[MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread John Robbins
All, Last night I was going to use the 500SE to tow my brother's Sebring from behind the house. While we were finding a place to hook the tow strap to the Sebring, the SE was idling and suddenly started BILLOWING a HUGE cloud of smoke. By huge I mean filling my entire back yard in 20

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread John Robbins
One other thing... I have the instrument cluster out of the car... John Robbins wrote: All, Last night I was going to use the 500SE to tow my brother's Sebring from behind the house. While we were finding a place to hook the tow strap to the Sebring, the SE was idling and suddenly started

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
John Robbins wrote: All, Last night I was going to use the 500SE to tow my brother's Sebring from behind the house. While we were finding a place to hook the tow strap to the Sebring, the SE was idling and suddenly started BILLOWING a HUGE cloud of smoke. By huge I mean filling my entire

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread R A Bennell
for simple things first! Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem All, Last night I was going

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread John Robbins
R A Bennell wrote: Could it have siphoned AT fluid into the intake via a vaccuum hose or something like that? I had an issue with my old Suburban once that oiled up the air filter. It was because the PCV valve was not inserted into the valve cover. Not quite the same but sort of an odd thing

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
John, Also, check to see if the brake booster is filled with fluid. The downhill angle and white smoke point towards that as a potential cause. Brake fluid will smoke like ATF. Voluminous smoke and a smell that is unique when burned. Mathieu -mired in a 230sl all week On Jan 15, 2009,

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread John Robbins
Mathieu J. Cama wrote: Also, check to see if the brake booster is filled with fluid. The downhill angle and white smoke point towards that as a potential cause. Brake fluid will smoke like ATF. Voluminous smoke and a smell that is unique when burned. Good idea! Kaleb says the rear brake line

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
John, et al, Very common for the tail seal on the brake master to fail and allow brake fluid to get sucked into the booster. The booster is always under vacuum (when motor is running) and thus a weak tail seal will easily pass fluid. Eventually the brake fluid eats out the diaphragm in the

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Frederick
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem All, Last night I was going to use the 500SE to tow my brother's Sebring from behind the house. While we were finding

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
He does have a brake problem, the line running to the back leaks and only the rear chamber (for the front brakes) is full. Related? Mathieu J. Cama wrote: John, Also, check to see if the brake booster is filled with fluid. The downhill angle and white smoke point towards that as a potential

Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem

2009-01-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange 500SE Smoke Problem He does have a brake problem, the line running to the back leaks and only the rear chamber (for the front brakes) is full. Related? Mathieu J. Cama wrote: John