Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is a sustainable cottage industry, unsupported by federal crop subsidies, although I could report it as a business loss On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:37 AM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew should make some with Carolina Reaper peppers. The jelly would tame >

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-20 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Andrew should make some with Carolina Reaper peppers. The jelly would tame the Reapers somewhat. A man who ate some straight wound up in the hospital. https://store.puckerbuttpeppercompany.com/collections/carolina-reaper-worlds-hottest-pepper Gerry ...

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-20 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Just rewired the left rear door on my 87 also. The window wiring was shorting out and blowing the fuse when moving the window up. The 85 is hanging in there. I wonder why it always seems to be the left rear? I would think the drivers door would be most common. On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 11:18 AM Pe

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I dunno. Do they make wine out of pokeweed berries? LOL On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:20 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew, > > The package arrived today, SWMBO declares your organic hand-made jalepeno > jelly to be delicious. I think we'll serve it with a nice

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Andrew, The package arrived today, SWMBO declares your organic hand-made jalepeno jelly to be delicious. I think we'll serve it with a nice soft cheese and some premium water crackers at the next GOP fundraiser that we host. What kind of wine would you suggest? (ducking) - Max Charl

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Thanks! I hadn't thought of that. On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 9:37 PM Jim Cathey wrote: > resist the temptation to ever lower that window again until this has been >> fixed. > > > Pull the rear switch. > > -- Jim > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list arc

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > resist the temptation to ever lower that window again until this has been > fixed. Pull the rear switch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://m

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Indeed. Gotta order a new grommet first and resist the temptation to ever lower that window again until this has been fixed. On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 2:18 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You have a broken wire in the door post, this is quite common. > > When a hu

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
You have a broken wire in the door post, this is quite common. When a hurricane isn't pending, you need to find the broken wire using a VOM and splice in new wire through where it bends. Might be a good idea to splice in new wire for all of them, if one is broken more are soon to follow. __

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I've got the same problem with my left rear door on The White Whale. I bought some fine-stand silicone insulated wire, that I'll slice into the harness and replace all those wires. The wire I bought is supposed to be very flexible and so should last the remainder of the car's life. -- Max Dil

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yay! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On September 15, 2018 1:50:11 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >OK. I removed the door panel and saw nothing amiss. Bad news - the PW >motor is inaccessible, as are the wires that lead to it. So I activated >the >door switch whi

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
OK. I removed the door panel and saw nothing amiss. Bad news - the PW motor is inaccessible, as are the wires that lead to it. So I activated the door switch while moving the door grommet until I finally got the window to close. YES! Then I tested the door switch again and lowered the window a

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have a spare console switch if that's what you need. On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 12:49 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Not to change the thread, but while we are all talking about windows. Does > anyone have a spare left front window switch that will fit a 82 300TD? I > need one. The top just ex

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Not to change the thread, but while we are all talking about windows. Does anyone have a spare left front window switch that will fit a 82 300TD? I need one. The top just exploded off the switch and to many parts were lost to reconstruct it. Thanks in advance. Now we return to regular programming.

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-15 Thread MG via Mercedes
I go with Randy. Long wires from battery to the motor wires. Your idea of switching wires at the motor connection in the door would also work and at the same time show you that the switch is bad. Could also do that by just pulling the switch and connecting the wires from the battery to the mo

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Switches, switches, switches. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wish it were intermittent now, it's been dead for a week, so not much hope. It's easy to remove the door panel on a 123. I will do this tomorrow morning and report back what I see. On Sep 14, 2018 7:32 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote: > > > > Buggered wrote: > > > > > > > > ... push up the gla

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > > Buggered wrote: > > > > > > ... push up the glass by hand, you’ll see if the slide is > > > broken.Jam a wedge in the glass at the bottom of the frame > > > to keep it raised until you can fix it. > > Randy wrote: > > > > How about Andrew's statement that there is no sound of the > > motor

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/09/2018 2:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Well good chance to check power and motor too --R Yes, and don't just check with a meter. Use one of the testers with a light bulb in it. Sometimes one will get enough voltage to make the meter show it but not enough to power anythin

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Hmmm you might be correct. It’s been awhile since I’ve done one. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:36:29 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel STR

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:36:29 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel STRAIGHT > UP after removing the various bits so you don’t break the little tabs) > and push up the glass by hand, you’ll see if the slide is broken. Isn't the

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm betting/hoping that the motor is OK but there is a break in the wiring between the rear door and front console. If the motor is bad then that is at least relatively simple to replace. On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:57 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well good c

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Well good chance to check power and motor too --R Sent from iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 14/09/2018 2:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >> Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel STRAIGHT UP >> after removin

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/09/2018 2:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel STRAIGHT UP after removing the various bits so you don’t break the little tabs) and push up the glass by hand, you’ll see if the slide is broken. Jam a wedge in the glass a

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
l via Mercedes >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:09 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel >> Subject: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch >> >> Yet another another pepper jelly challenge. >> >> First to solve it gets a free

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No sound whatsoever as the switch engages in the UP position. This is purely an electrical issue. On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:20 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 14/09/2018 2:12 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: > > My vote goes to the plastic part in the re

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/09/2018 2:12 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: My vote goes to the plastic part in the regulator that degrades with age. It is a squarish shaped piece of white nylon (?) that slides in a channel. IME that part is the weak point in the regulator on W123 power windows. It seems to me

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
gt; Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:09 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Subject: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch > > Yet another another pepper jelly challenge. > > First to solve it gets a free jar of my pepper

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
cause this symptom. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch Yet

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I doubt the switches are the problem - I swapped three of them and cleaned the terminals in each case. In any event, each master switch operates the front left window but not the left rear. The windows on the R side of the car operate normally with the passenger side console switch. On Fri, Sep

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Dirty switches? Did you cycle both switches? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I forgot to mention - that was an early attempt that failed. The grommet is > intact. > > I think for starters I will switch the

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I forgot to mention - that was an early attempt that failed. The grommet is intact. I think for starters I will switch the wires attached to the PW motor and hopefully that will raise the window again. if not, then I may have a bad motor... Could it be a regulator issue?? On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 a

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Try holding the switch in the "up" position while opening and closing the door. That will flex the wires in the accordion joint, which may be broken. You can also open the door and squeeze the accordion joint while holding the switch in the up position. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, S

[MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yet another another pepper jelly challenge. First to solve it gets a free jar of my pepper jelly shipped free to your location in the coterminous 48 states. I can't get the rear driver side power window to lift on my 1983 300td. It is stuck in the half open position. I swapped out several master