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Brian Toscano
Doesn't diesel always cost more during the fall and winter? On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > YES! > > > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:33:59 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Diesel foreverexcept when it is $4 and guzoline is $3.

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Craig writes: > I was planning on writing an email about this tonight. > > Over the last few months, our gasoline prices have inched downward and > our diesel prices have inched upward. > > Is that so consumers will feel good about "cheap" gasoline, but not see > the increased diesel prices becau

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
YES! On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:33:59 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Diesel foreverexcept when it is $4 and guzoline is $3. That is insanity. I was planning on writing an email about this tonight. Over the last few months, our gasoline prices have inched downward and our

[MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Craig
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:33:59 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Diesel foreverexcept when it is $4 and guzoline is $3. That is > insanity. I was planning on writing an email about this tonight. Over the last few months, our gasoline prices have inched downward and our diesel p