Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-22 Thread Jim Cathey
> Do NOT try to re-tap the threads. Get a junker assembly. I can't recall ever seeing the sunroof motor gone in the U-Pull yard. I don't think they fail often so nobody ever takes them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list spons

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-22 Thread Curt Raymond
. With the exception of working for my Dad this is the only boss I've ever had that I don't consider dumber than a potato... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:15:44 -0700 From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: "'Mercedes Di

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-22 Thread Robert Rentfro
Curt told us: "He thought my boss should know about that. My boss told him that if he didn't want to be called that he should get smarter..." Good boss. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ F

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-22 Thread Marshall Booth
Zoltan Finks wrote: > Good. I forgot about the junk yard option. Or perhaps I could re-tap > the threads. > > I need to do something, as now the wife wants to get rid of the car > because the sunroof is broken! (and because it only got 32 mpg on > mixed driving) Do NOT try to re-tap the threads.

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-22 Thread Curt Raymond
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 YE! Just activated my manual sunfroof!! You guys didn't tell me this was an option. Opened the sunr

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-22 Thread Curt Raymond
e the paint. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:57:51 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay, so is the removal of t

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-21 Thread Zoltan Finks
Good. I forgot about the junk yard option. Or perhaps I could re-tap the threads. I need to do something, as now the wife wants to get rid of the car because the sunroof is broken! (and because it only got 32 mpg on mixed driving) Brian 87 190D (in peril) On 9/21/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-21 Thread Jim Cathey
> I'm thinking that without that nut being in place, there is no tension > on the cable? And thus the motor just spins. Yup. But you can get a new sunroof motor assembly at the junkyard for not much moola. Now that you've got access to the guts of the roof you can fix the original problem, whate

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-21 Thread Zoltan Finks
Did you get my finder's fee check in the mail for that car? Brian On 9/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glad I could help. > > Zoltan Finks wrote: > > YE! Just activated my manual sunfroof!! > > > > You guys didn't tell me this was an option. > > > > Opened the sunroof by

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Glad I could help. Zoltan Finks wrote: > YE! Just activated my manual sunfroof!! > > You guys didn't tell me this was an option. > > Opened the sunroof by hand about 3/4 of the way. Pulled down the > healiner in front. First tried to pull it forward and out, but > wouldn't go. So pushed it b

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-21 Thread Zoltan Finks
YE! Just activated my manual sunfroof!! You guys didn't tell me this was an option. Opened the sunroof by hand about 3/4 of the way. Pulled down the healiner in front. First tried to pull it forward and out, but wouldn't go. So pushed it back. Then pulled the roof shut. Then after trying to

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-21 Thread Zoltan Finks
And now I know why the adjustment nut will not re-tighten. I managed to strip it by attempting to use it to close the roof. Thanks user's manual for being unclear. I'm thinking that without that nut being in place, there is no tension on the cable? And thus the motor just spins. Brian _

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-21 Thread Zoltan Finks
Okay, so is the removal of the headliner simply to gain access to something to grab ahold of and pull? If so, I might consider using a suction cup (cheap dent puller dealy) and trying to pull from the outside. Brian On 9/19/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My 240D played that game

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-19 Thread pm7088
-- Original message -- From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Any thoughts regarding why that silly hex nut just spins and won't tighten? > > And any thoughts on how in the meantime I can get the roof to seal up? > On my 300SDL, I got the sunroof somewhet clos

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-19 Thread Curt Raymond
cable with the other and force it closed. Moving the bar should force the rear of the sunroof up. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:05:52 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PR

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-19 Thread Jim Cathey
> Any thoughts regarding why that silly hex nut just spins and won't > tighten? No, I've never had to take apart that end. You have to hold the flatted shaft while you tighten it, but somehow I doubt that's your problem. > And any thoughts on how in the meantime I can get the roof to seal up?

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Zoltan Finks
Any thoughts regarding why that silly hex nut just spins and won't tighten? And any thoughts on how in the meantime I can get the roof to seal up? Is it simply cable tension that snugs the roof up in place and holds it there? Brian On 9/18/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, on

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> Also, on your site, you mentioned some sort of plastic cap onto which > the factory tool goes? That was not present. The plastic hex cap, often missing, locks the hex nut in position on the flatted shaft. The tire iron turns the entire mess, but it only works so long as it hasn't gotten stiff.

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Zoltan Finks
I have read most of the info in those two links you posted. Answered some questions. We have noticed before this failure that there were a few streaks being left on the headliner from opening and closing the roof. And the stuff feels gummy. Sounds like all needs a cleaning. I wonder if someone ha

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> So just to try to see how things work, I turned counterclockwise, and > the nut began to unthread from its center shaft. Wonder if the factory > tool was made to turn this center shaft (which has a couple of flats > and the rest is round) instead of the nut? (factory tool is missing). It is. Th

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Peter Frederick
last swipe) and the cable is clean stand in the car with your sunroof >> paste, get a good glob on your hand and glob it on the cable as you >> feed it back into the tube. >> >> As a last step you can use an acid brush to paint the channels the >> sunroof rid

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Zoltan Finks
> As a last step you can use an acid brush to paint the channels the sunroof > rides in. > > Now as a note when I did this on my 240D I took the sunroof out and messed > with it. BIG MISTAKE. Cost me several hundred dollars for my Indy to fix what > I bodgered... > >

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
with it. BIG MISTAKE. Cost me several hundred dollars for my Indy to fix what I bodgered... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:31:55 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> And then it started to open and close very slowly. > And now it won't move. So sad. You waited a bit long it seems. > Question: If I try to crank it shut manually in the trunk will I bolix > it up? Possibly. No real choice, however. > And: What is best course to fix this? You don't have a

[MBZ] Sunroof quit

2007-09-18 Thread Zoltan Finks
I guess I'm now a member of the sunroof trouble club. I noticed after buying the 87 190D that the sunroof didn't close fully one time. So I re-opened it and closed it and it thunked shut loudly. Since then, it sort of thunked loudly when shutting but closed reliably. Tonight, it closed almost fu