Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-13 Thread MICHAEL ESH
Andrew, I am not sure. His name is Tom. Carr Auto Electric His phone # is 231-788-0793 - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
Michael, Can he also fix a Bosch 1970 W111 wiper motor that doesn't shut off properly when in low-speed mode? I On 12/10/06, MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled the alternator and will have it tested tomorrow at a local shop. The guy runs a one man auto electric shop and will

[MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-10 Thread MICHAEL ESH
I pulled the alternator and will have it tested tomorrow at a local shop. The guy runs a one man auto electric shop and will even let you come back and watch the procedure. He will often rebuild them on the spot. New bushings, electrics, diodes, rectifiers, and all that stuff. Mike From

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
I did that with my 220D alternater. All I got back was the case all replacement guts. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
I cannot see how a bad diode/Rectifier, loose belt, bad fuse etc can keep the light on as you describe. A bad diode can. The circuit has already been adequately described, perhaps a bad ASCII schematic? D1 D7Winding A

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
perhaps a bad ASCII schematic? Wow, the word-wrap really hammered that! Correction is left as an exercise for the reader... As a hint, the three ()()()() windings are all the way out at the right. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-08 Thread Hans Neureiter
Jim; I appreciate this dissertation of the regulator circuitry which I obviously never fully understod. I am saving it. Blame it on the military. Unlike others who gained expertice in electronics and such, I spend a lot of time on KB duty and in the brigg for being non conforming, contrary and

[MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread MICHAEL ESH
Thanks to all for your input. I just checked a few more things. Battery takes a charge with charger. Car starts with good battery. Light goes off when car starts. Light comes on when car is shut off. Voltage at battery cables with car running and unhooked from battery is 11.1 at idle to 12.2

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Bad diode in alternator. At 06:10 PM 12/6/2006, you wrote: Thanks to all for your input. I just checked a few more things. Battery takes a charge with charger. Car starts with good battery. Light goes off when car starts. Light comes on when car is shut off. Voltage at battery cables with car

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread Michael Hall
Nope, def'n a loose belt. Go ahead and replace all the belts on the car, and while you're at it, any rubber hoses or other components. Then and only then will the light go out. Except you may also need new injectors, and a headlight switch. But first change the belts. Or - just change the

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Mike: Your diodes are fried. Please do not run the alternator without the battery in the circuit, it will, if working (and your isn't) go way overvoltage and fry things. Not good. This usually finishes off weak diodes, by the way. 12.1V will not charge the battery, you must get at least

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Michael Hall wrote: Nope, def'n a loose belt. Go ahead and replace all the belts on the car, and while you're at it, any rubber hoses or other components. Then and only then will the light go out. Except you may also need new injectors, and a headlight switch. But first change the belts.

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Battery takes a charge with charger. Car starts with good battery. Light goes off when car starts. Light comes on when car is shut off. Voltage at battery cables with car running and unhooked from battery [charger] is 11.1 at idle to 12.2 when revved up with no lights or fans. Bad diode, not

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
I cannot see how a bad diode/Rectifier, loose belt, bad fuse etc can keep the light on as you describe. If you read my reply , everything I predict happens, including the last part. The lamp gets ground from the I wire only, and only when the alternator charges. With the key of, do any other

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
should say:' is not charging' and only when the alternator 'charges'. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D

Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-07 Thread Michael Hall
On 12/7/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lamp gets ground from the I wire only, and only when the alternator charges. Incorrect, which is why your ign. switch idea is incorrect. As put by Peter Federick The alternator light is the indicator in a voltage balance circuit --