Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-22 Thread WILTON
ey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs Fmiser wrote: Questions: * Is the glow _cycle_ only 4 seconds - or just the dash light. One way is with a meter, but this can be determined audibly

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: Questions: * Is the glow _cycle_ only 4 seconds - or just the dash light. One way is with a meter, but this can be determined audibly by listening for the relay. Both turning on and off. That's my first guess too. One or more bad plugs, glow light won't stay on,

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Fmiser
> Dan Penoff wrote: > He is experiencing a similar glow plug issue, where the key is > turned and light comes on for 4 seconds and goes out. > He is looking for a quick fix/diagnosis, as he doesn't have > his multimeter handy... So he wants us to diagnose his car's _electrical_ problem, from far

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Dieselhead
If it has an OVP relay, that can cause strange things in the glow system (and other places) if it goes bad. It is nice to have a stable of these cars, so you can swap thinks like glow relays, Klima and OVP relays to confirm diagnosis or diagnose if you are too lazy to do the real diagnosis.

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Dieselhead
Here is the one for 81-87 with the newer relay and pencil types. It is from the 124 manual, but they are all the same from the relay to the plugs. Wiring on a 617 is the same as a 602. http://w124-zone.com/downloads/MB%20CD/W124/w124CD1/Program/Engine/602_603/15-4000.pdf Steve has been tryi

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond writes: > I'd be inclined to think about plugs. 2 years doesn't mean much > without knowing how many starts in that time and the total mileage. > Many short runs will kill plugs faster than few long runs. I agree, do a quick resistance check on the plugs, this should take all of a f

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Dieselhead
Uh, I have assumed this is a car with pencil type plugs. Are they? or are they Loop glow plugs? Here is the troubleshooting proceedure for the loop type plugs (13/16 wrench sito remove the plug and bus bars with insulators: http://www.mercedes.thatchermathias.com/w123CD2/Program/Engine/615/15

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Dieselhead
Isn't short glow an indication? If I'd ever RTFM, I should know, but being a man, (refer to Red Green) I don't often read the manual unless I am really stumped. I just check the plugs and never bothered to memorize the indications. A short light indicates #1 is good and one other is bad, I b

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Robert Koziak
-Original Message- From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 4:00 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs I'd be inclined to think about plugs. 2 years doesn't mean much without knowing how many starts in that time and the total mileage. Many short runs

Re: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Curt Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:18:52 -0500 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs Message-ID: <52f2e481-2d7d-4192-865c-5debd7218...@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Steve has been trying to post about a glow plug problem he's exper

[MBZ] Steve and Glow Plugs

2011-12-21 Thread Dan Penoff
Steve has been trying to post about a glow plug problem he's experiencing but the SP*M filter keeps killing his messages, so I am paraphrasing for him: He is experiencing a similar glow plug issue, where the key is turned and light comes on for 4 seconds and goes out. Repeated attempts get the