Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping > > I filled up at sams today for $4.75 for diesel > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 12:53 PM, mitc

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Gas turbine powered generation systems are usually a ground power version of a large passenger jet engine. The most common use is for several of the systems to be located around a nuke plant, or a large coal plant [both of those systems have long lead times to bring them on line and produce

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Depends on the refrigerant I would think. The temperature at which it refuses to go back into liquid form at pressures the compressor can generate. -Curt On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 06:35:56 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: What is the outside temp at which AC stops working? At

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Hot here, too. 80F this afternoon, at least until the monsoon rains come later and it drops down into the 60s. Weird thing in Flagstaff: even when it’s hot outside, the rain is freezing cold. I’m thinking this is an issue related to altitude? -D > On Jul 15, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Bob Rentfro via

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
What is the outside temp at which AC stops working? At 116, I'd almost think you'd need a water spray on your condensor, to get some evaporative effect to help remove the heat. On Fri, Jul 15, 2022, at 6:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > Diesel in AZ is still $5.86/gallon. Gasoline is

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Diesel in AZ is still $5.86/gallon. Gasoline is inching down slowly ($4.68/gallon I think). So tired of hot. I have to constantly remind myself this is all that stands between 1.7 million people living here and 3.0 million people living here. I saw part of an interview with Charles Barkley,

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Apparently local Costco has reg for 3.90 today. I’ll probably go fill up the wagon on Sunday --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jul 15, 2022, at 1:53 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-07-15 13:46, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Around here diesel is down $0.30 in the last month.

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping > > I filled up at sams today for $4.75 for diesel > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 12:53

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I could go for $1.89 9/10 a gallon and some mean tweets right about now Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 15, 2022 3:51 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping I filled

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I filled up at sams today for $4.75 for diesel Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2022, at 12:53 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-07-15 13:46, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Around here diesel is down $0.30 in the last month. Gas has dropped >> less, maybe $0.15-0.20 > >

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Diesel is down about $0.10 here from the $6.09 peak, gas has come down a lot more and never got that high. On Fri, Jul 15, 2022, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Around here diesel is down $0.30 in the last month. Gas has dropped > less, maybe $0.15-0.20 > > I understand that a bunch of

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Yes, as Floyd points out, gas turbines are the biodiesels of the rotary powerplant world and will burn pretty much anything you can put into them. That’s not without issue, however, fuel systems can be tweaked to handle things most of the time. -D > On Jul 15, 2022, at 10:48 AM, Floyd Thursby

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-07-15 13:46, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Around here diesel is down $0.30 in the last month. Gas has dropped less, maybe $0.15-0.20 Cheapest I saw today was 4.409 regular, 5.109 premium, 5.309 diesel. Gasbuddy just told me Michigan's cheapest gas is 3.999, probably Telegraph Road

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Basically if it will burn and flow through a pipe it can be burned in a turbine.  Might not be optimal, and might need to be tweaked a bit, but it should work. I recall fueling a King Air once with avgas as for some reason we didn't have any JetA.  The pilot told me it was OK for some limited

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Around here diesel is down $0.30 in the last month. Gas has dropped less, maybe $0.15-0.20 I understand that a bunch of refined product is going from the US to Europe which makes sense, they're trying to ween off Russian supply. This will continue and will escalate. I hear a lot of people

Re: [MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Don't they use the fuel to boil water, turning the turbines with steam? Change the burners and plumbing, and you're set to go. On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:29 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Europe is in a natural gas supply crisis, and have started running gas >

[MBZ] Possible reason diesel prices are not dropping

2022-07-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Europe is in a natural gas supply crisis, and have started running gas turbine generating stations on kerosene, increasing demand for this refined product. Anyone else heard this? I know that turbine engines can theoretically run on pretty much any flammable liquid or gas, but it seems to me