Kaleb,
can you contact the owner of the vehicle that had it before the guy you bought
it from. He may able to add some information about the car and it's recent
history.
Mike
On May 02, 2011, at 10:49 AM, David Bruckmann
wrote:
It's not the oil. He was running Delvac and had the proble
It's not the oil. He was running Delvac and had the problem then, before the
dealer changed the oil.
Like any other MB, oil pressure should peg essentially as soon as you move off
the line. MINIMUM is that it peg at 3000rpm, which on that car should be around
50mph. Oil circuit description and
Could there be blockage that's keeping the oil from the area where it
normally gets soot? Your repeated comments about the non-black oil
makes me wonder if this problem isn't a normal oil pressure issue
Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL
'87 300SDL (312,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)
On Sun, 01 May 2011 14:38:17 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
wrote:
> I know that on flat ground in 4th going about 60 mpg
With that kind of fuel mileage, you ought to sell it quick! :-)
> it will be just right off being pegged. Its not against the peg but
> its almost there. It does seem to be l
I drove the car a little bit yesterday and was able to get it to
the point that at hot idle the pressure drops down to about half
way between the bottom and the 1st mark. It pegs when revved up
but without a tach Im not sure what rpm its running. I know that
on flat ground in 4th going about
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:31:43 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
wrote:
> wasnt there something about the big bolt where the distributor
> would mount if it was a gas car having something to do with the
> oil pump? I seem to recall something about this from years ago.
The Service Manual for engines 615
No orings on the bolt. There is a copper or alum seal ring under the
head of the bolt.
Your basic description is accurate. The cartridge goes in the can
and the nylon doodad with the mesh in it goes on top. A bit of a
devil to get it all back into the car as there is not a whole lot of
room
wasnt there something about the big bolt where the distributor
would mount if it was a gas car having something to do with the
oil pump? I seem to recall something about this from years ago.
On 4/28/2011 10:08 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
MY recollection is that the OM615 and early 617 have a smaller
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:07:26 -0500 Randy Bennell
wrote:
> Your basic description is accurate. The cartridge goes in the can and
> the nylon doodad with the mesh in it goes on top. A bit of a devil to
> get it all back into the car as there is not a whole lot of room. I
> have found it helps a l
Your basic description is accurate. The cartridge goes in the can and
the nylon doodad with the mesh in it goes on top. A bit of a devil to
get it all back into the car as there is not a whole lot of room. I have
found it helps a lot if I put the car up on ramps before hand so that I
can get fa
MY recollection is that the OM615 and early 617 have a smaller can
than the OM621. It is in essence, a fram C3 filter size. I never
changed oil on a 615, and Randy should be able to confirm this. I
think it is the same as the 621, where the oil filter cartridge is
only the bypass filter. Th
I put C rated 0w-40 M1 in my old SDL for winter use. It was
terrible. Oil consumption went way up. Noise went way up.My
OM603 was a happy camper with I replaced enough of the 0 stuff with
15w-50 M1.After I got the oil changed back to the 15w-50 it was
happy agian. I have used the C
I don't think it does - completely different filter set-up. Isn't there a
thermostatically controlled valve for the oil cooler? If it's stuck closed,
that oil could get real hot = thin.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Maybe, I was trying to remember if those have the o
Maybe, I was trying to remember if those have the o ring deal like the later
cars
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On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
>
>> I have never heard of bearings wearing out on one of those,
>> usually the rings would wear out first and it would just loose
>> compressi
> I have never heard of bearings wearing out on one of those,
> usually the rings would wear out first and it would just loose
> compression. The usual cause of bearing problems is it leaks oil
> and they let it run out and it causes problems, but then you get
> noise. This car has no noise at all
nd it was aligned
last week at the dealer.
It was a steal for the price.
D.
On 2011-04-28, at 10:45, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:59:03 -0500
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frame bushings. And
it was aligned last week at the dealer.
It was a steal for the price.
D.
On 2011-04-28, at 10:45, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:59:03 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin"
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stranded i
Well that's better, but when I tried 0w40 M1 in my OM617 the hot idle
pressure did drop a bit. It was still within spec, but noticeably lower
than with the 20w50.
Allan
Jaime Kopchinski writes:
> Dealers run 0w40 or 5w40 in the new cars.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Allan S
any chance the vehicle was run with BioDiesel? i've seen that stuff
really thin out some less robust oils because of its solvency, even
though it doesn't discolor the oil as much because there's no
particulate matter...
i think i'd change the oil to make sure it's got the proper stuff
in
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Would it be the rod bearings or main bearings that would cause low
oil pressure?
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r the price.
D.
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> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:59:03 -0500
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My 76 115 300D oil pressure drops down pretty low at idle when the car
is hot too. When cold it pegs and when at speeds above idle it is fine.
I run 15-40 Rotella oil.
I have put about 10K miles on it and things have not changed at all to
my recollection.
It does become black immediately a
Yes!
But the #1 rod will be the indicator. When bearings on an iron OM
fail, #1 rod is the first/worst.
Would it be the rod bearings or main bearings that would cause low
oil pressure?
On 4/27/2011 9:44 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
I'd guess the dealer used 0-20 or something like that. nobody at
Would it be the rod bearings or main bearings that would cause low
oil pressure?
On 4/27/2011 9:44 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
I'd guess the dealer used 0-20 or something like that. nobody
at a stealership lasts long enough to know about a 124, much
less a 115. By now, even a 210 is unknown by stea
I'd guess the dealer used 0-20 or something like that. nobody at a
stealership lasts long enough to know about a 124, much less a 115.
By now, even a 210 is unknown by stealer service.
Kaleb, remove the bottom oil pan, remove the oil pump. Go to FLAPS
and get plastiguage. Pull the #1 rod c
I thought of that and maybe it is buy the oil level is not high like you would
think if it was getting fuel in the oil
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On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:46 PM, OK Don wrote:
> I thought he said the delaer changed the oil to a heavier grade in hopes of
> fixing it.
> Could it be Diesel
Dealers run 0w40 or 5w40 in the new cars.
Jaime
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> I don't know what the new diesels call for but the gassers are probably
> all 5w20 or something like that. If that's what they had on hand and
> used, it would be way too thin for that old d
I thought he said the delaer changed the oil to a heavier grade in hopes of
fixing it.
Could it be Diesel in the oil? I too have never seen one that wasn't totally
black.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> I don't know what the new diesels call for but the gassers are probabl
I don't know what the new diesels call for but the gassers are probably
all 5w20 or something like that. If that's what they had on hand and
used, it would be way too thin for that old diesel.
"Kaleb C. Striplin" writes:
> yea thats exactly what I am going to do. I have no idea what they
> use
yea thats exactly what I am going to do. I have no idea what they
used when they changed the oil.
On 4/27/2011 6:26 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
What did the dealer use when they changed the oil?
If it got one bar hot idle pressure, I would have aimed it for
Montreal and hit the throttle.
If it
The oil pump on those is easily accessible, and removable if my memory
serves, once lower pan has been dropped, but it does get easier when
the upper pan is removed.
Walt
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Well I am now the proud owner of the vehicle in question. I real
What did the dealer use when they changed the oil?
If it got one bar hot idle pressure, I would have aimed it for Montreal and hit
the throttle.
If it pegs the gauge when driving, drive it until it's good and hot and see what
idle pressure is. If it's less than 10psi, change the oil for 15w40
Well I am now the proud owner of the vehicle in question. I
really dont know what to think about it yet. Poor guy has put a
ton of money in this thing fixing it up. He said at first they
thought it was something with the oil pump, but they took it
someplace else in OKC and the cut open the o
OK Don writes:
> His experience doesn't sound like the same stealer I deal with in OKC
> (there's only one). Hope they don't double the retail price of the parts on
> hom, like they do to me.
That's standard for any shop. Sounds like they're being reasonable on
the labor anyway.
Allan
--
1983
I'm only 23 miles South of the dealer in Norman. He can park it in my
driveway also - not as much room as Kelb has, but just enough for one more
car in a pinch.
His experience doesn't sound like the same stealer I deal with in OKC
(there's only one). Hope they don't double the retail price of the p
David Bruckmann writes:
> The techs said the engine ran great, no signs of rod knock or bearing
> problems.
Well that's good. I was trying to reply last night, but could not
because Comcast apparently thought my email was a "spam bomb." My fear
was that the main bearings were shot, which has a
It hasn't been pulled yet, I'm still in the "must gather parts!" phase.
I wish I could help, but I'd need to pull the engine back out of the
truck to remove it, and that would have to wait till the weekend.
Sorry for not being able to help out this time round. :(
Walt
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:
Walt Zarnoch wrote:
If it's an NA 617.91x, you need to change #1 main bearing cap,
clearance the block for the chain, drill and tap the holes for the
seal retainer on the block, change to a different upper oil pan, get
the double-sprocket, and possibly the crank.
It's doable, just tedious to do.
If it's an NA 617.91x, you need to change #1 main bearing cap,
clearance the block for the chain, drill and tap the holes for the
seal retainer on the block, change to a different upper oil pan, get
the double-sprocket, and possibly the crank.
It's doable, just tedious to do. I'm in the process of
What happens if you put a 617.95x pump in it?
Klebbie might have one of those.
Mitch.
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> I can probab
I can probably go get it and park it here. I have room
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On Apr 25, 2011, at 10:20 PM, David Bruckmann
wrote:
> Yes and no. He went to the (apparently great) dealer in OK City. They had
> three techs spend the afternoon doing diagnostics etc and two things happened:
>
> 1)
Yes and no. He went to the (apparently great) dealer in OK City. They had three
techs spend the afternoon doing diagnostics etc and two things happened:
1) They only charged him ONE hour labour (this, I think, is VERY generous of
them and commendable), plus $47 for an oil change (changed to thic
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